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Depressing base stat facts

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 04:18:42 No.31834955 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31834975 >>31835024 >>31835081 >>31835802 >>31837031

ITT: depressing facts about Pokemon's base stats

I'll start: Basculin has a higher special attack than Lumineon

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pokémon_by_base_stats_(Generation_VII-present)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 04:20:00 No.31834972 Report

Quoted By: >>31834989

Amoongus has a higher attack than Talonflame.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 04:20:06 No.31834975 Report

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>>31834955
Here's a really depressing fact.
Lumineon has a base stat of 69 in its HP and both Offenses lol

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sun 19 Feb 2017 04:20:32 No.31834981 Report

Quoted By: >>31835787

Onix has higher attack than Meditite.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 04:21:04 No.31834989 Report

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>>31834972
And so does Meganium.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 04:21:31 No.31834992 Report

Quoted By: >>31835613

The entirety of fucking Alola's speed stat.
Goddamnit, Game Freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 04:23:50 No.31835012 Report

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Yanmega had the highest HP of any bug type at 86.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 04:24:55 No.31835024 Report

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>>31834955
How about a surprising one?

Miltank has the same base speed as Salamence

Back in gen V I had a joke team with a scarf miltank, seeing Miltank damages a Mence who then DD only to speed tie, gets hit again and fainted is priceless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 04:25:35 No.31835037 Report

Quoted By: >>31835047 >>31835635 >>31837721 >>31837748

There are a number of Pokemon ruined because Game Freak decided to try make them mixed attackers and screwed their other stats up in the process.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 04:26:32 No.31835047 Report

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>>31835037
>octillery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 04:29:35 No.31835081 Report

Quoted By: >>31835593

>>31834955
Onix and Wurmple has the same attack stat.

Also Onix is faster than Incineroar

ThatOneAnon

ThatOneAnon Sun 19 Feb 2017 05:15:36 No.31835593 Report

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>>31835081
Purugly is faster than 4/5 if the alola dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 05:17:37 No.31835613 Report

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>>31834992
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 05:18:42 No.31835635 Report

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>>31835037
Huge number

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 05:34:45 No.31835787 Report

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>>31834981
Luvdisk has higher special defence and speed than Alomomola.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 05:37:03 No.31835802 Report

Quoted By: >>31835823 >>31837185

>>31834955
>Squirtle and Vikavolt have the same base speed (43)

>Abra has a base Special Attack stat of 105. This higher than some fully evolved mons like Gothielle and Hypno, and ties with the Rotom forms.

>Despite people joking about it as frail, Hydreigon still boasts 92/90/90 defenses.

>Cutiefly has an Attack stat of 45, the same as Onix and 10 stat points higher than Ledian (35)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 05:38:49 No.31835823 Report

Quoted By: >>31836087

>>31835802
>Despite people joking about it as frail
Do people really do that though? I'm pretty sure calling Hydreigon shit is just a meme at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 06:07:05 No.31836087 Report

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>>31835823
it's only because "dude 4x fairy weakness lmao"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 06:14:14 No.31836134 Report

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>garchomp has 2 points taken from HP and put into speed
>hydreigon has 2 points taken from speed and put into HP

it's not fucking fair

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 06:19:34 No.31836177 Report

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Arcanine's BST is higher than some megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 06:41:43 No.31836303 Report

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Vikavolt is as slow as Guzzlord.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 06:48:26 No.31836339 Report

Quoted By: >>31836378 >>31837047

There are only six ice types faster than Garchomp. One of them is Arceus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 06:55:31 No.31836378 Report

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>>31836339
Given how few ice types there are that isn't even that bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 08:52:40 No.31837031 Report

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>>31834955
Magikarp has a higher base defense than Guzzlord.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 08:56:36 No.31837047 Report

Quoted By: >>31837082

>>31836339
>Using ice types to fight mons like mence, nite, chomp and lando. Nigga this is why ice beam is a common coverage move.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 08:59:31 No.31837063 Report

Quoted By: >>31837564

>Sharpedo has lower base Def and Sp.Def than Butterfree
>FUCKING BUTTERFREE

How the hell does a shark have lower defenses than a butterfly? It boggles the mind.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 09:03:50 No.31837082 Report

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>>31837047
>mfw normies try to greentext

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 09:19:18 No.31837151 Report

Quoted By: >>31837168

>The Pokemon world has Rhyhorn races as a sport
>Rhyhorn is actually one of the slowest Pokemon
>even Magcargo is faster than Rhyhorn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 09:20:50 No.31837155 Report

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>Jigglypuff has the same HP as Entei

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 09:23:31 No.31837167 Report

Quoted By: >>31837921

Beautifly has more Special Attack than Articuno.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 09:24:44 No.31837168 Report

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>>31837151
>Vikavolt is faster then Rhyhorn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 09:28:40 No.31837185 Report

Quoted By: >>31837470 >>31837589

>>31835802
Continuing on...

>Larvesta's base stat total is 360. This is 30 points HIGHER than Delibird's BST (330). Larvesta also boasts higher defenses all around with 55/55/55 compared to Delibird's 45/45/45, and that doesn't even include Eviolite shenanigans.

>Elekid and Electivire have the same base speed stat of 95.

>Nihilego's 47 base stat defense is lower than Magikarp (55 base stat defense)

>Of the original Gen 1 starters, Charmander had the lowest BST (309) and Bulbusaur had the highest (318).

>Komala's Attack base stat of 115 is higher than Lugia (90), Hawlucha (92), Tauros (100), Scyther (110), Aggron (110) and Kommo-o (110).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 10:14:52 No.31837397 Report

Quoted By: >>31837589

Dusknoir and Caterpie have the same base HP stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 10:33:07 No.31837470 Report

Quoted By: >>31837589 >>31837717

>>31837185
Magby and Magmortar also have the same speed. They're fast as fuck babies man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 10:55:42 No.31837564 Report

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>>31837063

Well if a shark was cut in half irl he'd have pretty bad time surviving in a fight

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 11:02:39 No.31837589 Report

Quoted By: >>31837694

>>31837397
That's depressing.
>>31837470
Interesting.

>>31837185
This is my last one for today.

>Pupitar, despite being in a cocoon like NFE state with no arms or legs, has a base speed stat of 51. This is higher than Vikavolt (43), Granbull (45), Conkeldurr (45), Lurantis (45), Mudsdale (35) and Araquanid (42).

>Spiritomb is no 108 in the Sinnoh Dex, weights 108 kilograms, and has 108 defense and special defense.

>Happiny has a base HP stat of 100. This is double Toxapex's base stat HP (50)

>Walrein has the same base stats as many starters, including Incineroar, Decidueye, Primarina, Blastoise, Blaziken and more (530).

>Kartana's Special Defense stat (31) is lower than Kricketot's (41) and only 1 point higher than Sunkern's (30).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 11:32:41 No.31837694 Report

Quoted By: >>31837704

>>31837589
I think it is said in Pupitar's description that it can move pretty fast by shooting air from it's holes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 11:35:54 No.31837704 Report

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>>31837694
>shooting air from its holes
B-B-BBRAAAAPPP!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 11:42:48 No.31837717 Report

Quoted By: >>31837986

>>31837470
To be fair kids are always bouncing off the fuckin' walls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 11:43:56 No.31837721 Report

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>>31835037
Almost uncountable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 11:50:14 No.31837748 Report

Quoted By: >>31837768

>>31835037
We call that Gen 3
>Blaziken
>Camerupt
>Sharpedo
>Cacturne
>Seviper
>Shiftry
>Absol
>Banette
>Wailord

Noticeably, they tried to buff MANY of them over time (Sharpedo got Speed Boost, a Mega and Aqua Jet for example)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 11:57:07 No.31837768 Report

Quoted By: >>31837862

>>31837748
Don't forget Sceptile. Amazing physical movepool, higher special attack. What other generations have mons infamous for those things? I know Decidueye, Incineroar, Kommo-o, Solgaleo and Lunala have mixed offences despite not needing them - Decidueye and Incineroar should've had less special attack and more speed, Kommo-o should've focused on one offence, and Solgaleo and Lunala should've had the offence they didn't rely on go into their weaker defence or speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 12:31:26 No.31837862 Report

Quoted By: >>31838363

>>31837768
To be fair, Sceptile was kinda good in gen III, it just got fucked by physical/special split.

And come on, it's not like running him physical is a showderp-tier meme, mega has 110 base attack, access to SD and STAB Outrage.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 12:42:33 No.31837921 Report

Quoted By: >>31838354

>>31837167
Articuno is one of the biggest victims of the special split. Used to hit like a truck while being bulky enough to shrug off Thunderbolts and Flamethrowers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 12:55:18 No.31837986 Report

Quoted By: >>31838309

>Poliwag, Pikachu and Meowth have base 90 speed
>Diglett has base 95 speed
>Voltorb has base 100 speed
Gen 1 pre-evos didn't fuck around.

>>31837717
Kids yeah but babies? I would think they're lacking in the mobile department.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 13:56:48 No.31838309 Report

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>>31837986
Abra's 105 spA and 90 speed is probably more competitvely viable than 2/3 of all evolved mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 14:06:22 No.31838354 Report

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>>31837921
I would also add in that Gyrados was probably the hardest hit, going from 100 Special to 60 Special Attack. In RBY, it could hit hard on BOTH ends with Thunderbolt, Fire Blast, Earthquake and Surf. It wouldn't be good again until Gen 4 where it finally got physical water moves. Chansey is also a bit of an odd case seeing as it went from 105 Special to 30(!) Special Attack, but Game Freak gave it an evo in Gen 2 to compensate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Feb 2017 14:07:58 No.31838363 Report

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>>31837862
Not to mention he has Work Up now so he can run dual offense sets.

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