>>31718808it's over 50% usage at 0, 1500, 1695, and 1825 alike
>>31718804tapu fini isn't the only one that affects sleep and tapu koko hits a lot harder than fini. and you can't pretend priority is half the threat it used to be.
>>31718813i like the gen 7 mons better than the gen 5 mons, but that doesn't mean they're healthy for the meta. all they need is a slight nerf to terrain though, not a total rework so i guess in that sense they're better. thank goodness for their learnsets.
>>31718825that looks nice but i'd love a terrain nerf first to roughly the effect of
>>31718682>>31718838they're rarely out for 8 turns and you don't want to (for instance) prevent priority moves by your team once lele is off the field, so 5 turns can be better (and if you use terrain extender you can't use a scarf, obviously). your point does NOT mean terrains aren't the problem, it means you aren't thinking about the opportunity cost of using terrain extender.
