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Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:20:02 No.31945214 View View Reply Original Report

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Does Honchkrow even have any counters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:24:23 No.31945242 Report

Quoted By: >>31945310

diancie seems like a solid answer to it as its one of the few dark and flying resists that aren't destroyed by heat wave or superpower

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:30:01 No.31945292 Report

Quoted By: >>31945320

>>31945214
Weavile. Resists Sucker Punch and is powerful enough to kill it with an Icicle Crash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:32:42 No.31945310 Report

Quoted By: >>31945614

>>31945242

Diancie gets wrecked by Steel Wing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:34:38 No.31945320 Report

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>>31945292

Weavile cannot switch in on Honchkrow

252+ Atk Honchkrow Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Weavile: 297-351 (105.6 - 124.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Honchkrow Superpower vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Weavile: 792-936 (281.8 - 333%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It can certainly check Honchkrow if it manages to get a free switch-in, but it's not a counter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:36:34 No.31945335 Report

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Machamp

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Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:36:44 No.31945337 Report

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>>31945214
Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Garchomp, Landorus...basically all of OU, actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:43:51 No.31945388 Report

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>>31945337
Those can't switch safely on Honch's Brave Bird and take a Sucker Punch after, not even Koko. And Lele gets 1 hit KO'd by Brave Bird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:46:52 No.31945420 Report

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>>31945214
Defensive Zapdos

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:47:16 No.31945425 Report

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toxapex

:^)

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Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:48:40 No.31945434 Report

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Damn. I remember when some black alphaweeb NFL player sweeped all challengers from /vp/ with his ace Honchkrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:52:44 No.31945463 Report

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>>31945388
Fine, M-Metagross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:53:32 No.31945471 Report

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>>31945388
Are you brain damaged?
252+ Atk Honchkrow Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 120-141 (42.7 - 50.1%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 70-83 (24.9 - 29.5%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO
And this is fucking Koko, Landorus and Garchomp rape Honchkrow with no problem whatsoever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:55:17 No.31945492 Report

Quoted By: >>31945509 >>31945519 >>31945536 >>31945543 >>31945553 >>31945563 >>31945632 >>31945647

>>31945214
Is Honchkrow the pinnacle of pokemon design?
>pleasant color pallet
>recognizable animal base while not being literally my mom's raven
>cool mafia theme
>stylized, but not ugly or ridiculous proportions
>a lot of small neat details, like tail being a cigar and chest feathers being a jabot, that all fit well together and don't create a clusterfuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:56:03 No.31945505 Report

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>>31945388
>Those can't switch safely
>Tapu Lele
>Sucker Punch

Lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:56:24 No.31945509 Report

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>>31945492
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:57:19 No.31945519 Report

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>>31945492
I actually do enjoy it, I wish it didn't get hit so hard by that shitty fedora meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:57:21 No.31945521 Report

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>>31945214
Machamp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:58:54 No.31945536 Report

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>>31945492
Yes it is a good design, and so is Murkrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 17:59:23 No.31945543 Report

Quoted By: >>31945562

>>31945492
Honchkrow is the worst Pokemon ever made and if you like it you should get out

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Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:00:27 No.31945553 Report

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>>31945492
>liking shitkrow

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Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:01:15 No.31945562 Report

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>>31945543
>>31945553

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Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:01:16 No.31945563 Report

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>>31945492
You forgot 'one of the best cries in the series'

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:06:16 No.31945598 Report

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>>31945214
Depends on the set, but plenty of defensive mons can force it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:07:12 No.31945606 Report

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Please don't make shitpost threads involving my favorite pokemon.
Thank you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:07:46 No.31945609 Report

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>>31945563
Hell yeah. It's a shame they kinda fucked it up in the cry rework.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:08:12 No.31945614 Report

Quoted By: >>31945633

>>31945310
It doesn't. Defensive Diancie doesn't give two shits about steel wing even with x4 weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:11:04 No.31945632 Report

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>>31945492
It's a nice design, but they should not have dropped the witch motif which murkrow had.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:11:05 No.31945633 Report

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>>31945614
It actually does, but a bigger question is can Honchkrow even run Steel Wing without any major opportunity costs

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Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:12:37 No.31945647 Report

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>>31945492
Get on my level.
But Honchkrow is pretty great too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:15:46 No.31945674 Report

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>>31945633
Actually you're right, it does. I guess I didn't switch Diancie into Steel Wing and I just took it next turn and lived while shitcrow exploded from a diamond storm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:16:51 No.31945691 Report

Quoted By: >>31945705 >>31945726 >>31945727 >>31945734

>>31945633
What move would Honchkrow run besides Bird, SPunch, and SPower that's better than Steel Wing, anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:18:00 No.31945705 Report

Quoted By: >>31945715

>>31945691
SD, Roost

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:18:59 No.31945715 Report

Quoted By: >>31945730

>>31945705
>implying honchkrow can learn swords dance
>implying it can even live to use status moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:19:58 No.31945726 Report

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>>31945691
Pursuit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:20:10 No.31945727 Report

Quoted By: >>31945735

>>31945691
Night Slash and maybe Heat Wave come to mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:20:33 No.31945730 Report

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>>31945715
I could have sworn it learned SD. That only makes it even shittier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:21:13 No.31945734 Report

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>>31945691
Z-snatch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:21:20 No.31945735 Report

Quoted By: >>31945766

>>31945727
>Night Slash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:24:09 No.31945766 Report

Quoted By: >>31945806

>>31945735
Same BP as Sucker Punch and more reliable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:30:12 No.31945806 Report

Quoted By: >>31945820

>>31945766

The standard Honchkrow set runs both though

Sucker Punch for when you need priority, Night Slash when you don't

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Mar 2017 18:31:40 No.31945820 Report

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>>31945806
I'm talking about running it over Steel Wing, not Sucker Punch

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