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Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 13:49:48 No.31649032 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31649142 >>31649487 >>31649515 >>31649584 >>31649610

>Hyper Cutter now also prevents self-inflicted Attack drops, e.g. from Superpower
With this change, would you use it on any of these mons over their other abilities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 14:08:17 No.31649142 Report

Quoted By: >>31649548

>>31649032
Kinglet only maybe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:06:19 No.31649438 Report

Quoted By: >>31649469 >>31649515

Probably, it'd help a little bit on Crabominable's case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:10:07 No.31649469 Report

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>>31649438
its crabominables best ability for vgc but still why would you use crabominable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:11:59 No.31649487 Report

Quoted By: >>31649515 >>31649584

>>31649032
Crabominable is the only one that benefits from this. Everything else has no attack dropping moves or just better abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:12:37 No.31649493 Report

Quoted By: >>31649515

>e.g. Superpower
Superpower is literally the only move capable of lowering the user's attack.
Maybe just make it so that all self-inflicted stat drops are nullified, but drops inflicted by others are not.

>Superpower
>Curse
>Hammer Arm
>Ice Hammer
>V Create
>Close Combat
>Dragon Ascent
>Shell Smash
>Draco Meteor + variants
>Clanging Scales
>Hyperspace Fury

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:16:13 No.31649515 Report

Quoted By: >>31649597

>>31649032
>kingler
Would appreciate but its still shit. Hardly an upgrade.
>pinsir
Already uses it or moxie, wont get any use from it.
>gligar
Never doesn't run immunity. Too valuable.
>Mawile
either running intimidate (with the mega) or sheer force (in PU) No value.
>trapinch
arena trap is god tier
>crawdaunt
adaptability is god tier
>gliscor
poison heal is god tier

>>31649438
>>31649487
crabominable still wants iron fist, only in VGC is attack drops relevant.

>>31649493
This is better but it doesn't really help anything that has it. Bar maybe curse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:20:47 No.31649548 Report

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>>31649142
>kinglet

I don't know if this was a typo but my sides

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:26:51 No.31649584 Report

Quoted By: >>31649636

>>31649032
Kingler now has a no drawback coverage move from a great attacking type and high BP. May push it to RU unless it's shit special bulk and mediocre speed pushes it back. Agility+SD sets seem predictable as your forced to run STAB+Fighting coverage. You can run Agility+3 attacks, but you'll get more easily walled). Still less splashable compared to Feralgatr.

Crabominable benefits the most from this. Superpower becomes a highly spammable STAB with zero drawbacks. IDK what Smogon tier it would end up(maybe NU by usage with RU and UU viability(stronger wallbreaker than Mammo at the cost of priority) but it may be a staple in VGC.
>>31649487
Kingler gets Superpower and can't make use of it's other abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:29:04 No.31649597 Report

Quoted By: >>31649654 >>31649672

>>31649515
Ok so what about this then:

Hyper cutter and all specific stat-protecting abilities (keen eye, big pecks) not only prevent stat lowering, but also boost the stat they protect by 20-30% to begin with. The abilities still don't prevent self-inflicted reductions or burn drops, just not to make it excessively OP

How good are kingler and the others with a free life orb boost now? worth running over their other abilities? can pinsir be of any value without its megastone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:30:47 No.31649610 Report

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>>31649032
who is next, diaper cutter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:34:59 No.31649636 Report

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>>31649584
Crabominable's problem isn't Intimidate, it's the fact that it's stupidly slow, frail and an ice type. As a fighting type, it is outclassed by Hariyama in VGC, and ice types aren't that common aside from A-Ninetales, which sees usage because of Aurora Veil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:38:41 No.31649654 Report

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>>31649597
That's just a straight up good ability in all cases then. They'd all use it or at least use it occasionally. Flat out outclasses iron fist on crabominable too.
Pretty good suggestion all around, it doesn't really break anything and most the pokemon with these abilities are shit anyway. Only thing I can think of that's moving to OU with it is +30% defence mandibuzz. Maybe gliscor with a much better offensive ability to choose from ala brelooms choice between technician and poison heal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:42:32 No.31649672 Report

Quoted By: >>31649676

>>31649597
>Keen Eye Pelipper for those high-accuracy Hurricanes
>Keen Eye Sableye for those perfectly-accurate WoWs
>Keen Eye Lycanroc can't miss with Stone Edge
This is overpowered

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:43:23 No.31649676 Report

Quoted By: >>31649681 >>31649694 >>31649705

>>31649672
>Keen Eye Pelipper for those high-accuracy Hurricanes
Are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:44:15 No.31649681 Report

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>>31649676
>Lycanroc
It's a joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:45:50 No.31649694 Report

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>>31649676
I don't like when my pokemons are getting wet, mkay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:47:27 No.31649705 Report

Quoted By: >>31649716

>>31649676
I think that anon was making a joke, considering that those 3 pokemon would never choose to run keen eye even if it offered a 30% accuracy boost, over drizzle (hurricane never misses in rain), prankster (pirority wow) and no guard respectively (nothing ever misses>>>30%acc boost).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:49:22 No.31649716 Report

Quoted By: >>31649758

>>31649705
Day lycanroc would run it though. And be pretty good with it, very accurate stone edges and fast unlike night dog which just has accuracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:51:29 No.31649731 Report

Quoted By: >>31649767

How has nobody mentioned Scarf Krabby for LC? Mudbray gets some use with less Attack and a lower speed tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:55:07 No.31649758 Report

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>>31649716
Well that's true, I was thinking only about midnight form

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 15:57:13 No.31649767 Report

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>>31649731
That's because mudbray is also balk as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 16:16:24 No.31649903 Report

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Make Hyper Cutter and Clear Body ignore attack reduction from Burn, then we have something.

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