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Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2017 06:06:22 No.31990598 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31990615 >>31990819 >>31991443

>Ban Shadow Tag because of Gothitelle

>Waste time suspect testing Dugtrio instead of just banning Arena Trap

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Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2017 06:10:05 No.31990615 Report

Quoted By: >>31990624 >>31990629 >>31991405

>>31990598
shadow tag was op because gothitelle gets trick, so you can hand over a choice scarf, get the enemy stealth rocking for eternity, boost all your stats, then sweep

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Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2017 06:11:48 No.31990624 Report

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>>31990615
Probably the same reason GF went back on releasing Shadow Tag Chandelure, and instead outright changed its HA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2017 06:12:44 No.31990629 Report

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>>31990615
>SRing when Team Preview shows that the opponent has a Goth
>SRing when the opponent leads with Sableye
>suspect both

This crap is why I can't take Smogon seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2017 06:42:23 No.31990794 Report

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What upsets me about the Shadow Tag ban was we lost Wobuffet. Sure, the Tickle+Tyranitar Pursuit trap core was annoying but it wasn't really something to ban stuff over. They should've just banned Gothitelle, it's not like Goth with the other abilities was any good in NU, where it was outclassed by stuff like Female Meowstic and Jynx.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2017 06:46:21 No.31990819 Report

Quoted By: >>31991393

>>31990598
>Ban Arena Trap
>Suddenly Dugtrio is completely useless
Thanks Smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2017 09:18:28 No.31991393 Report

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>>31990819
You think a 120 speed, 100 base attack mon with stab eq is useless? Sand force/Life Orb STAB EQ is nothing to scoff at, anon. Mildly inefficient in today's meta, sure. But still something you can't let go unchecked.

Also Arena Trap didn't get banned, so I don't know what you're on about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2017 09:22:13 No.31991405 Report

Quoted By: >>31991435

>>31990615
>Everything that counters Stealth Rocks is banned instead of just fucking banning le Cancer Pebbles
Sounds like Smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2017 09:30:56 No.31991435 Report

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>>31991405
TBF, if you have a problem with rocks, then you are kind of a scrub.

>Muh it's cheap, and it hurts my favorite mons.

It's free damage. Cheap or not, I'll take all the added damage I can get.

>muh it's centralizing play, so it needs to be banned.
...I won't deny that argument, and I do think that rocks do way to much "free" damage. But they've been around since gen 4. That's 10 years of rocks play. If you still have that big a problem with rocks play, then you must be a newfag, or you must suck REALLY hard.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Mar 2017 09:34:27 No.31991443 Report

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>>31990598
It was either ban the entire goth family or ban shadow tag.
Top players tested gothorita on stall and it functioned exactly the same.

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