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>>31916199
>>31916206
They should really go in-depth as to exactly how society and economics works in the Pokemon world. Like, every child has the opportunity to go out on an adventure as they please, and there's free healthcare for your Pokemon, too. How does this work? And how do they live knowing that there are creatures that can control elements in the universe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 21:14:53 No.31916514 Report

Quoted By: >>31916561

>>31915979
Could be, they have all kind of gangs trying to grab power. But they also have well maintained roads so it's most likely socialist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 21:17:20 No.31916561 Report

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>>31916514
The Pokémarts maintain them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 21:21:40 No.31916629 Report

Quoted By: >>31921016

It's anarcho-socialist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 21:34:58 No.31916841 Report

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>>31915979
Can't say for sure, games offer you little to no clues.
Silph Co. is the most powerful corporation in Kanto and they manufacture everything the Pokemarts sell.
All Pokemon centers in a region have the same design, so they are run by the same corporation or government.
Outside the Parfum Palace in Gen 6 you could see people complaining about the owner's wealth. Lumiose city has some other references as well.
Everybody can live a decent live from what you can see, but some trainers are clearly wealthier than others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 21:36:47 No.31916864 Report

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>>31915979
It's national-socialist, probably

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 21:39:03 No.31916894 Report

Quoted By: >>31921016

>>31916206
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 21:39:59 No.31916903 Report

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It has roads

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 22:05:13 No.31917203 Report

Quoted By: >>31917224 >>31919105 >>31921748

>>31916246
I think it's more disturbing that in their society children are expected to go on a journey across the land at the age of 10. Is education not a thing? Do the elite encourage the journeys so their children get educated and stay in power?

Unova is the only country where prowess at Pokemon seems to actually equal political or social influence, and their journeys seem to start at later ages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 22:06:25 No.31917224 Report

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>>31917203
The pokemon world is a firm believer in the school of hard knocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 22:09:05 No.31917258 Report

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Have you thought that maybe the game doesn't want you to care about that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 23:09:06 No.31918028 Report

Quoted By: >>31918127

>>31916206
>tfw socialism only works if pokemon are real
I'm full /pol/ right now but I'd change if it meant being a pokemon trainer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 23:15:23 No.31918127 Report

Quoted By: >>31921588

>>31918028
>full /pol/
>not being natsoc
fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 23:16:46 No.31918147 Report

Quoted By: >>31918678

>>31915979
>when Lillie tries to make you go into the bag but that's a violation of the NAP so you don't get into the bag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 23:40:19 No.31918541 Report

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>>31916246
These games are targeted towards children and kids don't give a shit about political or economic policies.

anonymou5

anonymou5 Sun 26 Feb 2017 23:44:45 No.31918606 Report

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POKEMOON

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Feb 2017 23:48:20 No.31918678 Report

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>>31918147
>when Zinnia tries to get you to save the world but she is committing a violation of the NAP so you Hyper Beam her face

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 00:14:27 No.31919040 Report

Quoted By: >>31921296 >>31921723 >>31922451

Pokemon society is pretty much based on communism (by the original definition of endgame society) with democratic/libertarian values mixed in.

Technology and means of production in the Pokemon universe are so advanced (possibly because of Pokemon contributing to many groundbreaking scientific discoveries) that any basic commodity, food, healthcare, possibly even housing is easily available, but people are still free to engage in any activity they want as long as they don't endanger anyone.
The real question is how is this world geopolitically organized, are the regions independent states or provinces of a larger nation? Or possibly there is a world-wide central government?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 00:19:18 No.31919105 Report

Quoted By: >>31922509

>>31917203
That "trainers always start at 10" is bullshit from the anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 02:52:48 No.31921016 Report

Quoted By: >>31921058

>>31916206
>>31916629
>>31916894
>Silph Co
>Devon Corporation
> NPCs Complains about Parfum Palace owner wealth
It's not socialist

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 02:56:04 No.31921058 Report

Quoted By: >>31921090 >>31921104

>>31921016
>socialism means that nobody can be rich
ebin

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 02:58:41 No.31921081 Report

Quoted By: >>31921100 >>31921171

>>31915979
anachro-capitalism is the most self-defeating thing ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 02:59:18 No.31921090 Report

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>>31921058
Actually that is what it means.

Socialism is not simply heavy taxation and government programs, it's the end goal of communism which is a stateless, classless, moneyless society

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 02:59:33 No.31921091 Report

Quoted By: >>31921119

Better question is if it's legal to FUG your pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 03:00:20 No.31921100 Report

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>>31921081
What about anracho-feminism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 03:00:42 No.31921104 Report

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>>31921058
Socialism means that the means of production(Silph Co,Devon Corporation, Parfum Palace) can't be private

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 03:01:05 No.31921111 Report

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>>31921100
Thats a meme ideology that one tripfag on leftypol uses to attention whore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 03:02:00 No.31921119 Report

Quoted By: >>31923122

>>31921091
Yes see the texts in the library in DPPt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 03:05:24 No.31921171 Report

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>>31921081
>leftie

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 03:09:27 No.31921221 Report

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>>31915979
It's obviously Mutualist

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 03:16:43 No.31921296 Report

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>>31919040
>possibly because of Pokemon contributing to many groundbreaking scientific discoveries
This. In gen 6 some NPC says they cannot sustain their society if Pokemon aren't there.
Plus, consider that there are much less people in the world, and it becomes evident because how easier becomes for people to trust each other, and to send their children away and trust they won't get raped or murdered in the process.

Now, you can't test which would the impact on the economy be if you sell the 200 potions they gave you in OR/AS, or how would if be if you tank it by buying 999 Max Repels, and I don't remember any NPCs talking about supply and demand.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 03:45:17 No.31921561 Report

Quoted By: >>31921622

Why doesn't the enemy team just shoot or enslave the protag for violating the NAP?

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Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 03:47:58 No.31921588 Report

Quoted By: >>31921665

>>31918127
>unironically thinking socialism will EVER work in our world

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 03:51:16 No.31921622 Report

Quoted By: >>31921673

>>31921561
Because the protagonist has big guns and the enemy team violates the NAP first

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 03:57:03 No.31921665 Report

Quoted By: >>31921744

>>31921588
communism*
ftfy

socialism can clearly work, communism won't be default because the transitional state is never going to relinquish power so we'll never even get there in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 03:57:39 No.31921673 Report

Quoted By: >>31923135

>>31921622
What about Aether? Protag walks into there and violates the NAP, unless you consider TeamSkull™ to be Aether's genetically engineered child sex slave army.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 04:01:56 No.31921704 Report

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>>31915979
Its a communist society(league controls and regulates everything) with certain cities given liftedtrade and production status. (real life example would be shenzhen in china which was given Special Economic Zone SEZ status) this would allow things like silph co to exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 04:04:55 No.31921723 Report

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>>31919040
It's implied there -was- a huge war, so I figure a lot of the population got killed off. Whatever powers that be that remained probably made the pokemon leagues and gyms to become places to put anyone with violent tendencies.

Government wise we've seen there are at least Mayors, and as other people have mentioned there's businesses that make and produce things(but seem somewhat happy to share some of their things).

>>31921296
>Now, you can't test which would the impact on the economy be if you sell the 200 potions they gave you in OR/AS
Probably only slightly - the game's internal logic doesn't have dips from over-product, and potions seem relatively important- selling them to a store for the sell-back cost means they turn around and sell them to other trainers/people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 04:05:57 No.31921736 Report

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>>31916199
>Well, I don't see anything resembling a government in these games.
There are mayors in the towns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 04:06:52 No.31921744 Report

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>>31921665
>implying
as long as human greed is a factor, socialism will never work
socialism ALWAYS devolves to communism or just collapses before then

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 04:07:50 No.31921748 Report

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>>31917203
Not everyone goes to become a trainer. Most people in the pokeverse are actually doing other things, they just battle you because pokemon like to battle to get stronger and it's friendly competition. In most of hte game lines you're 10-16, and had family who were trainers so you become one too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 04:09:52 No.31921768 Report

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>>31916246
Why expect logic from such an illogical game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 05:29:11 No.31922451 Report

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>>31919040
>Or possibly there is a world-wide central government?

There's certainly an international police so there's that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 05:40:51 No.31922509 Report

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>>31919105
I like to think that ten is the youngest age that you're allowed to get a trainer's licenses and sign up for the pokemon league, but some trainers wait til they're older to go on their journey, or their parents hold them back for obvious reasons.
explanation for preschooler classes: They're not official trainers or allowed to challange gyms, but there's no laws about having pokemon battles with your parents pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 07:38:56 No.31923122 Report

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>>31921119
please do elaborate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 07:40:42 No.31923135 Report

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>>31921673
And Aether is powerless to stop him. What's wrong here? If the warlord can back his shit up, he gets to do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 08:38:04 No.31923388 Report

Quoted By: >>31923544

>you can find better political discussion on /vp/ than on /pol/
Also Pokemon Centers are only free healthcare because they advertise the Pokemart. They want to show you how much better it is to have your team fully healed so you buy more in the mart. Huge profit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Feb 2017 09:24:37 No.31923544 Report

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>>31923388
It's the politically incorrect board not the politics board anon

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