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Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 08:39:10 No.31683525 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31683565 >>31683582 >>31684088 >>31684155 >>31684591 >>31684844 >>31684869 >>31685113 >>31685443 >>31685754

>always liked marowak and magnezone. Lol you have shit taste kek XD

>Gen 7 comes out lol you only like it cause it's good

No, fuck you stupid hipsters.

Sorry for my bad English

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Sorry for my bad English Mon 06 Feb 2017 08:45:05 No.31683550 Report

Quoted By: >>31684118

I liked her before she had speed boost

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 08:45:58 No.31683558 Report

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>tfw you'll never know that feel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 08:47:30 No.31683565 Report

Quoted By: >>31683572

>>31683525
Magnezone has always been good though

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 08:47:50 No.31683568 Report

Quoted By: >>31684118

I loved her before contrary was available

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 08:49:11 No.31683572 Report

Quoted By: >>31683891 >>31683926

>>31683565
I'm not going to disagree with you. But it sure as hell wasn't as popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 08:51:52 No.31683582 Report

Quoted By: >>31683647

>>31683525
Magnezone was good long before gen 7 though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 09:05:32 No.31683647 Report

Quoted By: >>31683891 >>31684487

>>31683582
I'm not saying it wasn't or isn't I'm saying you get people that were shitting on it now creaming their jeans over it while being hypocrites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 10:03:49 No.31683891 Report

Quoted By: >>31684013

>>31683572
>>31683647
http://www.smogon.com/dex/dp/pokemon/magnezone/
>Tier: OU
http://www.smogon.com/dex/bw/pokemon/magnezone/
>Tier: OU
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/magnezone/
>Tier: OU
http://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/magnezone/
>Tier: OU
And just for good measure
http://www.smogon.com/dex/rs/pokemon/magneton/
>Tier: OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 10:11:50 No.31683926 Report

Quoted By: >>31684013

>>31683572
>OU since introduction
>OVER USED since introduction
>sure as hell wasn't popular
Yeah, alright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 10:41:55 No.31684013 Report

Quoted By: >>31684417

>>31683891
>>31683926
Completely missing the point, just get out retard.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 11:00:43 No.31684088 Report

Quoted By: >>31684149 >>31684806

>>31683525
>people mostly prefered Arcanine over Ninetales
>alolan Ninetales comes out
>lol you like it because it's a cute waifu desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 11:07:59 No.31684118 Report

Quoted By: >>31684123 >>31686383 >>31686613

>>31683550
>>31683568
>her
>87.5% chance at penis
Kill yourselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 11:09:28 No.31684123 Report

Quoted By: >>31684660

>>31684118
But a penis doesn't mean they are of the male gender :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 11:15:12 No.31684149 Report

Quoted By: >>31684376

>>31684088
I know that feel too, I always liked ninetales over fire doggo. Even got a shiny (non alolan) ninetales.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 11:17:56 No.31684155 Report

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>>31683525
iktf
>brotrio is cancer now with a minor buff
>still has shit base stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 11:20:50 No.31684173 Report

Quoted By: >>31684197 >>31684404

>only fire type move on Magnezone is STILL Hidden Power Fire
I've been breeding Magnemites, breeded some perfect IVs and a shiny, but I gotta give up and just ask how you get Hidden Power Fire on these things. Do I just keep going trying to luck it? I'm using a 6 IV Ditto parent

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 11:24:23 No.31684197 Report

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>>31684173
Op here.

I had the same dilemma when I was breeding for a shiny magnemite, Hp fire is an absolute pain in the ass, low chance to get a shiny with the perfect HP too. My magnezone came out with hp dragon or some shit but luckily got its hidden ability. You could always run metal sound in place of Hp.fire and invest in bulk turning zone into a powerfull wallbreaker at the very least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 12:02:50 No.31684376 Report

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>>31684149
I got both shiny Ninetales. The only Pokemon I cared enough to shiny hunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 12:09:20 No.31684404 Report

Quoted By: >>31684414

>>31684173
If you're using a hacked Ditto parent you might as well go all the way and hack a perfect Magnezone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 12:11:50 No.31684414 Report

Quoted By: >>31685831

>>31684404
but that's work. The Ditto was just a freebe giveaway here

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 12:12:40 No.31684417 Report

Quoted By: >>31684487 >>31684830

>>31684013
Then what is the point? Please explain it to me because it seems like you're saying it used to not be popular even though it's always been popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 12:29:16 No.31684487 Report

Quoted By: >>31684735 >>31684873

>>31684417
No it hasn't always been popular, people rarely used it in competitive exept for being a niche counter to scizor.

OU doesn't literally mean over used it's just a tier system like S A B C and D teir it's in OU because it's too powerful to be in the lower tiers. There's other mons like starmie and tangrowth that barely get used as well. Refer to this post >>31683647

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 12:48:10 No.31684591 Report

Quoted By: >>31684651

>>31683525
Marowak was legitimately my favorite Pokémon for many years. This gen, Cubone was my first ever shiny, so Alolan Marowak is now also one of my favorite Pokémon.

Life's good that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 12:57:46 No.31684651 Report

Quoted By: >>31684931

>>31684591
Likewise, I bred a shiny 5 IV cubone in oras, evolved it into regular marowak then transferred to SM, stab bonemerang off 160 attack after thick club one shots everything.

Klinklang Guy

Klinklang Guy Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:00:21 No.31684660 Report

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>>31684123
Ever considered hermaphrodites?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:12:50 No.31684735 Report

Quoted By: >>31684750

>>31684487
>OU doesn't literally mean over used it's just a tier system like S A B C and D teir it's in OU because it's too powerful to be in the lower tiers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:17:59 No.31684750 Report

Quoted By: >>31684794

>>31684735
Ok, prove me wrong then dipshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:32:58 No.31684794 Report

Quoted By: >>31684813 >>31684826

>>31684750
http://www.smogon.com/xyhub/tiers
>Tiers are Smogon's way of categorizing Pokémon based on usage. Pokémon can be banned from the tier or move up to higher tier from their usage. Typically, they are updated after three months of usage statistics from Smogon's simulator, Pokémon Showdown. The standard tiers that are endorsed by Smogon in Gen VI are Ubers, OverUsed (OU), UnderUsed (UU), RarelyUsed (RU), NeverUsed (NU), PU, Little Cup (LC), and Doubles.
>UnderUsed, or UU, is the tier that contains all of the Pokémon that are just short of OU in terms of the required usage amount, which equates to a 50% chance of encountering the Pokémon in OU in 20 battles. These Pokémon can still be used in OU, and a lot of them are actually quite powerful as well, but they simply aren't used enough for them to change their tier placement.
>RarelyUsed, or RU, is the tier that contains all of the Pokémon that are just short of UU in terms of the required usage amount, which equates to a 50% chance of encountering the Pokémon in UU in 20 battles. These Pokémon can still be used in UU, and a lot of them are actually quite powerful as well, but they simply aren't used enough for them to change their tier placement.
>NeverUsed, or NU, is the tier that contains all of the Pokémon that are just short of RU in terms of the required usage amount, which equates to a 50% chance of encountering the Pokémon in RU in 20 battles. These Pokémon can still be used in RU, and a lot of them are actually quite powerful as well, but they simply aren't used enough for them to change their tier placement.
etc.
The only tier that works the way you said is Ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:37:43 No.31684806 Report

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>>31684088
>implying that people didn't want to fuck Ninetales from the start

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:38:25 No.31684813 Report

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>>31684794
And AG, I guess.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:42:51 No.31684826 Report

Quoted By: >>31684832 >>31684841

>>31684794
>the only tier that works the way you said is ubers.
Nice copy paste btw, and holy shit my post was talking about magnezone's usage in OU, did you forget to read the whole post? And just took half of it to start a pointless argument? Fuck off you sperg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:44:10 No.31684830 Report

Quoted By: >>31685042

>>31684417
A lot of people who aren't as into the competitive scene think it's ugly, I know plenty of people who don't use it because they don't like how it looks, that it looks to different from Magneton.
While the guy you responded to is a bit of an egg, he's right. It recently made it on to favorites lists because of how accessible and good it is in SM,and people who have liked it for a long time get shit on for having good pokemon as favorites by contrarian hipsters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:45:20 No.31684832 Report

Quoted By: >>31684866

>>31684826
>holy shit my post was talking about magnezone's usage in OU
Which has always been relatively high because if it wasn't it would drop to UU or lower. Just because healthy meta space princess has made it more common doesn't mean that it wasn't common before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:47:10 No.31684841 Report

Quoted By: >>31684866

>>31684826
>>31684826
Anon, if it was too good for UU but didn't have the usage to make it to OU, it'd be BL, not OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:47:25 No.31684844 Report

Quoted By: >>31684861 >>31684866

>>31683525

But it is LESS shameful to admit to liking magnezone because it is good, as opposed to admitting to always liking magnezone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:50:56 No.31684861 Report

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>>31684844
Wait, why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:52:22 No.31684866 Report

Quoted By: >>31684929

>>31684832
>>31684841
Right.. because so many teams back in gen 6 had magnezone as a staple. I don't care what you say I played ou on showdown and on the ds. Magnezone was a rare thing to see period, stop trying to lie to make yourself look better fucking hipsters.
>>31684844
Literally what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:53:00 No.31684869 Report

Quoted By: >>31684889

>>31683525
>always loved Ninetales and Exeggutor
>always loved Muk
>used them in all on my Leafgreen team
>everybody just assumes I like them cause they're popular now
I'm just happy my bros got cooler new forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:53:34 No.31684873 Report

Quoted By: >>31684896

>>31684487
>exept for being a niche counter to scizor.
I'd also like to address this bit while I'm at it.
Magnezone traps and removes a lot of things, not just Scizor. Although it does remove Scizor, it does and has always done the same to Skarmory, Ferrothorn, Jirachi, Forretress, Celesteela in gen 7, and while it's admittedly extremely rare, some HP ground variants can even remove Heatran.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:55:03 No.31684889 Report

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>>31684869
Look out dude here come the random people spouting bullshit technicalities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 13:55:35 No.31684896 Report

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>>31684873
Magnezone has always been useful and widely used. This thread is full of people who want to feel special for liking a dope magnet UFO that has always been popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:00:03 No.31684929 Report

Quoted By: >>31684972

>>31684866
>Right.. because so many teams back in gen 6 had magnezone as a staple
I'm looking at the April 2015 stats because that's the first one that popped up when I searched, but
>| 29 | Magnezone | 6.545% |
i.e. About one in every 15 teams had a Magnezone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:00:35 No.31684931 Report

Quoted By: >>31685007

>>31684651
marowak has been my #2 since gen 5, before it was #1. And even I must admit regular marowak is bad. Sure it hits hard but it always dies first. A-Marowak is a good change, cool design and dope typing and abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:03:00 No.31684946 Report

Quoted By: >>31685014

I've been using Kangaskhan competitively since DP because it's one of my favorites. Imagine how I feel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:07:42 No.31684972 Report

Quoted By: >>31685004

>>31684929
Right. And that's rougly 7-9 out of 100 teams, doesn't disprove my point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:14:33 No.31685004 Report

Quoted By: >>31685029

>>31684972
>6.545%
>that's rougly 7-9 out of 100 teams
That aside.
When you consider that there's 47 pokemon in OU alone not counting megas or alternate forms, 6.545 out of 100.is pretty respectable usage unless you think le 44% flying memelion is the standard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:15:00 No.31685007 Report

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>>31684931
Alolan marowak is better, I agree, I use the regular one for nastalgia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:16:34 No.31685014 Report

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>>31684946
If it wasn't for Seismic Toss, it might be OU this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:18:37 No.31685029 Report

Quoted By: >>31685056

>>31685004
What's you point dude? The satistics prove it wasn't used much, playing actual ou in gen 6 proved it wasn't used much either.

>it wasn't used that much but that doesn't mean it wasn't used that much!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:20:57 No.31685042 Report

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>>31684830
>Magnezone is often considered one of the better cross gens from Gen 4
I'm starting to think you were just baiting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:22:54 No.31685056 Report

Quoted By: >>31685080

>>31685029
>The satistics prove it wasn't used much
No, actually, they prove the opposite because 6.545% is by no means uncommon even by OU standards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:26:59 No.31685080 Report

Quoted By: >>31685102 >>31686132

>>31685056
You know what? Believe what you want to believe. I'm done arguing with you dumbasses, you will literally try to pick apart every little fucking thing to try to make yourself look better, won't listen to reason, and even deny facts.

>6.5 is high usage!

No it isn't, but keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:31:12 No.31685102 Report

Quoted By: >>31685128

>>31685080
Tell me then, what's the cutoff for what you would consider to be "high usage?" What percent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:33:30 No.31685113 Report

Quoted By: >>31685292

>>31683525
if you like marowak or magnezone you have shit taste, no matter if its good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:35:51 No.31685128 Report

Quoted By: >>31685159 >>31685198

>>31685102
Whatever percent your mother is faggot.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:41:12 No.31685159 Report

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>>31685128
Sure.
Let's make it easier then.
> | 13 | Magnezone | 10.74723% |
That narrows it down somewhat. It's gotta be somewhere between 6.5% and 10.7% considering that you think Magnezone is super-popular now.
I just want to know where so I can understand you better, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:47:53 No.31685198 Report

Quoted By: >>31685220

>>31685128
So 0% because she dead as hell

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:50:35 No.31685220 Report

Quoted By: >>31685262

>>31685198
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:56:14 No.31685262 Report

Quoted By:

>>31685220
>le ebin future meme
>>/r/eddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 15:02:19 No.31685292 Report

Quoted By:

>>31685113
(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 15:25:53 No.31685443 Report

Quoted By:

>>31683525
Magnezone has always been good at it's job

Drag2mag was the best thing in gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 16:09:45 No.31685754 Report

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>>31683525
Wasn't Marowak really good in Gen 2?

>Stall and Snorlax: The Meta
But still, SM wasn't Marowak's first game where it was good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 16:19:32 No.31685831 Report

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>>31684414
>injecting takes more work than breeding
are u autistic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 16:58:24 No.31686132 Report

Quoted By: >>31686245

>>31685080
Having that usage, by definition it is overused which means popular, are you retarded or is it that you simply don't comprehend statistics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 17:13:11 No.31686245 Report

Quoted By: >>31686308

>>31686132
I think his point was that it's not as overused as other overused mons like Landorus and Heatran. Which is true I guess but it's not really proof of Magnezone being unpopular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 17:19:21 No.31686308 Report

Quoted By: >>31686349

>>31686245
It still is more popular than the great majority of mons, his point is retarded, literally:
>Silver isn't a precious metal because Gold is sold for more money
Levels of retardation

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 17:22:52 No.31686349 Report

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>>31686308
That's what I was trying to say
>magnezone is popular now, but it hasn't always been popular
>yes it has, it's been OU every gen since its inception
>just because it's OU doesn't mean its popular
>yes it does, that's literally what OU means
>but there are other OU mons that are used more than it
>that's true, but that doesn't mean it's unpopular
>yes it does
In hindsight it was just goalpost moving and I shouldn't have fed into it, but it's too late now.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 17:26:36 No.31686383 Report

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>>31684118
>he didn't reroll for female starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Feb 2017 17:51:49 No.31686613 Report

Quoted By:

>>31684118
You may have autism

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