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Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 17:00:23 No.31956837 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31956867 >>31957984 >>31958159 >>31958183 >>31958330 >>31960545 >>31964276 >>31964733 >>31966414

>The theme of the games is literally "Land and Sea"
>Retards unironically complain about water travel
>Sun/Moon comes out
>Games don't have the player cross the seas themselves
>Retards complain

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 17:02:16 No.31956846 Report

Quoted By: >>31964733

Diving is one of the best aspects in the series. Diving underwater and exploring underwater labyrinths, and resurfacing in areas you thought were inaccesible and finding hidden items brought a genuine sense of adventure. Something recent Pokemon games lack IMO. It just sucks that it's an HM, but every game besides Sun/Moon has those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 17:05:27 No.31956867 Report

Quoted By: >>31956906

>>31956837
The best is when people say "But all the water fucks over Fire types!" like as if it's impossible for a level 40 Blaziken to beat a level 35 Lanturn. And then they complain about the game being too easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 17:10:49 No.31956906 Report

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>>31956867
This. And even then, if you suck at the game you could use the EXP Share so your fire/ground/rock type doesn't fall behind. GameFreak also added Ace Trainers on the sea routes that have non-water types. It's a non-issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 18:07:54 No.31957334 Report

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bumped for truth

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Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 18:30:03 No.31957484 Report

Quoted By: >>31957737 >>31957776

Matching the theme doesn't mean it isn't shit. Water is literally just blue squares with pointless random encounters. If you use repels, then it's just a huge, nearly empty area with nothing but some trainers and shitty patches of land that make you replay the HM animation. It's complete garbage, and I'm not even touching the diving, or the currents sending you the wrong way and making you do the whole thing again.

How about designing a way to make it engaging instead of stupidly tedious?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 18:59:59 No.31957737 Report

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>>31957484
First off, it's not "huge" and it isn't tedious. It takes barely any time at all to surf from Lilycove to Mossdeep, especially when riding a Sharpedo. Secondly, it's a fucking ocean, what do you expect? By your logic people should complain about caves being nothing but rocks. It's a complete non-issue. Diving is one of the best aspects in the franchise. Searching underwater labyrinths for places to resurface that you thought were off the map that hold hidden items brought a sense of adventure that new games lack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 19:04:34 No.31957776 Report

Quoted By: >>31964265

>>31957484
>or the currents sending you the wrong way and making you do the whole thing again.
>crying that the game punishes you for fucking up
Hillarious considering people bitch about ORAS being too easy

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Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 19:29:07 No.31957984 Report

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>>31956837
>4chan isn't one person, and multiple people have differing opinions on the same subject
Really crinkles the cranium...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 19:52:19 No.31958133 Report

Quoted By: >>31959042

The problem with water travel is Tentacruel and Pelipper being the only Pokémon encountered while surfing. Yet Hoenn dex is full of water types that can only be encountered by fishing.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 19:55:43 No.31958159 Report

Quoted By: >>31958183 >>31958189

>>31956837
>/vp/ complains about current game, even if it's the exact opposite of the previous one they complained about
>people are surprised
/vp/ is literally just a contrarian echo chamber

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 19:58:29 No.31958183 Report

Quoted By: >>31958204

>>31956837
>>31958159
>youhypocrites.jpg

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Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 19:58:52 No.31958189 Report

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>>31958159
SM has mostly the same flaws as XY had.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 20:01:05 No.31958204 Report

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>>31958183
>taking advantage of the fact that you're anonymous to pretend you totally aren't a part of exactly what I just said

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 20:03:13 No.31958220 Report

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i hope they bring back diving with some legendary/treasure hunting. i'd love to explore sunken ships and whatnot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 20:11:52 No.31958292 Report

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>>31958204
>sarcasticsure.jpg

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Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 20:18:21 No.31958330 Report

Quoted By: >>31959326 >>31964743

>>31956837
Daily reminder that Hoenn haters and anti-ocean fags are the reason we have no good surf locations in the fucking Hawaii region.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 21:50:13 No.31959042 Report

Quoted By: >>31959704

>>31958133
Just played ORAS two months ago and there were more than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 22:21:00 No.31959326 Report

Quoted By: >>31964741

>>31958330

>implying it wasn't IGN's too much water meme review that caused this rather than fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 22:28:41 No.31959390 Report

Quoted By: >>31959742

Reminder that these games were hated on release and only kids who played these games first think are good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 23:05:58 No.31959704 Report

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>>31959042
He must be talking about R/S/E.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Mar 2017 23:10:54 No.31959742 Report

Quoted By: >>31961311

>>31959390
Reminder that these games were hated by Kanto/Johto kids because they couldn't bring their Kanto/Johto shitmons with them and only people with impeccable taste think they are good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 00:52:31 No.31960545 Report

Quoted By: >>31961610

>>31956837
Why do people even hate the water? Are you saying you prefer caves over water?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 02:04:31 No.31961311 Report

Quoted By: >>31961916

>>31959742
But I could bring Kanto and Johto mons to ORAS and this will not make ORAS good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 02:29:06 No.31961610 Report

Quoted By: >>31961905

>>31960545
Caves are shit too, but exploring them is much more intuitive/rewarding (paths/floors as opposed to the boring emptiness of water routes) and have more trainers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 02:57:16 No.31961905 Report

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>>31961610
What is intuitive about brown tiles? Also, the water routes are far from empty? Literally the best exploration is in sea routes with Dive where you can find hidden items. THAT is intuitive and rewarding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 02:58:20 No.31961916 Report

Quoted By: >>31964288

>>31961311
That's because ORAS is already good. If you can't figure that out after playing the movie that is Sun/Moon, I don't know what to tell you man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 09:29:41 No.31964265 Report

Quoted By: >>31965165

>>31957776
not him but it's just trial and error. You can just save before every time you surf, and reset if you were 1-2 off from the dive hole with the Regi puzzle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 09:31:44 No.31964276 Report

Quoted By: >>31965178

>>31956837
Ah yes the very epic meme that /vp/ is a hivemind. Of course there's no way those two oposite opinions could be held by two different sets of people, not it's all contrarian trolls complaining for the sake of complaining, you're so smart for figuring it out, proud of you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 09:35:34 No.31964288 Report

Quoted By: >>31964717 >>31964757 >>31965143

>>31961916
ORAS is fucking terrible

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 11:47:48 No.31964717 Report

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>>31964288
OR/AS is disappointing but it's not terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 11:53:10 No.31964733 Report

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>>31956846
Agree, but diving started in rse so its doomed to be unnapreciated at best.

>>31956837
I agree with the general idea, although surfing parts could use some improvement, specially regarding the pokemon that show up. That said, oras at least fixed the encounter rates a bit so it is an improvement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 11:54:46 No.31964741 Report

Quoted By: >>31965132

>>31959326
A review that played it safe and was based on one of the most popular understandable complaints about the originals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 11:55:29 No.31964743 Report

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>>31958330
That doesn't explain the rest of the hawaiian shit that we didn't get in the hawaii region

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 11:59:10 No.31964757 Report

Quoted By: >>31964795

>>31964288
ORAS is a terrible remake but by far the best 3DS Pokémon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 12:10:25 No.31964795 Report

Quoted By: >>31965155

>>31964757
That's not saying much
at all

I think that SM is my favorite mainline 3DS game. That's how shitty ORAS is

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Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 12:18:09 No.31964820 Report

Quoted By: >>31964980

>3rd gen adds a lot of weird and obscure stuff for explorers and metagamers to enjoy
>gf assumes it goes unappreciated
>now get slapped in the face with features

I want places like the Battle Hill, Frontier and other shit back

I like the newer games mechanically but they're boring otherwise

at least S/M was a step towards it I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 12:58:43 No.31964980 Report

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>>31964820
>gf assumes it goes unappreciated
Gf wants to sell to people who arent old enough to have played gen 3 and people who hate gen 3. The fact that oras even exists is a miracle with that in mind.

But pokemon actual buyers also dont appreciate it enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 13:30:58 No.31965132 Report

Quoted By: >>31965141

>>31964741

That was the point. Fans think they have more say than they think they do. Gamefreak are more likely to listen to review sites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 13:32:00 No.31965141 Report

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>>31965132

*than they actually do

my bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 13:32:02 No.31965143 Report

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>>31964288
The opinion of someone with shit taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 13:33:41 No.31965155 Report

Quoted By: >>31965445

>>31964795
He said game, not movie which is what Sun/Moon is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 13:34:47 No.31965165 Report

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>>31964265
I thought you were talking about the currents in the Seafloor cavern. The ones near Pacifidlog are at least optional and all go to the same place.

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Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 13:37:07 No.31965178 Report

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>>31964276
>implying /vp/ doesn't have a hivemind mentality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 14:33:30 No.31965445 Report

Quoted By: >>31966376

>>31965155
It have a lot of cutscenes but SM is still a game.
And much better than ORAS.

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Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 17:00:32 No.31966376 Report

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>>31965445
Not just the cutscenes. It's linear, there's little to explore, and there's fuck all postgame. ORAS is better hands down.

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Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2017 17:05:36 No.31966414 Report

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>>31956837
>/vp/ is one person

Personally, I loved Hoenn and I WAS mad that you couldn't travel from island to island with stuff to explore between each. Maybe then the games wouldn't be so fucking barren.

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