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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 03:40:35 No.31809140 View View Reply Original Report

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>Looker is found in ORAS collapsed on a beach confused and with his memory lost
>Sun and Moon states Anabel was found the same way and in the same state by Looker
>ORAS teased Ultra Wormholes
>The Looker in ORAS is from the NonMega Universe and was dumped there by an Ultra Wormhole
>The Looker in SM is from the MegaUniverse

Really makes ya think...

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 03:41:47 No.31809158 Report

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>>31809140

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 03:42:35 No.31809164 Report

Quoted By: >>31809203 >>31813672

>non mega universe

stopped reading there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 03:45:32 No.31809203 Report

Quoted By: >>31813672

>>31809164
Its CANON bro just ask everyone's fav character Zinnia

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 03:48:56 No.31809259 Report

Quoted By: >>31809381 >>31809383

We don't have a lot of evidence for which Looker is which, but I think timeline-wise Looker's appearance in ORAS is kind of confusing.

It pre-dates his appearance in DPPt, but at the same time he barely does anything of consequence in the game so that his appearance is obviously for a reason. I don't see how he's from the original continuity universe if he gives you a Mega Stone.

My headcanon is that Hoopa was punching interdimensional holes has something to do with why Deoxys was aiming a meteorite for Hoenn. The interdimensional hole-punching weakened interdimensional walls and is ultimately what led to the Ultra Beasts being able to more freely move from their universe to the S/M one. GF just gets bored of ideas so quickly they didn't bother to reference Hoopa in S/M to make it more obvious.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 03:54:16 No.31809323 Report

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>unexplained lore
Pokesouls confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 03:59:13 No.31809381 Report

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>>31809259
Real shame they didnt tie Hoopa into any of this or make it a plot point for anything in Gen 6 or 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 03:59:26 No.31809383 Report

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>>31809259
That's a good headcannon, anon.

In my headcannon the weakening in the dimensional gaps were caused thanks to the events in DPPt because someone in SM (I think Wicke) said that the first wormholes were seen 10 years ago, the exact time between the 4th and 7th generation (HGSS/DPPt -> 6 years BW -> 2 years BW2/SM ->2 years SM).

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 04:01:35 No.31809415 Report

Quoted By: >>31809447

>this is what gen 6 did to the series continuity

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 04:02:40 No.31809425 Report

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>>31809383
>someone in SM (I think Wicke) said that the first wormholes were seen 10 years
I missed that. Huge if true, because it overwrites my headcanon, and also helps with the chronology of the games. The latter being a huge boon for /vp/ because people on this board are retarded and have been arguing for SM taking place simultaneous with or immediately after XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 04:03:29 No.31809435 Report

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>>31809383
Your headcanon is right because Wicke said that because the Gen 4 remakes ARE GONNA HAVE EXACTLY THAT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 04:04:25 No.31809447 Report

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>>31809415
I wouldn't worry about it. GameFreak will probably ultimately take a Zelda-esque approach to the timeline, where a timeline more or less did exist for a long time, but was never really serviced, and even when it was made explicit, it was never really capitalized on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 04:31:38 No.31809773 Report

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>>31809140
>Not mega universe
>carrying a Megastone

Inb4: Oras Looker is from the next gen, where he has an Audino

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 11:34:51 No.31812480 Report

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>>31809435
well, in Burnet's lab there are books specifically about Palkia, Giratina, Bronzong...

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 11:45:32 No.31812530 Report

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>>31809140
I can kinda see this but it to much of a stretch for me to really say headcanon worthy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 11:48:26 No.31812543 Report

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>>31809140
>ORAS is from the NonMega Universe
He gives you a fucking Mega Stone.

This is what happens.

>Guzzlord wrecking shit in Alola
>Nanu, Looker and another Interpol agent sent to kill it
>They fuck up, the extre Interpol agent dies, Looker is sucked into an Ultra Wormhole
>Thrown out at Battle Resort
>His presences attracts UBs there, who attack Battle Tower and Anabel is lost

All of it fits perfectly. There's no need to get people from another universe here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 11:50:41 No.31812552 Report

Quoted By: >>31814196

>>31809383
>HGSS/DPPt -> 6 years BW -> 2 years BW2/SM ->2 years SM
This is pulled out of your ass. We have no numbers for those periods of time between the games. All we know is that Kanto/Hoenn takes place 3 years before Johto/Sinnoh, that BW2/XY takes place 2 years after BW1 and that SM takes place 10+ years after Kanto/Hoenn.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 11:51:50 No.31812561 Report

Quoted By: >>31812572

>>31812543
This fits PERFECTLY, had it not been for Looker explicitly stating that Anabel is from another universe. Though I am not sure if this is a translation error.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 11:53:42 No.31812572 Report

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>>31812561
Another world. They also state UBs are from another world. They are referring to Ultra Space when they use the "another world".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 11:56:27 No.31812583 Report

Quoted By: >>31812596

Let's be serious, GF's not gonna do anything with the alternate universe factor, they're just gonna be teased in every postgame quest with Looker in it and stretch out the plot so it goes on forever and never conclude.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 11:57:32 No.31812590 Report

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>>31809140
OP, ORAS is at the beginning of the game timeline happening after Gen 1 and remakes, and SM are at the last games in the timeline (so far)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 11:59:21 No.31812596 Report

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>>31812583
They ONLY used the alternate world bullshit to explain why Hoenn has Megas, after stating in XY that Kalos is the only region with Megas. NOTHING ELSE. This people coming from alternate universes or the alternate universe being relevant at all is just fucking headcanon bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:02:45 No.31812612 Report

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1. The first Ultra Wormhole appears in Alola thousands of years ago and dumps a Solgaleo and Lunala. They befriend the Tapus after a fierce battle and become the Guardians of Alola along with them.
2. Another Ultra Wormhole opens a dumps some Ultra Beasts that tries to destroy Alola, but Solgaleo and Lunala stops them (IIRC).
3. Thousands of years later, another Ultra Wormhole opens and dumps a Guzzlord in Alola who starts wrecking shit. Looker, Nanu and another agent are sent to stop it, but the third agent dies in the battle.
4. Looker enters the Ultra Wormhole and gets dumped in Hoenn, having lost his memories. He is found by Brendan and May and gives them an Audinite as thanks for helping him.
5. His presence as a Faller attracts more Ultra Wormholes and Ultra Beasts, and they invade Hoenn a few years after the Battle Frontier is built.
6. Anabel enters an Ultra Wormhole during the battle and gets dumped in Alola. Looker goes to find her after the invasion ends.
7. Anabel never recovered her memories, and started a new life as a police agent with Looker.
8. The International Police creates the UB Taskforce to prevent future invasions. Anabel becomes the leader of the taskforce.
9. The events of Sun and Moon happens.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:24:36 No.31812724 Report

Quoted By: >>31812761 >>31812874 >>31812962

Holly shit

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:29:28 No.31812748 Report

Quoted By: >>31812784 >>31813672

Look you fucking faggots, you SEE Looker in almost all games. While I don't believe the bullshit about the timeline having changed, even if it did, you see Looker in a lot of """""""old timeline""""""" games. He did not change universes. You're just a fucking retard who can't follow the story of a fucking kids' game. Go watch Game Theory and post these retarded theories of your on their comment section or reddit.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:31:34 No.31812761 Report

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>>31812724
Who is that Handsome man?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:35:12 No.31812782 Report

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>>31809140
*laughs*

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:35:45 No.31812784 Report

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>>31812748
>You're just a fucking retard who can't follow the story of a fucking kids' game.

>Kids

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:35:54 No.31812785 Report

Quoted By: >>31813672

Gamefreak really took a shit on its own game story by including that multiverse crap. Now it's all edgy underage bait for people with poor taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:37:54 No.31812793 Report

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>>31812784
now make an edit like that one Chris-chan gif where it goes from young to old

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:40:29 No.31812805 Report

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>>31812761
David Tennant

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:46:59 No.31812837 Report

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>>31809773
WHAT IF it was an ordinary stone in the nonmegaverse but it got "awakened" in the megaverse. It would also explain why there were new megas in ORAS

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:47:17 No.31812838 Report

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>>31812761
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Doctor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Tennant

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:49:27 No.31812847 Report

Quoted By: >>31812967

>>31812837
Or Mega Stones originate in the space between worlds or some shit.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 12:54:40 No.31812874 Report

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>>31812724
this comparison has been around since platinum came out. jesus fuck I've been here for over ten years

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 13:08:13 No.31812957 Report

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>>31812761

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 13:08:59 No.31812962 Report

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>>31812724
>Space-time traveler
>Relationship with the police
>Shit are identicals

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 13:09:29 No.31812967 Report

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>>31812837
>>31812847
Or Mega Stones originates from the Ultimate Weapon as the games fucking tells you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 13:10:54 No.31812975 Report

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>This entire thread
Watch as everything gets solved in the remakes of the very first games Looker appeared in.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 15:02:31 No.31813672 Report

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>there are Pokémon that control time and space
>dipshit adults think they know better than everyone else and try to control these creatures
>10-year-olds save the world
>timeline gets fucked 26 different ways
>"t-time is still linear, guys!"

You'd think after SM's establishing both versions in alternate dimensions, folks would give up this retarded "there's only ONE way it happened" meme already.

>>31809164
>>31809203
Sootopolis' geography formed completely differently in ORAS than RSE. In RSE, the crater was formed by an underwater volcano; in ORAS, it was formed by the meteor that brought Mega Stones.

>>31812596
The only games that were ever retconned, for any period of time, were RBY and GSC. RSE is 100% canon.

>>31812748
>SM literally tells you the symptoms of someone who changed universes

>>31812785
They didn't want remakes to retcon the originals, especially since folks can transfer mons from a decade ago. That's the main point of this entire thing.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 15:14:48 No.31813780 Report

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>>31809140
>MegaVerse
>Non mega Universe
Why do you fucks pretend Zinnia was right? For all we know, she lied and fucked up a lot of shit, why would anyone believe someone like that? Are you all submissive fucks who will listen to a failure of an npc just because she has decent porn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 16:05:13 No.31814155 Report

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>>31812761
I don't know, but I do agree with you that he's quite the looker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 16:10:46 No.31814196 Report

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>>31812552
2 years between BW2 and XY comes from Grimsley's concept art, which labels him "Grimsley 2 years later". Right now, the main debate is how much time passed between DPP and BW.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2017 16:18:34 No.31814243 Report

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>Multiple universes
Stop reminding me
Thanks gen 6

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