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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:36:57 No.31899604 View View Reply Original Report

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Here is your precious meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:38:16 No.31899608 Report

Quoted By: >>31899613

>dugtrio
>only in A rank
>getting suspect tested before fucking Greninja, Landorus, and MegaMeta

the madmen actually did it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:39:52 No.31899613 Report

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>>31899608
But muh stall tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:41:35 No.31899621 Report

Quoted By: >>31900955 >>31901629 >>31904525

>>31899604
It's still surprising to see Pelipper there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:43:17 No.31899630 Report

Quoted By: >>31900956

>>31899604
>Gliscor is B rank
>It's UU
>Breloom is B- rank
>It's OU
what the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:44:00 No.31899631 Report

Quoted By: >>31899664 >>31899667 >>31899765 >>31899981

Practically speaking, what are viability rankings actually *for*?

Like, are they meant to be there to give new players an idea of where to start and what they need to counter? Are they to give a better idea of what should be suspect tested? Or are they just there to provide a discussion point as people bitch about how something is only C rank even though they used it successfully once?

It understand the point of tiers because they create multiple, more balanced metagames, but categorisation within categorisation just seems unnecessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:48:35 No.31899651 Report

Quoted By:

>>31899604
Does this upset you somehow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:50:28 No.31899660 Report

Quoted By:

>>31899604

i fail to see a problem. perhaps youd be happier watching verlisify videos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:51:12 No.31899664 Report

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>>31899631
The point of viability ranking is mostly to promote discussion about the meta , but they also are a quick way for new players to understand which pokemon are the major threats and which pokemon have niches in the tier despite not being there by usage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:51:35 No.31899665 Report

Quoted By: >>31899669

>>31899604
Is that mew with or without Genesis Supernova?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:52:56 No.31899667 Report

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>>31899631
To give smogoners something to circlejerk about for the rest of the generation

Also because other competitive games are doing it and Pokemon main line got reduced into an espurrt for tryhard now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:53:58 No.31899669 Report

Quoted By: >>31899675

>>31899665
Doesn't matter since Genesis Supernova is shit to begin with

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:54:34 No.31899672 Report

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>>31899604
Healthier than I thought

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 08:55:36 No.31899675 Report

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>>31899669
Oh, i though it was banned from UU

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 09:00:22 No.31899686 Report

Quoted By: >>31899723 >>31899895

I wish there was a magnet pull like ability that only worked on lando

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 09:13:19 No.31899723 Report

Quoted By: >>31899803 >>31905525

>>31899686
>Current presence
>All flying type pokemon get caught by the user's strong winds, causing them to be trapped in tthe field as long as the user is out too.
Now, what kind of pokemon could get this ability?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 09:26:23 No.31899765 Report

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>>31899631
>In this thread, we as a community will rank every single usable Pokemon into "tiers." In this thread, you're encouraged to post your thoughts and opinions on the various Pokemon that are usable in OU and what tier they should fall under

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 09:37:32 No.31899803 Report

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>>31899723
That sounds like a fug ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 10:16:31 No.31899895 Report

Quoted By:

>>31899686
>landorus-therian used u-turn!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 10:43:51 No.31899981 Report

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>>31899631

Viability rankings also map the development of the meta. They're a way to show how the meta is changing, which mons are currently good, whoch are falling off, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 10:45:13 No.31899985 Report

Quoted By: >>31899995 >>31900007 >>31901387

Explain me how something that as a lower rank get's suspected tested or even banned but not the higher ranked mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 10:50:27 No.31899995 Report

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>>31899985
Arena Trap

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 10:52:03 No.31900007 Report

Quoted By: >>31905759 >>31907431

>>31899985
s-rank are just all around good and can be slapped onto pretty much any team without a second thought

dugtrio only got a niche, but it's broken there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 10:54:44 No.31900014 Report

Quoted By: >>31900036 >>31900136

Why is Mega Alakazam that high?
Because there's nothing better to use?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 11:01:08 No.31900036 Report

Quoted By: >>31900104 >>31900136

>>31900014

It's fast and powerful, has decent coverage. Lele's Psychic Terrain turns it into a nuke, and Trace is great for all of the useful abilites in OU. Beast Boost, Intimidate, Regenerator, etc.

Someone else could probably post a better reasoning, but that's the basics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 11:02:16 No.31900040 Report

Quoted By: >>31901145

>Gyarados and Greninja are higher ranked than Mega Gyarados and Ash-Greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 11:05:54 No.31900046 Report

Quoted By: >>31900119 >>31901156 >>31901160

What about usage rating atm? Is it still +10% for koko, lele, mega meta, ash-gre, landorus-T, Garchomp etc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 11:30:49 No.31900104 Report

Quoted By: >>31901247

>>31900036
Do you have to use it with Psychic Terrain?
Seems pretty pointless to have both Lele and Alakazam on the team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 11:35:18 No.31900119 Report

Quoted By: >>31900183 >>31900658

>>31900046
Landorus has almost 50% usage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 11:41:19 No.31900136 Report

Quoted By: >>31900928

>>31900014
>>31900036
Finally got the +10 BST buff too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 11:56:44 No.31900183 Report

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>>31900119
Fucking hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 13:53:06 No.31900658 Report

Quoted By: >>31900885 >>31900917 >>31900932 >>31900938

>>31900119
I don't get it, how fucking hard is it to run coverage Ice moves? Or Defiant/Competitive to counter Intimidate spam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 14:34:21 No.31900877 Report

Quoted By: >>31900958

>>31899604
gengar still A rank with the nerf? pretty cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 14:36:10 No.31900885 Report

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>>31900658
Landrous is just that good my dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 14:38:11 No.31900893 Report

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>>31899604
I can't wait for Mimikyu to drop. It has no business in this tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 14:42:08 No.31900917 Report

Quoted By: >>31907460 >>31907486 >>31907950

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 14:45:11 No.31900928 Report

Quoted By: >>31904279 >>31904386

>>31900136
yeah that +10 sp.def is really pushing it into the "great mega" territory. seriously your post is absolute shit and worthless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 14:45:58 No.31900932 Report

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>>31900658
It's more like its counters can't switch in safely because of how much power it has and it could even U-Turn away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 14:46:57 No.31900938 Report

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>>31900658
because of Z moves a lot of the things that could switch in on it reliably, can't anymore. Even fucking skarmory loses to SD+Z-Stone edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 14:50:51 No.31900955 Report

Quoted By:

>>31899621
It's good for making Ash-Greninja donk things

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 14:50:54 No.31900956 Report

Quoted By:

>>31899630

teams in UU can't handle spore as well, it doesn't help that breloom is a pretty strong on top of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 14:50:57 No.31900958 Report

Quoted By:

>>31900877
Lots of fairies plus a lack of good ghost resists means Gengar is still really useful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 14:57:59 No.31900996 Report

Quoted By: >>31901005

>Kabutops
>Omastar

Since when are they good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 14:59:34 No.31901005 Report

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>>31900996
Since rain teams

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 15:16:43 No.31901089 Report

Quoted By:

>>31899604
>mega metagross is in S rank
always love when my bro is at the top

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 15:29:03 No.31901145 Report

Quoted By:

>>31900040
Greninja is better mostly BECAUSE Ash-Greninja is a such a threat.
The moment Ash-Gren get Gunk shot too it's getting S tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 15:33:15 No.31901156 Report

Quoted By:

>>31900046
Top 20 in pokebank OU 1695 as of January

| 1 | Landorus-Therian | 44.05099% | 544424 | 23.843% | 462067 | 27.122% |
| 2 | Tapu Fini | 31.76686% | 402456 | 17.625% | 325555 | 19.109% |
| 3 | Metagross-Mega | 28.53920% | 372137 | 16.298% | 273399 | 16.048% |
| 4 | Tapu Lele | 23.61763% | 364613 | 15.968% | 252754 | 14.836% |
| 5 | Greninja-Ash | 19.86136% | 367714 | 16.104% | 275500 | 16.171% |
| 6 | Magearna | 16.95579% | 215720 | 9.447% | 167266 | 9.818% |
| 7 | Tapu Koko | 15.47157% | 315075 | 13.799% | 238517 | 14.000% |
| 8 | Pheromosa | 14.64295% | 239025 | 10.468% | 178396 | 10.471% |
| 9 | Garchomp | 13.42235% | 268361 | 11.753% | 204637 | 12.012% |
| 10 | Heatran | 13.11447% | 217736 | 9.536% | 176058 | 10.334% |
| 11 | Ferrothorn | 12.04493% | 194865 | 8.534% | 166936 | 9.799% |
| 12 | Tapu Bulu | 10.98135% | 188575 | 8.259% | 138053 | 8.103% |
| 13 | Magnezone | 10.81330% | 205930 | 9.019% | 159017 | 9.334% |
| 14 | Excadrill | 10.37859% | 148758 | 6.515% | 111111 | 6.522% |
| 15 | Marowak-Alola | 10.29797% | 279898 | 12.258% | 208961 | 12.266% |
| 16 | Dugtrio | 10.01465% | 99509 | 4.358% | 72391 | 4.249% |
| 17 | Scizor-Mega | 9.58653% | 190166 | 8.328% | 144457 | 8.479% |
| 18 | Celesteela | 9.31724% | 210023 | 9.198% | 162342 | 9.529% |
| 19 | Toxapex | 8.92878% | 229929 | 10.070% | 172838 | 10.145% |
| 20 | Greninja | 8.63762% | 135661 | 5.941% | 100385 | 5.892% |

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 15:34:31 No.31901160 Report

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Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 15:38:43 No.31901179 Report

Quoted By: >>31901377

>>31901160
>8 steel types
damn does it feel good to be a steelfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 15:50:48 No.31901247 Report

Quoted By:

>>31900104

You don't even have to use Lele since everyone else is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 15:56:17 No.31901281 Report

Quoted By: >>31901303 >>31901378

holy fuck Clefable and Azumarill got shit on, what happened? Steel types reigning supreme?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 16:01:57 No.31901303 Report

Quoted By:

>>31901281
Better Fairies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 16:12:51 No.31901377 Report

Quoted By:

>>31901179
Well, Steel is an OP defensive typing despite loosing 2 resists for a new one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 16:12:52 No.31901378 Report

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>>31901281

Clefable was S rank last gen because it was one of the best Fairies available in a gen where all of the Fairies were mediocre. It's a good jack of trades, but now we have a bunch of good Fairies that have better stats, more clearly defined niches, etc.

Lele and Toxapex probably had a lot to do with Azumarill dropping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 16:14:07 No.31901387 Report

Quoted By:

>>31899985
S rank is for pokemon that you can slap on any team and be useful.
Dugtrio is pretty shit outside of stall.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 16:42:43 No.31901557 Report

Quoted By: >>31901966

>95% accurate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 16:55:59 No.31901629 Report

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>>31899621
Automatic rain and Tailwind turn 1 is fantastic setup for doubles, or even singles. If your opponent isn't leading with Electric, you have a chance to sweep off hurricane + surf / hydro pump, and it's a easy switch in against earthquakes.

I run one in my water monotype team, along with a Volt absorb lanturn when I suspect lightning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 17:41:58 No.31901966 Report

Quoted By: >>31902160

>>31901557
>Focus Punch
>ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 17:55:40 No.31902075 Report

Quoted By: >>31902152 >>31905816

>>31899604
>caring about OU in any gen past gen4

baka

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 18:06:35 No.31902152 Report

Quoted By:

>>31902075
You cared enough to come into this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 18:07:58 No.31902160 Report

Quoted By:

>>31901966
>not knowing about sub-punch mawile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:28:55 No.31904227 Report

Quoted By: >>31910356

Anyone else noticed decidueye over there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:31:23 No.31904258 Report

Quoted By:

>>31899604
>Top Kek as viable as Top Lel
Really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:33:07 No.31904279 Report

Quoted By:

>>31900928
what

calm down

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:36:19 No.31904310 Report

Quoted By: >>31905924

>>31899604
>Xurkitree C rank
>4.8% usage
Is Xurk the Electivire of gen 7?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:38:37 No.31904338 Report

Quoted By: >>31904346 >>31904360 >>31904370

>Tapu Bulu above Tapu Fini

Now I just know this list is bullshit. Fini is fucking EVERYWHERE and insanely strong, way better than Bulu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:39:33 No.31904346 Report

Quoted By: >>31904352

>>31904338
Are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:40:11 No.31904352 Report

Quoted By: >>31904370 >>31904381

>>31904346
No, are you? In what world is Bulu better than Fini?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:40:37 No.31904360 Report

Quoted By: >>31904370 >>31910327

>>31904338
This, it's really weird.
I'm never worried about Bulu, he's strong but manageable. Every time I see Fini I just go "oh for fuck's sake".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:41:43 No.31904370 Report

Quoted By: >>31904383 >>31904401

>>31904338
>>31904352
>>31904360
The ranks are in alphabetical order you dumb fucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:42:47 No.31904381 Report

Quoted By: >>31904401

>>31904352
Bulu is not better than Fini, they're on the same tier but in alphabetical order

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:42:52 No.31904383 Report

Quoted By:

>>31904370
It's weird that they're even in the same tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:43:13 No.31904386 Report

Quoted By:

>>31900928
>Second best Mega in the tier
>Not great
Haha wow you are retarded. What else do you want?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:44:02 No.31904401 Report

Quoted By:

>>31904381
>>31904370
Okay, okay. My mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:55:05 No.31904525 Report

Quoted By: >>31904566

>>31899621
Imagine going back in time a year and saying that Pelipper was going to be better than Talonflame in S/M.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 21:59:07 No.31904566 Report

Quoted By: >>31904588

>>31904525
>Marowak will be OU! Along with Pelipper. Did I mention people will be using Magnet as a hold item on one of OU's top mons? Also, people will be running Fly on Landorus and Solarbeam on Heatran!

This meta really is fucking bizarre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:01:12 No.31904588 Report

Quoted By: >>31904593 >>31904603

>>31904566
>people will be using Magnet as a hold item on one of OU's top mons
wait really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:01:39 No.31904593 Report

Quoted By: >>31904658

>>31904588
koko

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:02:28 No.31904603 Report

Quoted By: >>31904658

>>31904588
Tapu Koko, so it doesn't kill itself via MUHMENTUM with life orb

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:06:45 No.31904658 Report

Quoted By: >>31904717

>>31904593
>>31904603
What the fuck has the meta come to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:12:36 No.31904717 Report

Quoted By: >>31904790 >>31904810

>>31904658
It's because of Alola Marowak which makes it want to u-turn so hard that it will u-turn on Pelipper and Gyarados

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:19:49 No.31904790 Report

Quoted By: >>31904807 >>31904814 >>31904835

>>31904717
>Marowak is so strong it forces a pseudo legendary to use magnet to u-turn into Pelliper every time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:21:13 No.31904804 Report

Quoted By:

i was pissed because mawile wasn't up there but then i forgot it's legally unobtainable right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:21:22 No.31904807 Report

Quoted By:

>>31904790
>koko
>psuedo
It's a sub-legendary you pleb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:21:40 No.31904810 Report

Quoted By:

>>31904717
MUHmentum

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:21:56 No.31904814 Report

Quoted By:

>>31904790
It's more Dugtrio than Marowak, people started running U-Turn because Dugtrio trapped and killed Koko.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:23:02 No.31904832 Report

Quoted By: >>31904842

>>31899604
I thought Gengar was in UU. Clearly a change in ability doesn't stop this ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:23:24 No.31904835 Report

Quoted By:

>>31904790
It's not that strong, it's just Koko has nothing to deal with Marowak unless it wants to carry hidden power ground just for Marowak even though hidden power ice is much more useful for it, and Volt Switching when there's a Marowak on the team is basically code for "Please give me a free Shadow Bone to the face on one of my pokemon"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:24:18 No.31904842 Report

Quoted By:

>>31904832
Gengar IS UU, it just sees use in OU, probably to dump on Fini, which is the second most popular pokemon atm if I remember right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:26:11 No.31904867 Report

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>>31899604
>Talonflame is C-
s-still the bravest b-bird

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 22:51:25 No.31905116 Report

Quoted By: >>31905237

How good will it be when it's stone releases?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:03:26 No.31905237 Report

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>>31905116

Rain teams are everywhere right now with Pelipper even being in OU. I think it would be a great addition to rain teams.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:11:37 No.31905346 Report

Quoted By: >>31905365 >>31905388 >>31905468 >>31905645

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:13:33 No.31905365 Report

Quoted By: >>31905400

>>31905346
Megagross got the speed change thing upon mega evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:15:24 No.31905388 Report

Quoted By:

>>31905346
You should use a different color for unbanned and given new stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:16:03 No.31905400 Report

Quoted By:

>>31905365
That is a very good point I hadn't even considered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:22:27 No.31905468 Report

Quoted By:

>>31905346
Z moves helped lando-t a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:24:16 No.31905490 Report

Quoted By:

Are things any different in doubles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:26:24 No.31905525 Report

Quoted By:

>>31899723

Tornadus :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:33:58 No.31905645 Report

Quoted By: >>31906694

>>31905346
>Bloom Doom isn't a new tool for heatran

nice meme, retard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:34:05 No.31905646 Report

Quoted By: >>31905679 >>31905728 >>31906589 >>31907158

Fuck it, I made it more detailed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:36:21 No.31905679 Report

Quoted By: >>31905737

>>31905646
>Not putting blue dots on the pokemon that were given new tools despite mentioning the new tools

what are you doing nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:41:53 No.31905728 Report

Quoted By:

>>31905646
Do this
Red: Unbanned
Blue: New Pokemon
Green: New Move (i.e. Z-Move), Ability or Forme
Yellow: Other (e.g.e Mega Meta and Mega Zam's speed buffs)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:43:04 No.31905737 Report

Quoted By: >>31905852

>>31905679
I don't feel like Z-Moves should be included in the 'New tools' because they're either too widely distributed (Any Pokemon with Stone Edge or Fly can use those Z-moves), perform the same role a different item did in Gen 6 (Power Herb Solar Beam vs Z-Solar Beam), and because they were already top tier in Gen 6 which defeats the purpose of a chart showing what Gen 7 did to the rankings list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:45:13 No.31905759 Report

Quoted By: >>31905786

>>31900007
Tbh I don't think dug is only good as a trapkiller in stall teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:48:00 No.31905786 Report

Quoted By: >>31905855

>>31905759
Dugtrio is outclassed in every role other than being a trapper.
Its only viable roles are Trapper/Revenge Killer (Offense) and Trapper (Stall).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:51:53 No.31905816 Report

Quoted By: >>31905860

>>31902075
Dp OU was truly the pinnacle of competitive battling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:56:11 No.31905852 Report

Quoted By:

>>31905737
I mean, why not de-include mega metagross if you're talking about widespread changes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:56:33 No.31905855 Report

Quoted By: >>31905884

>>31905786
I wasn't talking about it having other niche outside the trapkiller one, i was saying it's good outside of stall too, and by your post you sees to agree with me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:57:13 No.31905860 Report

Quoted By:

>>31905816
*After garchomp

But yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:58:41 No.31905874 Report

Quoted By:

>>31899604

>Zygarde STILL A rank and STILL OU

APOLOGIZE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Feb 2017 23:59:43 No.31905884 Report

Quoted By:

>>31905855
If that's what you were saying and I misinterpreted it then yes, I do agree with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 00:04:20 No.31905924 Report

Quoted By: >>31906037

>>31904310

Xuritree is hanging on by a thread because of Baton Pass. Once BP gets altered down the road, Xuritree is getting its ass demoted and then banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 00:14:10 No.31906037 Report

Quoted By: >>31910353

>>31905924
>BP
>z-hypnosis
>scarf
Xurk has ways around its shit speed, he'll stay low OU for sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 00:46:34 No.31906404 Report

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>>31899604
Can't wait for the domino of bans once a single thing goes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 01:04:37 No.31906589 Report

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>>31905646
Thousand Arrows made Zygarde fucking scary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 01:14:29 No.31906694 Report

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>>31905645
bloom doom is just a slightly better version of the old power herb solar beam set

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 01:58:30 No.31907158 Report

Quoted By: >>31908208

>>31905646
ok but this is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 02:04:52 No.31907217 Report

Quoted By: >>31907325 >>31908117 >>31908175

>>31899604
What about normal metagross with assault vest? Where is it in the meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 02:13:38 No.31907325 Report

Quoted By:

>>31907217
RU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 02:24:27 No.31907431 Report

Quoted By:

>>31900007

THIS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 02:26:53 No.31907460 Report

Quoted By: >>31907484

>>31900917
this is the funniest shit ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 02:28:03 No.31907484 Report

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>>31907460
People have been running hp ice on Lando t since gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 02:28:08 No.31907486 Report

Quoted By:

>>31900917
>when you're so good that the best way to check yourself is literally with yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 03:14:26 No.31907950 Report

Quoted By:

>>31900917
HP Ice is actually for Chomp and Zygarde, Lando is setup fodder for both of those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 03:28:47 No.31908117 Report

Quoted By:

>>31907217

Right up there with Life Orb Cresselia and Choice Band Quagsire

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 03:32:58 No.31908175 Report

Quoted By:

>>31907217
in showderp where it belongs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 03:34:50 No.31908208 Report

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>>31907158

Z-Happy Hour is garbage don't count it fr Jirachi. Keldeo got indirectly nerfed as well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 03:35:53 No.31908217 Report

Quoted By: >>31908230 >>31908277 >>31908288

>fast memebug of non-existent killing power is S rank
>unzips 180 attack sword is B
Okay girl

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 03:37:14 No.31908230 Report

Quoted By: >>31908248

>>31908217
>growlithe used ember

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 03:39:06 No.31908248 Report

Quoted By: >>31908259

>>31908230
>burnt modest 0 EV/IV smeargle used peck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 03:40:29 No.31908259 Report

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>>31908248
the difference is that pheromosa can outspeed that unlike papercut lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 03:42:34 No.31908277 Report

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>>31908217
>137 Att and Sp. Attack
>moveset supports physical, special and mixed
>no killing power
>worse than no moves origami

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 03:43:25 No.31908288 Report

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>>31908217
Kartana has trash STAB moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 04:30:55 No.31908865 Report

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>Xurkitree in C
Ill take what I can get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 07:29:40 No.31910327 Report

Quoted By: >>31910340

>>31904360
Wait, why is Fini cancer? It's bulky, has good typing and Defogs pretty well but it has no recovery and its terrain effect does more to harm stall than promote it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 07:32:37 No.31910340 Report

Quoted By: >>31910422

>>31910327
Not into competitive but if it had to guess...water/fairy is still easily one of the best types offensively/defensively and a few calm minds makes her a killer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 07:35:34 No.31910353 Report

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>>31906037
>outspeeded by every single relevant scarfer

No. It's entirely dependent on getting two speed boosts from Scolipede to actually sweep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 07:36:58 No.31910356 Report

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>>31904227
Just as viable as Talonflame. Truly he is king.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 07:49:29 No.31910422 Report

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Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 07:55:14 No.31910447 Report

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Say goodbye to your precious meta!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 08:03:38 No.31910484 Report

Quoted By: >>31911215

>Alolan Muk C rank
Feels bad man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 09:49:09 No.31910955 Report

Quoted By: >>31911067

At least my dude Amoonguss is still good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 10:13:45 No.31911067 Report

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>>31910955

Amoonguss is kinda falling out of favour, actually. Sucks, I know, it's one of my favourites too.

Toxapex kinda stole its role as a Poison-type Regenerator, plus competition from Tangrowth and Ferrothorn doesn't help. Terrains frequently block Spore, Clear Smog doesn't work through Substitute (Zygarde), it's not looking good for the shroom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 10:34:02 No.31911130 Report

Quoted By: >>31911211

>Blissey is there at all
Doesn't Chansey make Blissey entirely irrelevant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 10:53:56 No.31911211 Report

Quoted By:

>>31911130

Blissey has a niche in not caring if it loses its item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 10:57:08 No.31911215 Report

Quoted By:

>>31910484
Good people were delusional saying it was staying in ou

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 12:55:41 No.31911634 Report

Quoted By: >>31912157

def or spdef skarmory? what moveset should i put on scarf garchomp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 14:35:22 No.31912157 Report

Quoted By:

>>31911634
I use def Skarm, but mostly depends on what is supposed to switch in/resist.

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