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Anonymous Sat 18 Feb 2017 23:39:57 No.31831182 View View Reply Original Report

ANAHEIM REGIONALS STREAMING RIGHT NOW ON TWITCH:
>nuggetbridge

Resources, videos, streams, tournament results, etc.:
>pastebin.com/hXS7vqc2

Last thread:
>>31733164

>>>/vp/vgcg

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 18 Feb 2017 23:42:35 No.31831206 Report

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reminder that poisonium-z salazzle shits all over AFK

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 18 Feb 2017 23:54:36 No.31831355 Report

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2nd for gigalith best vgc

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 18 Feb 2017 23:56:01 No.31831371 Report

Quoted By: >>31831469

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 00:05:12 No.31831469 Report

Quoted By: >>31831828

>>31831371
>Talonflame
n-nani?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 00:27:42 No.31831810 Report

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>That undefeated goblin
jesus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 00:29:11 No.31831828 Report

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>>31831469
FASTE WINDE priority edition
>in lele's world
I know, I know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 00:32:33 No.31831875 Report

Quoted By: >>31831907 >>31831916

>>31831182
So on average how hard is it to make into nationals or worlds how many championship points do you need or what's needed to get that point I wouldn't do it because I think I'm a top player and can win it all but just for fun have a cool experience and trip

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 00:34:28 No.31831907 Report

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>>31831875
By trip I mean obviously I'm paying for the cost I know only the very top people get travel awards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 00:34:50 No.31831916 Report

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>>31831875
Do you have enough money? That's how you win your trip to worlds this year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 00:41:19 No.31832028 Report

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>>31831916
Yeah I do I have a decent income are they doing that last chance entry thing or whatever they called it the previous years

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 00:50:58 No.31832171 Report

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>>31832028
they stopped doing that back in 2015

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 00:52:46 No.31832204 Report

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>>31832171
never forget

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 03:23:59 No.31834309 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 03:55:36 No.31834685 Report

Quoted By: >>31834704

Can I use egg moves that are only possible via Bank in this format? Or Fake Out Salazzle and co. are still unusable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 03:57:30 No.31834704 Report

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>>31834685
ye

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 05:26:22 No.31835717 Report

Quoted By: >>31836030 >>31837305

Gavin's doing it again. No UBs, no Tapus, only breedable stuff and hard TR. The absolute madman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 06:00:20 No.31836030 Report

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>>31835717
Do pokemon get leveled up in a tournament or is that picture legit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 06:02:12 No.31836046 Report

Quoted By: >>31836127

>>31836030
leveled up. why else would there be a level 22 araquanid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 06:12:43 No.31836127 Report

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>>31836046
Just asking for confirmation. I haven't used araquanid despite being partial to trick room so I'm not familiar with what it does besides washing machine simulator

Rogi

Rogi Sun 19 Feb 2017 08:00:27 No.31836757 Report

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Anyone want to have a match? I could use the practice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 08:42:42 No.31836973 Report

Quoted By: >>31837088 >>31838745

>>31836030
They get autolevelled, which means you can actually take in a team of Level 1s, meaning you could have two variants of your team with vastly different EVs and switch between them, as long as their level 1 stats are the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 09:04:51 No.31837088 Report

Quoted By: >>31837113

>>31836973
That's a bit disgusting when you put it like that. Why was it changed from last gen exactly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 09:06:01 No.31837094 Report

Quoted By: >>31837125

is nuggetbridge streaming the finals today?
also, do we have usage statistics or top cut teams yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 09:09:34 No.31837113 Report

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>>31837088
Normal rules (which untethered tournaments in VGC 2016 used) also autolevelled things up to 50, which is a shame since it also means you can't use FEAR, and I think FEAR would be better in 2016 than most other years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 09:12:19 No.31837125 Report

Quoted By: >>31837142 >>31837658

>>31837094
They tend to avoid posting top cut teams of two-day tournaments in a particularly easy to find format, to keep up the slim chance that somebody wouldn't scout their next opponent.

The one time I top cut Nationals, my top 32 opponent already knew my team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 09:17:16 No.31837142 Report

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>>31837125
That's fair. I didn't even think of that, but it makes sense.

I am going to my first regionals in a month (portland) so I am antsy to study the four regionals between now and then, so that I am sure I know the meta inside and out...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 09:53:55 No.31837305 Report

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>>31835717
how does he keep getting away with that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 11:24:43 No.31837658 Report

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>>31837125
Did you do any scouting yourself? Generally advised, even if only for a a 'everyone else is doing it' reasoning.
Last year when I cut Nationals A few of my friends went through footage of the player from mss and regional while I slept, woke up to a short essay on their playstyle and team choices.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 13:33:00 No.31838192 Report

Quoted By: >>31838272

twitch/sejun_park

Sejun's starting to stream regularly, didn't know he spoke english pretty well

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 13:35:42 No.31838205 Report

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There's also a MSS in sweden going on right now but the commentators are pretty braindead

twitch/pokemonsweden

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 13:46:51 No.31838272 Report

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>>31838192
he has the voice of a cartoon character but I can't quite tell who

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 14:39:38 No.31838537 Report

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For maximun VGC streaming sunday comfiness, mix pokemonsweden + nuggetbridge on multitwitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 15:18:04 No.31838745 Report

Quoted By: >>31838749

>>31836973
But your battle box is locked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 15:18:32 No.31838749 Report

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>>31838745
Yes, and?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 15:21:12 No.31838764 Report

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>>31838749
You can't change teams, unless you meant for different tournaments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 15:21:45 No.31838767 Report

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>>31838764
You can with pkhex because game freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 17:20:42 No.31839598 Report

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stream's up

twitch/nuggetbridge

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 17:35:50 No.31839739 Report

Quoted By: >>31839794

And Gary gets put in the dumpster where his shitty meme team belongs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 17:41:08 No.31839794 Report

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>>31839739

Say what you want but often things that people diss as "meme teams" are what in the end people end up copying after a good run in a real life event. I remember people laughing at AV Kartana because "lol it has piss poor spdef anyway, not worth it" and bam, everyone and their mothers started running one as soon as Cybertron got rekt by one in the first round.

Then again I really desired him to lose to a pure trick room with no UBs or Tapus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 17:48:37 No.31839847 Report

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>it's another "aaron gets bodied on stream" episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 17:49:13 No.31839852 Report

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>hard TR vs eevee in top8
oh boy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 18:53:17 No.31840407 Report

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>>31815383

Did anyone participate in this friendly competition? I've never done any sort of competition, so I didn't know how it worked, but apparently you can only be matched up with other people doing the competition at the same time. Which means, for this, with only 31 participants, the odds are slim. I think it'd be better to set up a regular tournament if you want practice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 19:13:19 No.31840601 Report

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>hating every single episode of a TV show but watching anyway

why

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 19:24:02 No.31840680 Report

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has the swedish stream ended?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 19:28:05 No.31840714 Report

Quoted By: >>31840880

>Drifblim in semifinals

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 19:37:40 No.31840820 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 19:43:49 No.31840880 Report

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>>31840714
source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 19:44:11 No.31840885 Report

Quoted By: >>31840917

Is it just me or the stream's quality is really low?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 19:47:09 No.31840917 Report

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>>31840880
it just won on stream

>>31840885
yeah

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 20:16:46 No.31841199 Report

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>this game
bulky steel types with leech seed and eviolite was a mistake

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:27:47 No.31841767 Report

Quoted By: >>31841846

WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT SALAZZLE, /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:36:00 No.31841846 Report

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>>31841767
that you want to stick your dick in it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:40:11 No.31841900 Report

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Holy shit, Gavin is at one win of a perfect run. He hasn't lost once in the entire tournament AND with that team.

I can't wait to see what kind of desperate excuse the people who shit on VGC are gonna come up if he wins.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:42:18 No.31841928 Report

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Place your bets, /vgcg/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:43:26 No.31841941 Report

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THIS MAN IS A FUCKING GOD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:44:24 No.31841945 Report

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gavin's run doesnt surprise me at all. people have gotten so lazy with TR counters in this format, just slapping gigalith/snorlax/a mememon with roar on their teams and calling it a day, which may work on battle spot but not in bo3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:44:50 No.31841950 Report

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THEN HE PROTECTS INTO AN ENCORE LMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:48:10 No.31841990 Report

Quoted By: >>31841996

How do I get better at team building?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:49:05 No.31841996 Report

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>>31841990
read op's pastebin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:50:31 No.31842012 Report

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>that last turn prediction

Jesus.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:51:15 No.31842021 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:52:00 No.31842026 Report

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HE DID IT AGAIN BOYS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:52:21 No.31842032 Report

Quoted By: >>31842151 >>31852957

>>31842021
'without tapus or UBs' is missing the point. its a hard TR team, which is not only a semi-common team comp but has no reason to run a tapu or a UB due to the fact that they're all either fast or middling in terms of speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:53:10 No.31842044 Report

Quoted By: >>31842052

>that double into magnezone
????

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:54:19 No.31842052 Report

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>>31842044
He was predicting the Snorlax to protect that turn.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:56:52 No.31842078 Report

Quoted By: >>31842090

2017 worlds finals will be Sekiam vs Gavin.

Screencap this shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 21:58:07 No.31842090 Report

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>>31842078
I want joowah kim in finals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:04:12 No.31842151 Report

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>>31842032
Doesn't matter, it still didn't use them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:04:39 No.31842155 Report

Quoted By: >>31842188 >>31842207 >>31842321 >>31842327

>that interview

Is Gavin the smartest player in VGC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:07:19 No.31842188 Report

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>>31842155
He's very, very good.
Guy is impeccable at reading the meta, that interview was proof

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:09:49 No.31842207 Report

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>>31842155
He's at least saying some hard truths.

I noticed as well in Battle Spot that since everything started running more speed with scarves and tailwind more prominent as soon as you got a Trick Room you could shit all over their teams because they at most had one-two mons to handle it.

Also like how he said between lines "THINK PEOPLE, don't just copy shit and call it a day".

I wasn't convinced from his last win but now I've started liking him for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:22:52 No.31842321 Report

Quoted By: >>31842335

>>31842155
Where can I watch this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:23:55 No.31842327 Report

Quoted By: >>31842398

>>31842155
maybe not, but he is the funniest for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:24:38 No.31842335 Report

Quoted By: >>31842664

>>31842321
Literally read the first line in the OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:31:12 No.31842398 Report

Quoted By: >>31842414

>>31842327
Who would you say is smarter? The way he approaches the metagame and even individual games is very interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:32:36 No.31842414 Report

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>>31842398
I guess there's lots of top players who are just as smart, like wolfe or sejun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:47:06 No.31842586 Report

Quoted By: >>31842669

So I have Bulu Gastrodon and Arcanine so far, what's a good Pokémon to add to deal with electric types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:53:44 No.31842664 Report

Quoted By: >>31842762

>>31842335
I mean, if it's streamed and it's over, I figure I can't watch the stream...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:54:24 No.31842669 Report

Quoted By: >>31842730

>>31842586
Garchomp would be the obvious answer here, but most teams expect it so you need to know how to play it safely. Lightningrod Marowak-A also works, and you already have Gastrodon. Kartana could even work in that regard. Dealing with Tapus in general, Garchomp, Celesteela and Trick Room teams are more of an issue than plain old electric types

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 22:59:29 No.31842730 Report

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>>31842669
I guess maybe I should focus more on making it a bit more anti-trick room. Maybe P2, Kartana, and one more Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 23:02:57 No.31842762 Report

Quoted By: >>31842927

>>31842664
don't you know how twitch works?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 23:17:55 No.31842927 Report

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>>31842762
I never use twitch, sorry.

But yeah, I followed the link and found the recordings.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 23:31:27 No.31843069 Report

Quoted By: >>31843238 >>31843899 >>31844655 >>31847222 >>31849007

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 23:45:16 No.31843238 Report

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>>31843069
>eevee team in top 8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 00:38:02 No.31843885 Report

Quoted By: >>31843948

Bulu Arcanine Gastrodon Marowak P2 Koko. Does that sound too gimmicky of a team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 00:39:11 No.31843899 Report

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>>31843069
1st team is pretty respectable

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 00:43:27 No.31843948 Report

Quoted By: >>31844199

>>31843885
Why arcanine and marowak? A little support to help TR go up would be helpful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 01:01:34 No.31844199 Report

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>>31843948
My thought process was that I really really want to kill Celesteela. But I guess two of them is overkill. Might stick with just Marowak then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 01:39:26 No.31844655 Report

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>>31843069
gavin does it again

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 03:41:20 No.31845860 Report

Quoted By: >>31849007

Gavin's team, if anyone wants to try it out and fail miserably

http://pastebin.com/NQkHPa2s

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 05:47:29 No.31847222 Report

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>>31843069
My man Jirawiwat does it again, such a based Thai

Props to Nelson tho, dude crossed the river in a big tire to play in that Reg

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 12:20:54 No.31849007 Report

Quoted By: >>31850404 >>31850617 >>31853472

>>31843069
>>31845860
Got to give Gavin a huge amount of respect not so much for the 'no UB/Tapu' crap.

But the fact this guy has been pretty much running the virtually same team since the very beginning of this year and has stuck with it every game making small incremental modifications to it as he goes along instead of bouncing around every fad every few weeks.

He's pretty much made that team his own and as the year goes on he will have a massive advantage as he knows his own team and his matchups like the back of his hand.

This guy is pretty much the posterboy of slow, steady and consistent in the same way the Japanese players tend to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 16:07:25 No.31850404 Report

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>>31849007
Yeah, not to mention that he doesn't have any problem sharing the team with everyone, while still being able to succeed in tournaments. Totally like Wolfe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 16:35:21 No.31850617 Report

Quoted By: >>31851768 >>31853506

>>31849007
>But the fact this guy has been pretty much running the virtually same team since the very beginning of this year and has stuck with it every game making small incremental modifications to it as he goes along instead of bouncing around every fad every few weeks.
>He's pretty much made that team his own and as the year goes on he will have a massive advantage as he knows his own team and his matchups like the back of his hand.

funny enough, this also applies to the Eevee guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 17:10:10 No.31850890 Report

Quoted By: >>31853009

I need to replace Mandibuzz and Salazzle with something but I'm not sure what.

http://pastebin.com/T3sKaG94

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 18:50:24 No.31851768 Report

Quoted By: >>31853007

>>31850617
Yeah, but the Eevee guy is cringy as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 20:51:42 No.31852957 Report

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>>31842032

"MUH LEGENEDARUES" idiots don't respond to reasoning. Don't try it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 20:55:21 No.31853007 Report

Quoted By: >>31853068

>>31851768
how so? you sure you didn't get your ass kicked in by extremememe boost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 20:55:34 No.31853009 Report

Quoted By: >>31853055

>>31850890

I'm running a very similar team with Arcanine over Salazzle, and with a few item differences.

What exactly are you having trouble with? I know for me my issues are Celesteela and Hard TR, so something that can help deal with those would be where I'd change up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:00:18 No.31853055 Report

Quoted By: >>31853222

>>31853009
Those are what my problems are. I might switch the Tailwind stuff for mild TR instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:01:12 No.31853068 Report

Quoted By: >>31853082 >>31853800

>>31853007
Just look at his YT channel and tell me that's not cringy as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:02:33 No.31853082 Report

Quoted By: >>31853110

>>31853068
what is the name of it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:05:19 No.31853110 Report

Quoted By: >>31853146

>>31853082
Giovanni Costa/RewindReplayTV.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:08:45 No.31853146 Report

Quoted By: >>31853220 >>31853242 >>31853875

>>31853110
>this fucking intro
please tell me it doesn't get any worse than this for when I actually watch a video later

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:16:16 No.31853220 Report

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>>31853146
keep watching

they're great

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:16:50 No.31853222 Report

Quoted By: >>31853248

>>31853055

Trick Room can be played around with by either stopping it from getting set up, reversing it, or not minding it being up in the first place. You have Taunt on Mandibuzz for the first catgeory and Gigalith is one of the fastest mons on the field in Trick Room, plus you have Fake Out pressure from Salazzle.

Having your own TR setter might not be a terrible idea, though. A previous version of my team had P2 over Kartana, but I dropped it because Fini and assorted faststuffs was kicking my ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:18:56 No.31853242 Report

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>>31853146
It's a surprise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:19:35 No.31853248 Report

Quoted By: >>31853270 >>31853344

>>31853222
I just don't have room. Another problem is that I'm god awful at Ev spreads or building sets in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:22:35 No.31853270 Report

Quoted By: >>31853387

>>31853248
just copy and paste sets from teams on TT or smogon for the time being, you can customize them more when you know what you're doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:32:37 No.31853344 Report

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>>31853248

Netdeck sets from more accomplished players until you get the hang of it yourself.

I will say that on your team Air Balloon seems like a waste of an item on Gigalith, since you can Wide Guard Earthquake or Protect against the Ground Z move. Rockium Z or one of the 25% berries might be a good choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:37:13 No.31853387 Report

Quoted By: >>31853396

>>31853270
But I wanted to go to a VGC tournament with my friends soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:37:59 No.31853396 Report

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>>31853387
yes and?

all of the sets listed will be fine unless they're extremely off the wall specialised sets

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:44:27 No.31853472 Report

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>>31849007
I've been running a variation of the same team since December and I agree. After using a team for a long time, you get to know its limitations and how to work around them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:47:11 No.31853506 Report

Quoted By: >>31853610

>>31850617
the day the eevee guy wins a tournament the entire VGC community is gonna commit sudoku

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:58:32 No.31853610 Report

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>>31853506
to be fair, he's top cut a lot of events. I think he has around 350/500 CP right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 22:18:37 No.31853800 Report

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>>31853068
it's pretty autistic, but the production is pretty cool

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 22:29:19 No.31853875 Report

Quoted By: >>31853901

>>31853146
>no outlines mod
>this shitty echo on the commentary and constant cutting out of music
>this obviously forced voice
>this fucking intro again
I'm ready to fucking die now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 22:31:50 No.31853901 Report

Quoted By: >>31853920

>>31853875
Don't forget the gen 1 ashnime style.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 22:33:55 No.31853920 Report

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>>31853901
I don't know what's worse, the
>OH SH*T
>stream of bleeped out fucks
or
>assnime shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 22:51:42 No.31854123 Report

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>>31831182
>GARY SENT OUT FLYGON

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 23:35:34 No.31854590 Report

Quoted By: >>31854683 >>31854697 >>31854713

How does draw work at vgc?

I just had the most hilarious battle, where it was my Nihilego against the opponent's Golisopod. He sucker punched into my protect twice. Since the third protect was almost guaranteed to fail he attacked me normally, so I outsped and ohko the Golisopod.

Thing is, Nihilego was at 1 hp and had life orb. So both pokémon died in this last turn. I thought it was going to be a draw, but game says I won. What gives?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 23:43:42 No.31854677 Report

Quoted By: >>31854709

So how bad am I if I ask for injections of a team that someone else made because I want to enter a tournament in two weeks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 23:44:25 No.31854683 Report

Quoted By: >>31854696

>>31854590
draws don't exist

the last pokemon remaining wins the game, even if the last pokemon immediately faints after

even things like "everything faints because of perish song and nobody has anything in the back" is decided by whoever faints last, for example

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 23:45:35 No.31854696 Report

Quoted By:

>>31854683
Oh, nice. I've been playing on and off since xy, but I'm trying to get a little more serious this year. So this result caught me by surprise.

Thanks, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 23:45:38 No.31854697 Report

Quoted By: >>31854730

>>31854590
if I recall correctly, if you faint from self inflicted damage, like recoil, while knocking out the opponent you still win
however, if you hit them and they faint but then you faint from, say, rocky helmet or rough skin, then they win.
it's just the way the rules are really, no particular logic behind it as far as i know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 23:46:37 No.31854709 Report

Quoted By:

>>31854677
Very, because you're not doing it yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 23:46:58 No.31854713 Report

Quoted By: >>31854730

>>31854590

Whatever Pokémon faints first in a "tie" loses. In your case, Life Orb self damage activates after the fainting animation of the opposing Pokémon, so your Pokémon wins the battle. If I recall correctly, recoil moves work like this too. Stuff like Rough Skin and Iron Barbs procs before the defending Pokémon faints, and the attacking Pokémon will faint first a result, meaning tie goes to the defense.

There are ties in VGC but it's all but impossible to achieve. You have to have pretty much the exact same team and time out with exactly the same HP on every single one of your Pokémon to draw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 23:48:50 No.31854730 Report

Quoted By: >>31854847

>>31854697
>>31854713
Thanks, guys. I actually found the link to the rules in the global link and they cover pretty much every scenario except

>You have to have pretty much the exact same team and time out with exactly the same HP on every single one of your Pokémon to draw.
Which I suppose would be really funny to see

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 00:00:18 No.31854847 Report

Quoted By:

>>31854730

doesn't have to be the same mons per se, just mons at the same HP stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 02:42:50 No.31856527 Report

Quoted By: >>31857156

Anybody here practice? We could match while the servers are down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 03:45:19 No.31857156 Report

Quoted By: >>31857351

>>31856527
Would love to, but right now my WiFi is half dead. Like, my 3DS connects to it, but I can't do anything online.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 04:00:52 No.31857351 Report

Quoted By: >>31857527

>>31857156
No problem, I wish this general wasn't so dead though, oh well!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 04:16:56 No.31857527 Report

Quoted By: >>31857641

>>31857351
I can play.

4614-1324-1546

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 04:31:09 No.31857641 Report

Quoted By: >>31857651

>>31857527
Are you still around? My FC is 2337-5633-6311 if you want to have a best of three.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 04:32:24 No.31857651 Report

Quoted By: >>31857696 >>31857988

>>31857641
added

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 04:38:48 No.31857696 Report

Quoted By:

>>31857651
what's your IGN?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 05:16:21 No.31857988 Report

Quoted By: >>31857998

>>31857651
GG! Thanks for the games!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 05:17:29 No.31857998 Report

Quoted By:

>>31857988
GGs. Aurora veil and muk is fucking annoying. If I had Z muddy watered that last game, I probably could've taken it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 08:42:05 No.31859138 Report

Quoted By:

bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 13:06:59 No.31860054 Report

Quoted By:

Anyone here up for some practice ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 13:08:18 No.31860057 Report

Quoted By: >>31860089 >>31862753

So getting into VGC for the first time

What threats do I consider when team building? Any tips with this meta? Thank you very much

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 13:16:23 No.31860089 Report

Quoted By: >>31860790

>>31860057
Read the links in the OP, especially this when you want to consider threats/what's prevalent.
http://www.trainertower.com/WCS-battle-spot-usage/

Trick room is pretty common at the moment so you need a team that can deal with/take advantage of that. You should also have a way to beat rain (usually golduck+pelipper) and sun (torkoal+lilligant) even though they're less commonly seen now than they used to be.

If this is your first team playing VGC then practising with a pre-made team or at least some pre-made sets is generally suggested (you can copypasta on showdown or QR scan) until you get more comfortable with the format and can make a team that would fare more reliably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 15:33:04 No.31860790 Report

Quoted By: >>31867024

>>31860089
Not the same anon, but also starting out on VGC. I built this, and it was working fairly well in the beginning, but I was just getting stomped by Muk, so I replaced the Milotic with a Garchomp (and since it wasn't working well either, I swapped him with Whiscash since he's the only Water type that learns Earth Power), which lets me counter Muk, but I just get stomped most of the time. Can you give me some advice on what to replace? I feel like Bulu and Whiscash are by far the weakest links.

http://pastebin.com/ne7kq7an

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 16:06:49 No.31861057 Report

Quoted By: >>31861679 >>31862872

>tfw $30 entry fee for St. Louis

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:26:07 No.31861679 Report

Quoted By:

>>31861057

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:26:11 No.31862753 Report

Quoted By:

>>31860057
watch cyberton's video on vgc team building

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:42:10 No.31862872 Report

Quoted By: >>31862908

http://pastebin.com/H1iX13YS
I went 6-3 with this on Saturday.
r8 h8 and deb8

>>31861057
It was $30 at Anaheim too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:44:38 No.31862908 Report

Quoted By: >>31865271

>>31862872
how'd that koko end up doing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 21:49:26 No.31864193 Report

Quoted By: >>31864225 >>31864234 >>31864286

is AV Kartana the best Kartana to use? I'd use Focus Sash but I'm running it on Salazzle instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 21:52:09 No.31864225 Report

Quoted By:

>>31864193
I wouldn't say the best, but it is the most common one. It comes down to personal preference/item availability, I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 21:53:03 No.31864234 Report

Quoted By:

>>31864193
Focus Sash is better, unless you have FS on something else. AV is okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 21:58:49 No.31864286 Report

Quoted By:

>>31864193
they are both good items on kartana
the only bad item is scarf

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 22:01:26 No.31864308 Report

Quoted By: >>31864345

Fini Arcanine Kartana Garchomp Gigalith and then I need one more pokemon to round it out. Maybe P2?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 22:08:24 No.31864345 Report

Quoted By: >>31864557

>>31864308
p2 or mimikyu would be good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 22:09:44 No.31864354 Report

Quoted By: >>31864382 >>31865053

What's every Pokémon that's been considered the "M-Kangaskhan of 2017" for just a week or two? That one Pokémon at any time which people think is definitely going to be the single dominating threat of the year? Not like Garchomp or Muk who's always just kind of there but never top, or Golduck who shot up in usage but only from "obscure" to "niche", but the Pokémon that shot to the top then kind of stumbled down a bit?

I'm thinking something like
>Celesteela
>Oranguru
>Porygon2
>Tapu Fini
>Snorlax
>Arcanine

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 22:12:55 No.31864382 Report

Quoted By:

>>31864354
the answer is: none of them

this entire format hasn't been anywhere near as centralised as previous years have been

there are certainly threats that you need to prepare for otherwise you just straight up lose to them, like celesteela, sun, rain and TR bellylax, but nothing nearly as centralising as mkang/maw/charY, chalk, or primals were

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 22:31:09 No.31864557 Report

Quoted By:

>>31864345
I'm going to try P2 a bit then try Mimikyu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 22:58:55 No.31864849 Report

Quoted By: >>31865107

>lose a match on the Battle spot
>try another one because I want to save my already terrible record
>get DC'd before the game even starts
Isn't it great to buy the games because you want the real competitive experience and get something shittier than a chinese browser app?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 23:17:47 No.31865053 Report

Quoted By:

>>31864354
>oranguru
oranguru already died

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 23:23:01 No.31865107 Report

Quoted By:

>>31864849
I was having the same problem until I moved my router to where it wasn't being blocked by anything. I also changed the channel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 23:37:52 No.31865271 Report

Quoted By:

>>31862908
For the role it was in, (set up a screen or whittle away at things with nature's madness/thunderbolt) not too bad. One thing that didn't work as planned was sky drop + z-conversion, but that was more because porygon-z is so frail. Overall I think it's definitely worth a try; thundurus in vgc11 was primarily used as a special attacker at first

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 00:36:53 No.31865860 Report

Quoted By:

>lose because you run out of 45 seconds

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Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 00:54:25 No.31866040 Report

Quoted By:

>fightingium swords dance kartana

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 01:37:37 No.31866487 Report

Quoted By: >>31866546

How do you beat follow-me set up teams? I thought the answer was to just brute force it and hope for the best but clearly I was stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 01:42:54 No.31866546 Report

Quoted By: >>31867017

>>31866487
Generally they're either gonna be leading with smeargle or clefairy. Lead with something that can taunt and something else that can OHKO it. If it's EVO boost, then having something with roar can shut down the typical clefairy+eevee lead. Curse is also an option as seen in one of the regional challenges, although that's only after the follow me user is taunted. Sticking Curse onto something puts a four turn timer on it and it gets passed along if the thing setting up baton passes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:24:42 No.31867017 Report

Quoted By: >>31867052 >>31867064

>>31866546
The fastest thing I have on my team that knows taunt is Fini. And that's at 111 speed. There's no way I'm outspeeding any of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:25:32 No.31867024 Report

Quoted By:

>>31860790
A problem I see with your team is Porygon-Z probably struggles to get Z-conversion off safely without any redirection or fake out pressure. If Porygon-Z isn't the core of the team with the other pokemon added to help it out it generally doesn't work too well.

What was wrong with garchomp? It would probably need Groundium Z to do much to opposing muks, especially with your own grassy terrain up. I probably wouldn't recommend Whiscash.

If your core is the first three Pokemon I'd focus on adding others which complement the first ones well, covering their weaknesses and possibly resisting moves from common threats (like having a flying-type/levitate user to switch nihilego out for). Another thing that's worth considering is adding a Pokemon that could take advantage of trick room because at the moment your only way to deal with it seems to be roaring the setter which isn't super reliable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:27:53 No.31867052 Report

Quoted By: >>31867069

>>31867017
Then change your team faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:28:56 No.31867063 Report

Quoted By: >>31867099

What's a good Pokemon for countering Trick Room?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:28:57 No.31867064 Report

Quoted By: >>31867078

>>31867017
Use something with fake out tbqh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:29:22 No.31867069 Report

Quoted By: >>31867077

>>31867052
No fuck you I like my team. At most I'd just switch out P2 for Mimikyu instead with either curse or destiny bond

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:30:26 No.31867077 Report

Quoted By:

>>31867069
Post your team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:30:34 No.31867078 Report

Quoted By: >>31867097

>>31867064
I can't remove anything from the team though without dramatically changing it. Aside from P2

It's Fini Arcanine Kartana Gigalith Garchomp P2/Mimikyu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:31:42 No.31867097 Report

Quoted By: >>31867115

>>31867078
>AFK core complaining about getting shit on by set up teams
get gud shitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:31:52 No.31867099 Report

Quoted By:

>>31867063
Snorlax or gigalith a trick room setter like P2. I highly recommend snorlax, if your opponent can't deal with it you straight up win, kind of like celesteela.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:34:14 No.31867115 Report

Quoted By: >>31867127 >>31867137

>>31867097
Fuck you I legit like Fini and Kartana

I will give you Arcanine though, I saw it was better than using Salazzle and switched it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:35:28 No.31867127 Report

Quoted By:

>>31867115
If set up teams are giving you trouble can you put roar on arcanine?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:36:21 No.31867137 Report

Quoted By: >>31867170

>>31867115
I suggested to put roar on arcanine and your dumbass is still complaining about set up teams when arcanine counters them with roar

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:39:00 No.31867170 Report

Quoted By:

>>31867137
I didn't see that I'm sorry. :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 06:18:42 No.31868584 Report

Quoted By:

bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 06:54:30 No.31868692 Report

Quoted By: >>31868991

How long should I try out a pokemon before I decide it's not working? I replaced scarf garchomp with mudsdale, both mainly for muk. I haven't used either very much, but when I did, they weren't very useful. But already I feel like I want to switch back to garchomp, because it had more success than mudsdale. Maybe change up the item though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 08:11:36 No.31868991 Report

Quoted By: >>31869055

>>31868692
A lot of people use groundium z chomp to K.O muk. Something interesting I learned is that electro ball a-raichu is an ohko on muk in electric terrain if you're just using a standard set. Might've been a damage roll and because mine is brave but some chink dropped that on me when I tried to switch my muk in to take what I thought was gonna be a shattered psyche+dazzling gleam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 08:21:22 No.31869055 Report

Quoted By: >>31869069

>>31868991
I know most people use groundium z, but it's so easy to see coming. Muk and arcanine always switch out.

When I think about it, pokemon is such a frustrating game. Nobody wants to let the other get a solid hit off on them, so the only way to kill something is to gradually wear it down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 08:25:27 No.31869069 Report

Quoted By:

>>31869055
I've seen groundium z gyarados as well. I ran into someone who made it so his arcanine did just over half health to muk with a flare blitz so he could 2hko without triggering the berry. But again, I'm using a set I found on trainer tower, one of the regional top cut players muks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 15:48:45 No.31870454 Report

Quoted By:

Up you go

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 16:32:25 No.31870819 Report

Quoted By: >>31871794 >>31872558

Reminder that this month's battle competition starts this afternoon/night depending on where you live since TPCi uses UTC.

If you need a reference, it starts at the same hour of the weekly maintenance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 18:38:37 No.31871794 Report

Quoted By: >>31871872

>>31870819
What competition? The only thing I see is February's international challenge, which says it starts on the 24th. Also, I can't log into the PGL right now because of maintenence, so I guess whatever you're talking about has started.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 18:51:03 No.31871872 Report

Quoted By: >>31871882

>>31871794
It says it starts on the 24rd, but it actually starts later today. Unless you're from Europe, that is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 18:53:04 No.31871882 Report

Quoted By:

>>31871872
23rd, fuck, I can't type today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 20:16:05 No.31872558 Report

Quoted By:

>>31870819
it starts on friday, not thursday.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 22:44:53 No.31874139 Report

Quoted By: >>31874285 >>31875949

anyone here going to the sheffield regional in a week and a half?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 22:58:40 No.31874285 Report

Quoted By:

>>31874139
Maybe. I live in York so I can easily just go on the morning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2017 00:28:02 No.31875187 Report

Quoted By:

dicks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2017 01:30:50 No.31875906 Report

Quoted By:

What's the typical EV spread for WP Gigalith?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2017 01:36:14 No.31875949 Report

Quoted By:

>>31874139
Here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2017 02:33:16 No.31876571 Report

Quoted By: >>31876846 >>31877143

streaming battlespot if anyone cares

/casiris_

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2017 02:53:05 No.31876846 Report

Quoted By: >>31877138 >>31879119

>>31876571
Don't have a Twitch accouont, so I'll ask here: Why are you using Stomping Tantrum? Does it work when you hit a Protect? Or is it just because it doesn't miss?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2017 03:20:01 No.31877138 Report

Quoted By:

>>31876846
It doesn't work after protect, no. I thought it did at one point, but I've been too lazy to change it. Haven't really had a need for the third move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2017 03:20:32 No.31877143 Report

Quoted By: >>31877168

>>31876571
>that etrian odyssey home theme

I love you. The image is frozen though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2017 03:22:34 No.31877168 Report

Quoted By:

>>31877143
Yeah I had to change something up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2017 05:45:27 No.31878597 Report

Quoted By: >>31878614

>face same guy over two days
>first battle, get fully paralyzed 6 times
>second battle, crits everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2017 05:47:11 No.31878614 Report

Quoted By: >>31879093

>>31878597
also losing 100 points in a day, fuck this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2017 07:21:57 No.31879093 Report

Quoted By:

>>31878614
I got frozen for ten turns only to have it come down to my frozen gyarados versus a gastrodon. I needed to land ice fang to kill it since it was at half health. It missed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Feb 2017 07:27:37 No.31879119 Report

Quoted By:

>>31876846
It works any time you get "but it failed".
Interestingly, Protect is shown to fail if everything else on the field has already used Protect or Switched, which means if Marowak is the slowest thing on the field, it can get the boost that way.
The main reason people use it is just for the accuracy though, moves failing is pretty rare.

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