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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 15:25:07 No.31743337 View View Reply Original Report

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Today we celebrate six months of the beginning of the Kalos League finals. Let's reflect on this and ask ourselves:

Did anyone actually believe for a second that Ash would win the league?

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 15:26:53 No.31743346 Report

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Nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 15:28:34 No.31743366 Report

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Yes.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 15:33:40 No.31743400 Report

Quoted By: >>31743447

>>31743337
>Did anyone actually believe for a second that Ash would win the league?
I didn't, but watching those who did it getting BURASTO BAAN was amazing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 15:34:57 No.31743409 Report

Quoted By: >>31744383

>>31743337
Yes. And I can't say I blame them for thinking so. He had, for the first time, a team of all fully evolved Pokemon. He had an asspull Greninja that pretty much killed everything except Zard and Diantha's Gardevoir. In the League, this Greninja actually one-shot an Altaria with a 20BP NVE move. Then went on to fight a Mega Scepile, taking many hits from Leaf Storm and still coming out fine, cut through Frenzy Plant and defeated that Sceptile with a 4x NVE move and an Ariel Ace. He was the strongest he's ever been, and thus he made it to the finals.

What people failed to see was that Alan and his Zard were even more ridiculous. I remember them overpowering a Zygarde, for fucks sake. He even went toe-to-toe with it even without Mega Evolving.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 15:42:49 No.31743447 Report

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>>31743400
I watched expecting nothing.

When I saw Greninja down I knew that the shitstorm would be glorious. Based Alan and LIZARDON

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 15:44:44 No.31743454 Report

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>>31743337
I hope that they replay the entire anime in short till X/Y in the 20th movie. I just want to see Ash lose the league 6 times in row... IN HIGH QUALITY

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 15:44:50 No.31743455 Report

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>>31743337
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 15:48:20 No.31743475 Report

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https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/27870128

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 15:54:51 No.31743507 Report

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>>31743337

6... months...

ok I'm out... holy fuck...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 16:13:41 No.31743627 Report

Quoted By: >>31743643 >>31743653 >>31743749 >>31744091 >>31744129 >>31744145 >>31744545 >>31747350

>first fully evolved team
>special Greninja video showing it use a huge orange mega shuriken
>title is "Kalos league victory! Ash's ultimate match"
>Ash ALWAYS wins against a rival in the league he has lost to several times before. This has been the case since episode 1.
>the next game confirmes not having gyms (it wasn't confirmed it still had a league yet) so people thought this would be the last league at least for a while
>Extremely OP pokemon able go fuck over pretty much anything up to Champion mega ace tier
>we had no idea if he would win or lose before the episode aired which was the first time that ever happening since the result is always spoiled by new titles or summaries. TPC was hiding the result at all cost.
>Alan and Mega Charizard X was built up as Ash and Greninja's ultimate goal to finnish of Greninja's arch

Literally the only thing that said he would lose was the status que that he always lose. Everything else pointed to him winning. It wasn't retarded at all to think the he would win with everything pointing to it. Of course TPC greed and higher ups wanting to maintain status que won in the end as always.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 16:15:44 No.31743643 Report

Quoted By: >>31743673

>>31743627
You seem kinda mad anon. Are you okay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 16:16:41 No.31743653 Report

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>>31743627
The writers wanted him to win so they set it all up like that. Their bosses wouldn't let them actually make Ash win so he had to lose. If it were up to the writer Ash would've won and it would've made more sense. But they didn't want their bosses ruin their initial plans so they kept it like they wanted but still made him lose which is why after all that hype it was kind of a letdown

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 16:18:36 No.31743673 Report

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>>31743643
>writes a post explaning why people thought he would win
>thinks I'm mad because of this

?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 16:25:20 No.31743749 Report

Quoted By: >>31743763 >>31743791

>>31743627

but...he could win and go to alola for some vacations+training...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 16:27:01 No.31743763 Report

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>>31743749
it wouldn't have make sense though. Why wouldn't he bring his team with which he won the league, after all they did all the work. And why would he go to school in the first place when he is a League champion. He should be getting ready to face the Kalos E4 instead. It wouldn't have made sense continuity wise.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 16:27:40 No.31743768 Report

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>>31743475
SO MUCH HYPE!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 16:30:04 No.31743791 Report

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>>31743749
>stuttering meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 16:56:39 No.31744011 Report

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>>31743337
I was expecting a draw but at the end of XYZ he gives Alan the trophy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 16:57:39 No.31744026 Report

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At first I didn't, but then news about Sun and Moon ditching gyms came about and it seemed like a good opportunity for them to finally let him win it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 16:58:51 No.31744036 Report

Quoted By: >>31744573

>>31743337
pic related why.

Fuck Alanfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 16:59:00 No.31744038 Report

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Should've had it at a draw or have Flare interrupt the battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:05:26 No.31744091 Report

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>>31743627
Literally the only thing they needed to do was to make Ash win against Alan once prior to the league match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:05:41 No.31744094 Report

Quoted By: >>31744113 >>31744180 >>31744330

>>31743337
If anything, I'm ecstatic about Ash losing this time. Why? Ash-Greninja that's why. I've never hated a pokemon more in my life. Normal Greninja I can tolerate but Ash-Greninja I absolutely loathe.

In other words, I'm happy that some special snowflake bullshit got btfo'd by an actual mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:07:36 No.31744113 Report

Quoted By: >>31744732 >>31747136

>>31744094
>I'm an autistic retard hating a cartoon frog

You could have just written that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:09:05 No.31744129 Report

Quoted By: >>31745160

>>31743627
>status que

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:10:04 No.31744145 Report

Quoted By: >>31744383 >>31744484 >>31749256

>>31743627
They were hyping Alan up the whole time, and just to avoid doing another Tobias, they even showed how strong he was by giving him his own Specials. This guy at beginning of the tournament ONE SHOT a Zard Y with a NVE Flamethrower. Zard Y being a Mega Evolved Pokemon, which the anime treated like a really big deal, with good Special bulk. Before that, it one shot an E4's Pokemon.

Ash was really strong this season. That's why he made to the finals, something he never achieved before. Alan, though, was much stronger. There's no bullshit involved here. They constantly went out of their way to show just how strong Alan was. Out of all of Ash's League battles, this was the most fair one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:12:32 No.31744180 Report

Quoted By: >>31744330

>>31744094
This. I love Greninja but Ash-Greninja is the dumbest shit the anime has put out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:13:08 No.31744186 Report

Quoted By: >>31744282

I wasn't really expecting Ash to win, but I was at least expecting the loss to look reasonable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:21:22 No.31744282 Report

Quoted By: >>31744460

>>31744186
But it did? More than any other league loss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:23:49 No.31744303 Report

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I was hoping he'd win, I was disappointed, but I'm over it and can find humor in it now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:25:59 No.31744330 Report

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>>31744094
>>31744180
Except that the very reason we got Ash-Greninja forced in the games was so Ash could use him. If he doesn't win, then what the fuck was the point of having this huge anime reference in the games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:26:58 No.31744343 Report

Quoted By: >>31744460

>>31743337
No, I did not expect him to win. But the the fact that they never explained the giant orange shuriken is bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:27:22 No.31744347 Report

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Considering the title and previews deliberately misled people into thinking he would, it's not surprising that many did

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:32:34 No.31744383 Report

Quoted By: >>31744535 >>31744564

>>31743409
>>31744145
>What people failed to see was that Alan and his Zard were even more ridiculous.
This is my only problem with ash losing the league.
Alan is waaaay too good, to the point that it's kinda bullshit how strong his charizard is.
He has never lost a battle and the only time he tasted defeat was when he fuck himself in the ass by doing too much of a good job helping the villain without knowing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:38:42 No.31744460 Report

Quoted By: >>31744536

>>31744282
>But it did? More than any other league loss.
Maybe more than others, but it's still kinda bullshit how a Charizard that was already weakened by taking hits in a previous fight, somehow manage to tank a huge fucking water attack and then won using a NVE attack.

>>31744343
The giant orange shuriken was so stupid, it was never brought back and all it did was to look cool, even though it did nothing at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:40:21 No.31744484 Report

Quoted By: >>31744522

>>31744145
What was bullshit about Alan was they way, around 10 episodes prior to the league, he explicitly says he is NOT competing in the league. Then, about 2 episodes before the league, he is shown collecting his eigth badge, and shows up at the league . He collects 8 badges in, at most, half a dozen episodes.

The asspull isnt him winning the league. the asspull is him being there at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:40:47 No.31744487 Report

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>>31743337
A lot of people had high hopes he would win. They wanted to see him win, which led to them expecting him to win.
That's understandable, consider they had been watching for actual years. Some might even have been watching for longer than some people here have been alive.

Personally speaking, I don't have any attachment to Ash, and thus didn't care about it. In fact, I got, and am still getting, more enjoyment from his loss. If he had won, I doubt it would've been nearly as "fun".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:43:18 No.31744522 Report

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>>31744484
Why? He's strong, so he can win Gym Battles. He has access to Pokemon that can allow him travel faster. Even Lysandre would happily get him around, since in the League, he could collect a lot Mega Energy for him.

To me, at least, it doesn't seem as bullshity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:44:24 No.31744530 Report

Quoted By: >>31744626

If he hadn't lost to Alan, they would have had him lose to Shota. As soon as SM was confirmed, his fate was sealed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:44:59 No.31744535 Report

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>>31744383
He lost Siegbold too

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:45:08 No.31744536 Report

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>>31744460
>using a NVE attack
He did more than that. Even if it was just BURASUTO, it would still be a 75 BP STAB coming from a Pokemon clearly much higher level than Greninja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:46:11 No.31744545 Report

Quoted By: >>31745160

>>31743627
>status que

Remember O is not next to E on the board, thus it was not a mistake but that this faggot thinks that is actually how you spell it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:47:20 No.31744564 Report

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>>31744383
That's understandable, I guess.

Alan was strong. Really strong. That was Alan's gimmick. His character. Personally, I liked that. I like seeing ridiculously strong characters. It's one of the reason I love characters like Shizuo or Claire, from Durarara and Baccano respectively. While Alan's personality was not nearly as likeable, I liked the Pokemon he used, so that made up for it.

This is just a case of to each their own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:48:11 No.31744573 Report

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>>31744036
Fucking Ash-pandering faggot

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:50:24 No.31744592 Report

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>>31743337
I hadn't even watched pokemon anime since mid-way through Johto and I had still heard about the Kalos loss and went "oh, come the fuck on! Really?"

of course, I was also torn between my wish they would move on from Ash and my dislike of Greninja for stealing all the attention from glorious Grass Warrior and glorious fox wizard.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:52:53 No.31744619 Report

Quoted By: >>31744646

Reminder that had it been a no-bullshit, in-game battle between those two teams, Alan would win EASILY. The moveset Ash was running on his Greninja was shit and wouldn't do anything to Zard.

Ash stood a chance because of anime bullshit. If you dislike bullshit, dislike all bullshit. Calling Alan's win bad because it was "bullshit" is just hypocritical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:53:34 No.31744626 Report

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>>31744530
>If he hadn't lost to Alan, they would have had him lose to Shota.
It would have been fucking cool if he would've won against Alan and lose to Shota, Alan was ash's rival and ash was shota's rival.
Plus Shota was shown as a fucking strong and smart trainer that trained and studied to defeat Ash.
In the end all i got from the league was ''Don't try to be better than someone else because no matter how hard you try, you're not gonna make it.''

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:55:35 No.31744646 Report

Quoted By: >>31744692

>>31744619
>Alan has 3 pokemon 4x weak to fighting
>Hawlucha gets a single KO
JUST

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:57:16 No.31744663 Report

Quoted By: >>31744692 >>31745243

>Alan has 3 pokemon 4x weak to fighting
>Hawlucha gets a single KO
JUST

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 17:59:52 No.31744692 Report

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>>31744646
>>31744663
>Ash has 3 Pokemon weak to Ice
>Weavile gets a single KO
JUST

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 18:03:43 No.31744732 Report

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>>31744113
>person don't like thing but i like thing
>this cannot be possible
>they must be an autism
I fucking love this meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 18:39:59 No.31745160 Report

Quoted By: >>31745260

>>31744129
>>31744545
English was the third language I learned so of course it isn't fucking perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 18:45:40 No.31745243 Report

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>>31744663
It was smart by Alan to shut down Hawlucha's speed with Thunder Wave. If that HJK didn't fucking miss Ash would have had a full health Goodra and Greninja vs a damaged Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 18:46:45 No.31745260 Report

Quoted By: >>31745274

>>31745160
But it isn't English.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 18:48:00 No.31745274 Report

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>>31745260
What's the point in trying to be a smart ass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 18:51:47 No.31745322 Report

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Honestly, I did. I actually said "Let's give it a try" when I saw how different ash this time.
With that being said... 6 months, I don't know you but it hurts sometimes for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 18:53:12 No.31745337 Report

Quoted By: >>31745384

Serena > the League

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 18:57:12 No.31745384 Report

Quoted By: >>31745390 >>31745399 >>31745455 >>31745467

>>31745337
The League >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHIT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Serena

The League was fun to watch. The battles were well animated and the soundtrack was hype as fuck. Even if people knew Ash was going to lose, they were excited to see how it will happen. Serena, though, was shit. There was nothing likeable about her. Her dancing shit was boring as fuck. Even her cheering during the League was just shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 18:57:51 No.31745390 Report

Quoted By: >>31745395

>>31745384
t. Misty

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 18:58:30 No.31745395 Report

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>>31745390
What does this have to do with Misty?

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 18:58:48 No.31745399 Report

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>>31745384
y-you tell em

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 19:02:28 No.31745455 Report

Quoted By: >>31745503

>>31745384
Let's trigger you some more, fag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 19:03:44 No.31745467 Report

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>>31745384
Nah.
There are many league, but only one Serena.

The staff made the right choice.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 19:06:50 No.31745503 Report

Quoted By: >>31747422

>>31745455
Need help triggering me? Serena was shit, that is a fact. Everyone realizes this, not just Mistyfags. I actually do like the ship, because it pairs a shit character with another shit character.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 20:18:31 No.31746349 Report

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>>31743337
I personally didn't. I admit I became less sure when I heard Ash was going to the finals, but sure enough he jobbed in the end like he always does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 20:31:24 No.31746483 Report

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>>31743337
I didn't and do not see how others could be dumb enough to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 21:30:45 No.31747136 Report

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>>31744113
Simmer down there friendo. I said I hate ASH-Greninja specifically. Regular Greninja I'm ok with and even like a little, but Ash-Greninja was just some top shelf level bullshit.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 21:52:19 No.31747350 Report

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>>31743627

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 21:58:36 No.31747422 Report

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>>31745503
Those two look really cute together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 22:34:56 No.31747772 Report

Quoted By: >>31748140

>goodra did literally nothing of relevance
>so did noivern
>pikachu slaughters two pseudos.
The whole match was just shitshow of bad writing.
Somebody was very angry while writing it

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 22:48:17 No.31747901 Report

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>>31743337
GF must have been laughing their asses off at all the salty Ashfags who dumped all their common sense after seeing the Shota fight

Trolling at its finest

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 22:53:08 No.31747955 Report

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Goddammit I am still salty over this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 11 Feb 2017 23:09:59 No.31748140 Report

Quoted By: >>31748818

>>31747772
>Goodra's only claim to fame is two battles where it mostly just stood there and did nothing but sponge attacks, and even then only won by the skin of it's teeth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Feb 2017 00:16:16 No.31748818 Report

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>>31748140
>writers either were so lazy or so tired of this shit they let that slip
>ywf Ash could have pulled Cameron^2 and fight with 4 mons and outcome would be literally the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Feb 2017 00:24:46 No.31748906 Report

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The anime is shit and so is Ash. This is a fact and not my opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Feb 2017 00:28:26 No.31748952 Report

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So are you guys ready for alola leaug, were ash's whole team gets sweated completely by lana's primarena, especially his battle bond decidueye. then the next leaug meme will be hydro canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Feb 2017 00:48:27 No.31749256 Report

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>>31744145
Late, but the only thing that felt like BS looking back is Alan's Bisharp actually hitting a Pokemon a second time to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Feb 2017 00:53:19 No.31749330 Report

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I wanted Ash to win just because it's about fucking time we had a new protagonist. I don't understand how there can still be people who aren't totally done with him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Feb 2017 01:01:16 No.31749446 Report

Quoted By: >>31750564

>Implying Sun And Moon Anime will be different from the game

This is about Lillie.
First we get to know her character, next she over comes her fears of touching pokemon. Then we watch her defeat the trail captains and become a powerful trainer. Just like the game, Ash will witness all of this character development.

Ash will defeat the elite four but Lillie will challenge him and he will lose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Feb 2017 02:28:46 No.31750564 Report

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>>31749446
It's a good thing you haven't watched the new series, then. Keep thinking that, what you posted is ten times better than the shitshow we're currently getting.

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