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Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:19:52 No.31651468 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31651541 >>31651547 >>31651568 >>31651658

>extreme min-maxing
>ability that raises their stats even further, literally a better Moxie
>shills will defend this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:28:58 No.31651541 Report

Quoted By: >>31654007

>>31651468
Celesteela and Pheromosa are the only cancerous ones.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:29:35 No.31651547 Report

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>>31651468
Oh yeah cause Guzzlord is so threatening right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:31:14 No.31651568 Report

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>>31651468
it's a new way to look at Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:33:59 No.31651597 Report

Quoted By: >>31651601 >>31651780

honestly ubs arent even that min-maxed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:34:44 No.31651601 Report

Quoted By: >>31651742 >>31651754

>>31651597
>Xurkitree
>Kartana
>Pheromosa

Of course only one of these turned out to be cancer, but still

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:40:50 No.31651658 Report

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>>31651468
Extreme min-maxing is what makes them great

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:44:20 No.31651686 Report

Quoted By: >>31651739 >>31651812

someone fix guzzlord please

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:49:40 No.31651739 Report

Quoted By: >>31651790

>>31651686
Literally just give it reliable recovery. Maybe shift some attack into special attack but that might be overkill.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:50:00 No.31651742 Report

Quoted By: >>31651762 >>31651763

>>31651601
>higher Attack than Mega Fug
>Ferrothorn-tier physical wall
>faster than the Musketeers
Minmaxing is hilarious

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:51:30 No.31651754 Report

Quoted By: >>31651780

>>31651601
>Xukitree
>Base 83 speed
>Min-maxed

If they really wanted to min-max Xurk they'd give it 113 base speed instead of that abysmal stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:52:38 No.31651762 Report

Quoted By: >>31653770 >>31653801 >>31653806 >>31654117

>>31651742
>Hits like a pussy because it's highest stab is 90
>Not even Slugma used Ember but anything used HP fire and it's dead

All the UB despite being seemingly broken at first glance all have one critical flaw that makes them perfectly manageable and balanced. This is how you design a competitively good Pokemon.

Celesteela is the only one I'd say has no real flaw and Guzzlord is just plain shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:52:39 No.31651763 Report

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>>31651742
>NFE fire type shitmon used low BP special fire move!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:53:50 No.31651780 Report

Quoted By: >>31651821 >>31651822

>>31651597
Yes they are.

>>31651754
Xurkitree learns the most retarded Z-Move on the game and it has Tailglow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:54:59 No.31651790 Report

Quoted By: >>31651809

>>31651739
I like Guzzlord better as a special attacker. Beast Boost Draco Meteors are nice.

I don't understand why they didn't give it Slack Off or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:56:48 No.31651809 Report

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>>31651790
Guzzlord would prefer 50 of his HP to go to his defenses first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:56:58 No.31651812 Report

Quoted By: >>31653723 >>31654139

>>31651686
Beast Boost now affects HP. Now that Zygarde has set the precedence for raising max HP mid-battle, I see no reason not to introduce HP boosts for a handful of shitmons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:57:23 No.31651821 Report

Quoted By: >>31651951 >>31652042

>>31651780
>Xurkitree learns the most retarded Z-Move on the game
Since when does Xurkitree learn Geomancy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 19:57:33 No.31651822 Report

Quoted By: >>31651951

>>31651780
>Xurkitree is broken is you let him set-up for 2 turns!
Sound like you are the problem if you are retarded enough to give it 2 turns to do whatever it fucking wants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 20:10:57 No.31651951 Report

Quoted By: >>31652042

>>31651821
That charge turn though.

>>31651822
Ah, I see you're one of those retards who shitposts on 4chan all the time and barely actually play the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 20:17:57 No.31652042 Report

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>>31651821
>>31651951
to be fair, xerneas has retarded bulk that allows it to stand still for 2 turns anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 22:59:10 No.31653723 Report

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>>31651812
he would still have to get kills and good luck with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:04:27 No.31653770 Report

Quoted By: >>31653782

>>31651762
>Togedemaru used Nuzzle!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:05:30 No.31653782 Report

Quoted By: >>31653921

>>31653770
celesteela doesn't even have a x4 electric weakness

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:07:48 No.31653801 Report

Quoted By: >>31653933

>>31651762
>Celesteela is the only one I'd say has no real flaw
No recovery, though leech seed is okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:08:27 No.31653806 Report

Quoted By: >>31653862

>>31651762
This, and also that Grass/Steel is pretty shit offensively. It isn't bad enough that its strongest STAB is a mere 90 BP move, but the other STAB is 70

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:11:11 No.31653828 Report

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Seriously though
Pheromosa is so stupid people are running Alola Marowak, a pokemon with shit stats everywhere except Thick Club-boosted Attack pretty much only to wall it. Lightning Rod helps it wall Tapu Koko too but honestly, if it weren't for Pheromosa, Alowak wouldn't be near OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:14:45 No.31653862 Report

Quoted By: >>31653877

>>31653806
It isn't grass steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:16:42 No.31653877 Report

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>>31653862
he's talking about kartana, referring to leaf blade and smart strike being its only stabs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:21:22 No.31653921 Report

Quoted By: >>31653939

>>31653782
Huh, I could've sworn Steel was weak to Electric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:22:17 No.31653933 Report

Quoted By: >>31653949 >>31653988

>>31653801
>they give it Giga Drain via tutor

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:22:55 No.31653939 Report

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>>31653921
it's not. If it wasn't magnezone wouldn't be one of the few pokemon that still needs to carry hidden power

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:23:57 No.31653949 Report

Quoted By: >>31653955

>>31653933
Celesteela has giga drain as a level up, dumbo. level 31

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:24:32 No.31653955 Report

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>>31653949
Ignore the derp moment then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:28:14 No.31653988 Report

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>>31653933
It already has giga drain, they should give it synthesis

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:30:29 No.31654007 Report

Quoted By: >>31654181

>>31651541
I only play randoms on Showdown, every single time I've encountered/used Celesteela it died quickly. Not even with Assault Vest and Autotomize and a Beast Boost. It's not cancerous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:41:25 No.31654117 Report

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>>31651762
pls no bully Kartana it got me to floor 110 of the Tree

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:44:43 No.31654139 Report

Quoted By: >>31654147

>>31651812
>kill your own teammates in doubles for hp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:45:30 No.31654147 Report

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>>31654139
that's kind of fitting for a dark type

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Feb 2017 23:48:22 No.31654181 Report

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>>31654007
t. randoms only player

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