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Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 12:00:45 No.31973501 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31973514 >>31973536 >>31973561 >>31975921 >>31976611 >>31976627 >>31976665 >>31977276

How drastically would Stealth Icicles effect the meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 12:03:57 No.31973514 Report

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>>31973501
A fucking lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 12:09:21 No.31973530 Report

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bye garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 12:10:31 No.31973536 Report

Quoted By: >>31977481

>>31973501
Assuming it's just Ice-type Stealth Rock

>SE against dragon, grass, and ground instead of bug, fire, and ice
>Still SE against flying
>NVE against ice and water instead of fighting and ground
>Most likely would be most learned by Ice and Water types, and might (just might) have similar availability to stealth rock

>Would most likely stack with stealth rock the same way spikes, tox spikes, and sneaky pebbles already stack

>flying-type permanently btfo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 12:17:04 No.31973561 Report

Quoted By: >>31973576

>>31973501
>Landorus, Gliscor and Garchomp are severely nerfed and drop in usage, Gliscor might even drop to BL or UU
>Since it sounds like a Ice-Type exclusive like Aurora Veil, you'd see more Ice types around, Mamoswine, Weavile and A-Ninetales primarily and others from lower tiers may rise in popularity
>All dragon types except the hyper powerful pseudos become shit
>Flying Types are fucked and if it stacks with Rocks they are double-fucked, unless their name is Skarmory or Celesteela
>Defog and Rapid Spin become obligatory if you want to run something with double weakness to Ice, Water or Steel spinfoggers increase in usage
>Grass types get shat on for no reason again, as always

Mai

Mai Sat 04 Mar 2017 12:20:15 No.31973569 Report

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Stealth Fists would be great and actually quite balanced. It's a shame that the concept is far to ridiculous to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 12:23:07 No.31973576 Report

Quoted By: >>31973581

>>31973561
Gliscor is UU already

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 12:25:25 No.31973581 Report

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>>31973576
Sorry, been out of the loop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 12:53:59 No.31973666 Report

Quoted By: >>31975558

Assuming it got limited distribution (only ice types, and not all of them even), ice types removed them upon switching in (but were not immune to them) and that it could not be active at the same time as stealth rock (meaning setting one replaces the other), how would it realistically affect the meta?

I would guess ice types would go up in usage and we'd have stealth rock/sneaky icicles wars, as all teams would try to set up the one that benefits it the most, but beyond that, what would happen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 17:58:30 No.31975545 Report

Quoted By: >>31975565

Smogon OM when?

Just make it Stealth Rock but Ice-type and learnable by all Ice-type Pokémon and bam, new meta. We can see how it'd affect stuff literally rather than guessing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 18:01:04 No.31975558 Report

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>>31973666
>Assuming it got limited distribution
>ice types removed them upon switching in
In other words, not like pebbles at all.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sat 04 Mar 2017 18:01:38 No.31975565 Report

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People would use more ice-types.

>>31975545
It actually already exists.
http://www.smogon.com/articles/same-type-stealth-rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 18:43:07 No.31975921 Report

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>>31973501
It wouldn't.
Ice is objectively shit even against the types it's SE on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 19:33:47 No.31976394 Report

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>>31975921
Ice is a great offensive type, dudebro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 19:40:10 No.31976445 Report

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So would they be able to stack with stealth rocks, because that would be a lot of damage coming into a layer of Ice and Stealth Rocks as well as spikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 19:59:33 No.31976587 Report

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>Dragon/Flying types lose 75% health each time they switch in if rocks and icicles are set up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 20:03:06 No.31976611 Report

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>>31973501
The meta will finally be free of the cancer that is Landorus-T and Garchomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 20:03:59 No.31976616 Report

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How would a grass type stealth rock work?
Stealth grass if you will.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 20:05:04 No.31976622 Report

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>>31976394

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Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 20:05:30 No.31976627 Report

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>>31973501

>Genies are finally removed
>Garchomp still manages to be OU
>Every flying type not resistant to ice is basically done for.
>Tangrowth is fucked
>Heatran and Alolawak get even more usage since fire types will remove Incognito Icicles

basically even more cancer than before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 20:11:30 No.31976665 Report

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>>31973501
All Flying types, Dragon types and most Ground types are now unusable. Anything with a combination of the two is ruined forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 20:12:45 No.31976671 Report

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>>31976665
I guess all Fire-types are useless because of SR

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 20:13:30 No.31976681 Report

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>>31976671
Yeah basically

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Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 20:15:06 No.31976693 Report

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Is there any type combo that would get ohko by pebbles + icicles?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 20:19:25 No.31976719 Report

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>>31976693
No, at best a Grass/Flying would be down 75% on the switch

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Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 20:21:40 No.31976734 Report

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>every Bug/Flying Pokemon's face when

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Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 21:41:38 No.31977276 Report

Quoted By: >>31977446

>>31973501
The only way to keep a usable meta is for either;

A: Make it so there is a limit to the number of hazards allows at once to prevent this and rocks being up
B: Have them disappear after the first switch in
C: Have them disappear after the user switched out or is KOed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 21:59:21 No.31977446 Report

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>>31977276
How about they disappear when your opponent uses a fire-type move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2017 22:04:41 No.31977481 Report

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>>31973536
>Charizard takes 67.5% upon switch-in to rocks and ice.
>Lando takes 67.5% upon switch-in
>Salamence and Dragonite take 75% upon switch-in

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