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Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 00:17:47 No.31843637 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31843650 >>31843904 >>31844000 >>31845798 >>31845967 >>31849003 >>31850185 >>31850773 >>31858223 >>31859173 >>31859189 >>31861589

>Talonflame gone
>Quicker than and strong against fairy type Tapu's

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 00:19:33 No.31843650 Report

Quoted By: >>31844039 >>31849352 >>31862526

>>31843637
>slower than pheremosa
>can't hold an item so it's slower than lele

it's shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 00:39:30 No.31843904 Report

Quoted By: >>31843918 >>31861538

>>31843637
>Destroys all of the Tapus
>Outspeed most of the meta
>No Talonflame

Aside from being screwed over by scarf lele, priorities, celesteela, skarm and Landorus this thing is pretty much awesome.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 00:40:51 No.31843918 Report

Quoted By: >>31844009 >>31844203 >>31859162

>>31843904
>it's good if you ignore the biggest threats in the metagame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 00:42:18 No.31843934 Report

Quoted By: >>31848975

Why should I use it over Pheromosa?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 00:48:58 No.31844000 Report

Quoted By:

>>31843637
>Quicker than and strong against fairy type Tapu's
Lele typically runs scarf

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 00:49:36 No.31844009 Report

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>>31843918
That's why it has other teammates to deal with the stuff it can't otherwise

It even has Knock Off and Drill Run from previous gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 00:51:39 No.31844039 Report

Quoted By:

>>31843650
YOU'RE SHIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 01:01:51 No.31844203 Report

Quoted By: >>31845770 >>31849433

>>31843918
oh no celesteela/skarmory
>uturn away to magnezone
>faint celesteela/skarmory
>slow voltswitch back to beedrill

oh no tapu lele
>switch to muk
>lele is choice scarf trapped to psychic
>pursuit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 03:32:26 No.31845770 Report

Quoted By:

>>31844203
>playing smart

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 03:34:37 No.31845798 Report

Quoted By:

>>31843637
>Fell Stinger buff
This thing doesn't even need to run Protect anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 03:52:53 No.31845967 Report

Quoted By:

>>31843637
Lele's the likely check.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 12:14:11 No.31848975 Report

Quoted By:

>>31843934
STAB JAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 12:19:43 No.31849003 Report

Quoted By: >>31862749

>>31843637
>Mega Stone is only available via limited time distribution.

Why u do dis, Game Freak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 13:18:18 No.31849280 Report

Quoted By: >>31849443 >>31862749

Did i miss the mega stone distribution?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 13:34:13 No.31849352 Report

Quoted By: >>31849987 >>31850035 >>31850341

>>31843650
>>slower than pheremosa
There is nothing faster than Pheremosa

Drake Vix 2896-0973-0068

Drake Vix 2896-0973-0068 Mon 20 Feb 2017 13:51:25 No.31849433 Report

Quoted By: >>31850051

>>31844203
Pursuit is bad. You're better off using Poison Jab, or Knock Off if you predict a switch.

Hollywood 3798-0932-9714

Hollywood 3798-0932-9714 Mon 20 Feb 2017 13:53:30 No.31849443 Report

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>>31849280
Yes. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 15:13:54 No.31849987 Report

Quoted By: >>31850093 >>31860889

>>31849352
ninjask can outspeed and OHKO pheromosa

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 15:23:24 No.31850035 Report

Quoted By: >>31850093

>>31849352
Ninjask and Deoxys-S

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 15:25:31 No.31850051 Report

Quoted By: >>31850199

>>31849433

You're retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 15:31:47 No.31850093 Report

Quoted By: >>31850147

>>31849987
>>31850035
Nothing in OU that's viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 15:39:25 No.31850147 Report

Quoted By: >>31861794

>>31850093
>moving goalposts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 15:44:26 No.31850185 Report

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>>31843637
Fell Stinger buff too.
Will still struggle against Celesteela and friends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 15:46:17 No.31850199 Report

Quoted By: >>31853825 >>31854166

>>31850051
>pursuit on fairy type
>not just knocking off an item for incoming mon
dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 15:47:33 No.31850213 Report

Quoted By: >>31850302 >>31861538

Does Lele really carry choice scarf that often?

I wanted to really incorporate m beedrill in my team, so I guess I'll have to beware of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 15:53:08 No.31850276 Report

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So what you're telling me is that it's okay to run adamant on mega beedrill because pheromosa/lele outspeed anyway, and who cares about outspeeding mega alakazam because who uses that shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 15:56:58 No.31850302 Report

Quoted By: >>31850444 >>31853664

>>31850213
It's basically become the only Lele set

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 16:01:30 No.31850341 Report

Quoted By: >>31850389 >>31854911

>>31849352
exactly. Why use a slower mon when you can use a mon that is not slower and overall more useful? what's the point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 16:05:28 No.31850389 Report

Quoted By: >>31850449 >>31850456 >>31853540

>>31850341

Huh. I never realized how pheromosa is basically a better mega beedrill. Mega beedrill's uturn/poison jab probably hit harder, but pheromosa isn't weak to stealth rocks and has ice beam/high jump kick as well

Drake Vix 2896-0973-0068

Drake Vix 2896-0973-0068 Mon 20 Feb 2017 16:12:08 No.31850444 Report

Quoted By: >>31850460

>>31850302
Not true, I very often see LO and Specs variants. I also see Psychium-Z often. (Rated Battles)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 16:12:41 No.31850449 Report

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>>31850389
Pheremosa's Bug Buzz/U-turn/Poison jab can easily become more powerful depending on your choice of item and/or what stats it gains from Beast Boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 16:13:54 No.31850456 Report

Quoted By: >>31850460

>>31850389
No Fell Stinger revenge kills for earth-shattering sweeps though. Considering you'll have a really hard time getting a Quiver Dance off without dying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 16:14:36 No.31850460 Report

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>>31850444
What exactly does Shattered Psyche kill that Psychic/Psyshock/Moonblast/Twinkle Tackle fails against?

It's not like anyone is stupid enough to switch in their Mega Venusaur or whatever on a Psychic type

>>31850456
Beast Boost is infinitely more reliable than Meme Stinger

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 16:21:33 No.31850502 Report

Quoted By: >>31850537 >>31854116

Do I seriously have to stat pheromosa so that it gets speed beast boosts? Seems like such a waste, what choice scarfers would even be a big deal to a 252 speed modest pheromosa?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 16:26:45 No.31850537 Report

Quoted By: >>31854116

>>31850502
882 / Pheromosa / 151 / +Spe / 252 / +2
802 / Pheromosa / 151 / Neutral / 252 / +2
736 / Hawlucha / 118 / +Spe / 252 / +2
710 / Scolipede / 112 / +Spe / 252 / +2
706 / Tornadus / 111 / +Spe / 252 / +2 (Tailwind)
700 / Metagross (Mega), Raichu (Alola) / 110 / +Spe / 252 / +2
678 / Sharpedo (Mega) / 105 / +Spe / 252 / +2
661 / Pheromosa / 151 / +Spe / 252 / +1
656 / Charizard (Mega-X), Salamence, Volcarona / 100 / +Spe / 252 / +2
638 / Metagross (Mega), Raichu (Alola) / 110 / Neutral / 252 / +2
630 / Terrakion / 108 / Neutral / 252 / +2
620 / Charizard (Mega-X), Volcarona / +Spe / 184 / +2
618 / Sharpedo (Mega) / Neutral / 252 / +2
618 / Landorus-Therian / +Spe / 91 / +2
612 / Lucario / +Spe / 90 / +2
606 / Metagross (Mega), Raichu (Alola) / 110 / Neutral / 188 / +2
604 / Excadrill / 88 / +Spe / 252 / +2

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 16:53:23 No.31850773 Report

Quoted By:

>>31843637
Don't forget
>Gets the Mega stats immediately upon mega evolving so it doesn't even need protect anymore
>Fell stinger got a massive buff. So that on top of adaptability can make it fucking deadly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 21:50:00 No.31853540 Report

Quoted By:

>>31850389
>high jump miss

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 22:04:15 No.31853664 Report

Quoted By:

>>31850302
you're a fucking tard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 22:20:12 No.31853811 Report

Quoted By:

What about the Tailwind set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 22:22:34 No.31853825 Report

Quoted By: >>31854166

>>31850199
>Not getting massive damage on a huge threat to your team
dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 22:51:07 No.31854116 Report

Quoted By:

>>31850502
>>31850537
Don't forget rain teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Feb 2017 22:54:59 No.31854166 Report

Quoted By:

>>31850199
>>31853825
fucking rekt

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 00:09:54 No.31854911 Report

Quoted By: >>31854933

>>31850341
BECAUSE EVERY MEGA IN EVERY OU GAME IS EITHER METAGROSS OR SCIZOR. FUCK THAT SHIT, WHEN THE FUCK IS LELE GETTING SUSPECTED?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 00:12:09 No.31854933 Report

Quoted By: >>31855158

>>31854911
Calm down, Mawile will be here soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 00:35:16 No.31855158 Report

Quoted By: >>31858230 >>31864532

>>31854933
Mega-Mawile is even worse than Lele.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 05:55:07 No.31858223 Report

Quoted By: >>31858586 >>31858608

>>31843637
Was this thing ever good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 05:57:47 No.31858230 Report

Quoted By: >>31858924

>>31855158
>Garchomp used Earthquake

nothing personnel kid, get faster next time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 07:04:34 No.31858586 Report

Quoted By:

>>31858223
The only thing holding it back was that it was forced to run Protect because speed was fucked up on megas last gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 07:08:00 No.31858608 Report

Quoted By:

>>31858223
It was UU last gen, so yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 07:14:59 No.31858662 Report

Quoted By:

I can't wait to see mega Swampert + Pelipper, especially in VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 07:16:50 No.31858681 Report

Quoted By:

Butterfree should of gotten a mega...A real status shooting tank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 07:54:02 No.31858924 Report

Quoted By: >>31859059

>>31858230
>252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mawile-Mega in Grassy Terrain: 134-162 (44 - 53.2%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
Bulu might be a common teammate for Mawile. Giving it only one weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 08:20:41 No.31859059 Report

Quoted By:

>>31858924
Is bulu common with magearna atm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 08:46:52 No.31859162 Report

Quoted By:

>>31843918
At least they don't post underwear-less whores.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 08:49:48 No.31859173 Report

Quoted By:

>>31843637
GIGA
DRILL
BREAKURRRRRRRRRR

Its finally my bro's time to shine, I was always made fun of for saying weedle was my favorite when I was a kid but who's laughing now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 08:57:29 No.31859189 Report

Quoted By: >>31859201 >>31859218 >>31860341

>>31843637
>Beedrill gets Quiver Dance

How does this change the meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 09:01:10 No.31859201 Report

Quoted By:

>>31859189
It doesn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 09:05:28 No.31859218 Report

Quoted By:

>>31859189
>Beedrill gets Quiver Dance

Oh boy! Now Mega Beedrill can really make use of its base 15 SpAtk! Ubers, here we come!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 14:16:46 No.31860341 Report

Quoted By: >>31861771

>>31859189
if it get pollen puff it become a fucking wall attacker attack of attackers. and a wall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 15:47:11 No.31860889 Report

Quoted By: >>31860914

>>31849987

>Implying that something cannot Ohko Pheromosa

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 15:49:58 No.31860914 Report

Quoted By: >>31861500 >>31861527

>>31860889
specs weedle cant

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:05:29 No.31861500 Report

Quoted By:

>>31860914
>252+ SpA Weedle Hidden Power Flying vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Pheromosa: 268-316 (94.6 - 111.6%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:07:37 No.31861527 Report

Quoted By: >>31861546 >>31861566

>>31860914
>252+ SpA Choice Specs Weedle Hidden Power Flying vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Pheromosa: 400-472 (141.3 - 166.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Checkmate, atheists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:09:15 No.31861538 Report

Quoted By: >>31861567

>>31843904
>>31850213
If you're feeling confident as fuck, use Knock Off on the Lele switch in. Allows you to then outspeed and Jab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:10:07 No.31861546 Report

Quoted By: >>31861566

>>31861527
>special weedle
>hp flying
is this the power of autism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:13:27 No.31861566 Report

Quoted By: >>31862716

>>31861527
this is honestly pathetic

>>31861546
I did say specs weedle

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:13:27 No.31861567 Report

Quoted By:

>>31861538
People with a functional brain wouldn't even switch Lele into Beedrill. Unless Swords Dance Beedrill would be considered viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:16:53 No.31861589 Report

Quoted By: >>31861604

>>31843637
Just needs Twineedle buffed to 60 BP

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:18:51 No.31861604 Report

Quoted By: >>31861864

>>31861589
why not just give mega beedrill technician while we're at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:37:06 No.31861771 Report

Quoted By:

>>31860341
Your post made me infinitely more retarded. Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:39:31 No.31861794 Report

Quoted By: >>31861847

>>31850147
that's not moving the goalpost you fucking downie, Pheromosa is a OU mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:44:55 No.31861846 Report

Quoted By:

>specs weedle will see more usage in OU than mega beedrill

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:44:58 No.31861847 Report

Quoted By:

>>31861794
that doesn't mean you can't use ninjask you fucking mongoloid. You said nothing outspeeds pheromosa, and there are 2 pokemon that do, dipshit. You said nothing about OU, so yeah, you are moving the goalpost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 17:47:35 No.31861864 Report

Quoted By:

>>31861604
Its better off with Adaptability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 18:30:15 No.31862219 Report

Quoted By: >>31862328 >>31862535

will a mega beedrill with life orb work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 18:40:17 No.31862328 Report

Quoted By:

>>31862219
It's still not as good as slowbro with eviolite

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:00:49 No.31862526 Report

Quoted By: >>31862555 >>31862717 >>31866934

>>31843650
What's Pheromosa gonna do once it outspeeds, though? It's not like HJK will beat the quad resist, U-Turn won't do diddly squat, either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:01:51 No.31862535 Report

Quoted By: >>31862875

>>31862219
Oh, yes, definitely. Good thing megas can hold items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:03:30 No.31862555 Report

Quoted By: >>31862647

>>31862526
50%. It's gonna do 50%

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:15:13 No.31862647 Report

Quoted By:

>>31862555
And then beedrill OHKOs one of the most important Pokemon on any team. It's certainly not a counter or even a check to M-Beedrill. Maybe if it was bug/flying and took 50% from SR, but otherwise it's trash. M-Pinsir would be a better counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:22:33 No.31862716 Report

Quoted By: >>31862863

>>31861566
Weedle doesn't get hp flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:22:33 No.31862717 Report

Quoted By: >>31862922

>>31862526
>U-Turn won't do diddly squat, either

252 Atk Life Orb Pheromosa U-turn vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Beedrill-Mega: 156-183 (57.5 - 67.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:25:48 No.31862749 Report

Quoted By:

>>31849003
>>31849280
All Mega Stones will be available to everyone
The competition just gives it to people early and sign-ups are still open

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:41:14 No.31862863 Report

Quoted By:

>>31862716
>tfw forgot the shitty movepool some NFEs have
I went full retard, sorry. I probably would've even believed magikarp could use aerial ace

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:42:33 No.31862875 Report

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>>31862535
Yeah I know, fantastic isn't it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:45:54 No.31862922 Report

Quoted By: >>31862948

>>31862717
That IS diddly squat to a fragile sweeper like Beedrill. Beedrill just proceeds to OHKO Pheromosa and move on to the rest of the team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 19:49:30 No.31862948 Report

Quoted By: >>31864552

>>31862922
Well, fug, that's right. Switching from U-Turn, I suppose. Still, it'll hit whatever switches in damn hard and can easily switch out. I guess Ash-Grenigger would be a good teammate to deal with non-special Pheromosas.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 22:28:59 No.31864532 Report

Quoted By: >>31864727

>>31855158
mawile is cute! CUTE!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 22:30:59 No.31864552 Report

Quoted By: >>31867280

>>31862948
Switch into Lando-T or chomp and the beedrill is basically useless

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Feb 2017 22:45:42 No.31864727 Report

Quoted By: >>31866815

>>31864532
Mawile a shit.
A SHIT.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:06:37 No.31866815 Report

Quoted By:

>>31864727
>putting saliva on Mawile's horns

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:16:51 No.31866934 Report

Quoted By:

>>31862526
what the fuck are you even talking about
Lele doesn't resist Poison Jab you stupid retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Feb 2017 02:49:33 No.31867280 Report

Quoted By:

>>31864552
>revealing your sweeper before taking out lando-t (which is very easy)

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