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ITT: Make Walrein viable

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 02:41:12 No.31887923 View View Reply Original Report

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Buff this miserable excuse for 530 bst without creating a new ability or access to Incognito Icicles. Giving it an alola form or a mega is allowed.
Hard mode: Viable in both 6v6 and Doubles
Very Hard: It keeps the Ice-type
Dante Must Die: No weather ability or Intimidate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 02:58:40 No.31888140 Report

Quoted By: >>31888498 >>31888520

>>31887923
Freeze-Dry, for one. Slack Off, for two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:00:07 No.31888155 Report

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>>31887923
i fucking hate gen 3 and its philosophy of making fucking everything a mixed attacker

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:28:14 No.31888452 Report

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>>31887923
Alolan-Walrein
Type: Water/Ground
Abilities: Thick Fat / Sand Force
Hidden Ability: Huge Power

HP: 145
Attack: 55
Defense: 105
Sp. Attack: 55
Sp. Defense: 115
Speed: 45
BST: 530

Dex: A breed of Walrein that migrated to Alola beaches because of their diminishing habitat. Because of the warmer climate, they have shed their ice tusks and evolved new trunks for land communication.

1 Growl
1 Headbutt
1 Defense Curl
1 Helping Hand
1 Stealth Rocks
7 Rollout
7 Encore
13 Take Down
17 Brine
19 Muddy Water
25 Body Slam
31 Magnitude
38 Slack Off
49 Knock Off
55 Liquidation
60 Earthquake

Same TMs as regular Walrein

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:29:33 No.31888468 Report

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>>31888155
blame the pig disgusting lack of physical/special split

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TopKec !UNSTjHdDlA Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:30:10 No.31888472 Report

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I doubt it would help its viability, but I was halfway hoping for a regional variant of Walrein based on the Dingonek. Could be Grass/Poison. Seems cool to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:33:45 No.31888498 Report

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>>31888140
This.

Make Ice resist Ground, Flying, Water and Fairy.

Also loses Ice Body for Simple.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:36:49 No.31888512 Report

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>>31888155
Hey, at least it's better than gen 2's philosophy of "let's make everything outright shitty"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:38:10 No.31888520 Report

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>>31888140
>>31888498
>Simple, Stockpile, Slack off

Wew lad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:41:48 No.31888547 Report

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>>31887923
>Make Walrein viable

Fuck you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:45:29 No.31888579 Report

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>>31888547
>Thick Fat Gardevoir

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:45:32 No.31888582 Report

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Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:46:52 No.31888593 Report

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>>31887923
WTF it's 530 BST?

I always thought it was one of those 400 BST shitmons,,, well now I know it's a 500+ BST shitmon

needed:
>some recovery
>freeze-dry
>mega:
Walrein-Mega
>Ability: Thick Fat
HP: 110
Attack: 80
Defense: 90 ->120
Sp. Atk: 95 ->130
Sp. Def: 90 ->120
Speed: 65

Bulky AF tank

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:49:04 No.31888612 Report

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>>31888547
>Gayrados that is male
>Somehow fell in love with a female

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:53:24 No.31888641 Report

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>>31887923

>without access to Incognito Icicles

Access to Inconspicuous Icebergs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:56:20 No.31888658 Report

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Swallow now always restores 50% of the user's health, then consumes a single Stockpile if it exists to restore another 50%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 03:56:47 No.31888662 Report

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>>31888612
Is this bait?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 04:09:48 No.31888773 Report

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>>31887923
Mega Walrein
Ability: Misty Surge (You only said no Weather)
-20 Speed, +70 Def, +50 SpD
Gains Wide Guard, Defog and Slack Off

How'd I do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 04:12:09 No.31888788 Report

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>>31887923
Alright OP, I took a good hard look at Walrein and this is the best I can come up with that I think is realistic.

First of all its Attack and Special Attack need to be swapped. I think it must be a special attacker because of the lack of physical/special split? That's what it seems like. Its design centers around its tusks and it makes more sense that way.

Second off, replace its HA with Refrigerate OR Sheer Force. On the one hand, Refrigerate just seems more fitting, and it means your Body Slams do much more damage. On the other hand, Sheer Force would boost all those Ice moves that have such a low chance of freezing it doesn't matter anyway.

I didn't look at moves. Also I would give it Slush Rush, but it's way too slow for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 04:24:21 No.31888876 Report

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>>31888547
reminder this walrein still lurks the facilities to this day

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 04:35:11 No.31888961 Report

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>>31888641
>Access to Inconspicuous Icebergs
Access to Frosted Flakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 08:52:43 No.31890186 Report

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>>31887923
It's main downfall as a wall is a lack of Scald and a lack of recovery, so giving it those two things would at least make it usable in a lower tier. To make it actually good, you'd also need Freeze Dry and an ability like Filter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 09:48:09 No.31890333 Report

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>>31888547
reminded me of that one showderp match when they managed to 6-0 with a Sheer Cold Kyogre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 09:49:11 No.31890337 Report

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>>31888662
Read the name once again but slowly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 09:54:23 No.31890362 Report

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>>31887923
Give it No Guard and a choice scarf

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Feb 2017 10:18:57 No.31890441 Report

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>>31887923
It's pretty easy making it viable but not plain broken.

>movepool:
- Slack Off
- Ice Shard (from Dewgong)
- Aqua Jet (from Dewgong & co)

*Dewgong receives Belly Drum from Walrein

There, both have something more over Lapras or Mega Glalie & other similar mons.
They'd need to risk the Salac Berry range or locked into shallow movepools balancing Belly Drum, also +6 STAB 40BP priorities aren't hard to handle from those two mons.

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