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Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:16:26 No.32015319 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32015352 >>32015367 >>32015530 >>32017988 >>32018060 >>32018950 >>32021396

Can someone explain to me why this is allowed? This is literally a fakemon tier stat distribution. Hell, even most fakemon aren't THIS blatant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:17:42 No.32015331 Report

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Because Beedrill was shit and needed something like that to save it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:19:21 No.32015352 Report

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>>32015319

Beedrill was such a shitmon that they had to minmax and take points out of its Special Attack to bypass the +100 BST limit for Megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:19:41 No.32015357 Report

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Because beedrill needed to be revived

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:20:39 No.32015367 Report

Quoted By: >>32015375 >>32015404

>>32015319
Can someone explain to me why this is allowed? This is literally a fakemon tier stat distribution. Hell, even most fakemon aren't THIS blatant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:21:37 No.32015375 Report

Quoted By: >>32015403 >>32015463 >>32015465 >>32015553 >>32018940

>>32015367
See, this here is justified because Deoxys is a legendary and thus supposed to be overpowered and broken.

Beedrill has no such justification.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:22:08 No.32015382 Report

Quoted By: >>32015410 >>32027371 >>32027385

Can someone explain to me why this is allowed? This is literally a fakemon tier stat distribution. Hell, even most fakemon aren't THIS blatant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:23:20 No.32015403 Report

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>>32015375

Mega Beedrill has a shallow movepool and the opportunity cost of using another Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:23:35 No.32015404 Report

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>>32015367
I wonder how smart GF felt when they invented Sucker Punch the very next gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:23:52 No.32015410 Report

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>>32015382
Post Kartana

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:25:15 No.32015436 Report

Quoted By: >>32015471 >>32015472 >>32015493 >>32020173 >>32024552 >>32027385

>>32015410
This is fairly allowed, the stats are balanced by the fact that its moveset is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:27:12 No.32015463 Report

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>>32015375
>it's okay for legendaries to have ridiculous stat distros
>but not mega-evolutions which are meant to be similar

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:27:35 No.32015465 Report

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>>32015375
>legendary and thus supposed to be overpowered and broken

tell that to the majority of legendaries, i don't think they got the memo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:28:14 No.32015471 Report

Quoted By: >>32019693

>>32015436
plus literally an incinerate from a geodude will kill it

200 SpA Geodude Incinerate vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kartana: 260-308 (100.3 - 118.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:28:20 No.32015472 Report

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>>32015436
>smart strike
>leaf blade
>sacred sword
>shit coverage
what actually balances out kartana is that special defense and the 4X weakness to fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:29:56 No.32015489 Report

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It was stated in an interview that Megas are supposed to have power on par with legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:30:07 No.32015493 Report

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>>32015436
cout << <shitmon>" used " <supereffectiveattack> " !" << endl;

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:33:49 No.32015530 Report

Quoted By: >>32015567

>>32015319
how is it doing in ou?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:35:47 No.32015553 Report

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>>32015375
Those aren't Beedrill's stats though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:36:34 No.32015567 Report

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>>32015530
its getting shit on by mega mawile

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:39:03 No.32015601 Report

Quoted By: >>32015677 >>32015682 >>32016052 >>32017473 >>32017503 >>32021707 >>32022664

Is there any reason to use m-beedrill when you could use pheromosa which is more versatile and doesn't take up your mega slot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:46:46 No.32015677 Report

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>>32015601
Knock-Off can be useful sometimes, and having perfect accuracy STABs can be more reliable than High Jump Miss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2017 23:47:13 No.32015682 Report

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>>32015601
Beedrill doesn't get wrecked but tapus and marowak

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 00:24:17 No.32016052 Report

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>>32015601
drill run

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 02:35:56 No.32017473 Report

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>>32015601
Mega Beedrill has a better design

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 02:39:28 No.32017503 Report

Quoted By: >>32018374

>>32015601
in the fairy meta poison is a better secondary typing than fighting

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 03:27:31 No.32017988 Report

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>>32015319
Can someone explain to me why this is allowed? This is literally a fakemon tier stat distribution. Hell, even most fakemon aren't THIS blatant.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 03:35:51 No.32018060 Report

Quoted By: >>32018444

>>32015319
Can someone explain to me why this is allowed? This is literally a fakemon tier stat distribution. Hell, even most fakemon aren't THIS blatant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 04:25:09 No.32018374 Report

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>>32017503
But a STAB All out pummeling from Blast or Jump Kick will nuke just about anything, then give you a boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 04:39:44 No.32018444 Report

Quoted By: >>32018447 >>32018933

>>32018060
>he will never get a mega bumping both defenses to 255 with the rest split between attacks
>he will never have a mega with Filter as its ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 04:40:18 No.32018447 Report

Quoted By: >>32019098

>>32018444
>Filter
>Not Stance Change

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 06:14:21 No.32018933 Report

Quoted By: >>32018942

>>32018444
mega would be shit on shuckle unless his ability was fantastic since he's pretty item dependent

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 06:15:58 No.32018940 Report

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>>32015375
Mega Beedrill is not broken whatsoever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 06:16:19 No.32018942 Report

Quoted By: >>32018946

>>32018933
Even if it was auto Trick Room?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 06:17:05 No.32018946 Report

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>>32018942
that would hardly help shuckle himself, though it would finally make trick room teams not shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 06:17:15 No.32018950 Report

Quoted By: >>32018957 >>32018971

>>32015319
GOOD STAT DISTRIBUTION?

NOT ON MY WATCH

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 06:19:06 No.32018957 Report

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>>32018950
quality post, faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 06:23:54 No.32018971 Report

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>>32018950
not bad, sp. attack really needed to be switched with defense tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 06:37:26 No.32019040 Report

Quoted By: >>32019066 >>32019087 >>32019210

>beedrill is banned to OU when it was usable in UU last gen
Why would they do this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 06:42:28 No.32019066 Report

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>>32019040
No longer needs to carry Protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 06:44:21 No.32019087 Report

Quoted By: >>32024638 >>32024802

>>32019040
It was buffed massively indirectly

>Fell Stinger can actually revenge kill stuff and gives +3
>Speed buff from mega is instant

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 06:45:55 No.32019098 Report

Quoted By: >>32019630

>>32018447
Stance Change Mega Shuckle on a Doubles team with Speed Swap Pheromosa

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 07:14:39 No.32019210 Report

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>>32019040
It just starts from OU this gen. It'll eventually drop to UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 09:04:56 No.32019630 Report

Quoted By: >>32025105

>>32019098
I can already see the set.

>protect
>accelrock
>uturn
>s.dance

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 09:19:14 No.32019682 Report

Quoted By: >>32021129

Can someone explain to me why this is allowed? This is literally a fakemon tier stat distribution. Hell, even most fakemon aren't THIS blatant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 09:22:37 No.32019693 Report

Quoted By: >>32020068

>>32015471
if Weedle could learn Hidden Power, HP Fire Specs Weedle would be a hard counter to Kartana. You can distribute its EVs so that it survives all of its moves and can OHKO it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 10:30:48 No.32020068 Report

Quoted By: >>32020121

>>32019693

There is no way Weedle can live a +2 Smart Strike

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 10:36:58 No.32020098 Report

Quoted By: >>32021140

does rayquaza's stat distribution get anyone else's dick hard

even the non mega form is so unapologetically EXTREEEEME

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 10:40:54 No.32020121 Report

Quoted By: >>32021148

>>32020068
This is without boosts though.

252 Atk Kartana Smart Strike vs. 252 HP / 152+ Def Weedle: 237-279 (83.4 - 98.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

100 SpA Choice Specs Weedle Hidden Power Fire vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kartana: 264-312 (101.9 - 120.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It's more of a check I guess, and one that assumes you can take a hit and U-turn/Volt Switch/Baton Pass into Weedle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 10:48:20 No.32020173 Report

Quoted By: >>32021427

>>32015436
>181 attack
I fucking hate UB

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 10:50:58 No.32020185 Report

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>All the Gen III and Gen VII fags who think every Pokemon should be a mixed attacker with frail defences and average speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 13:49:58 No.32021129 Report

Quoted By: >>32021230

>>32019682
what mon is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 13:52:02 No.32021140 Report

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>>32020098
it's actually a pretty shitty distribtion, it's just that its BST are through the fucking roof

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 13:53:07 No.32021148 Report

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>>32020121
you could use it to revenge kill it since who the fuck is gonna expect weedle to kill you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 14:04:52 No.32021230 Report

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>>32021129
I'm guessing Sunflora, or Sunkern, off the top of my head.
I know for certain Spinda's is 360 total BST (lawl, get it?)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 14:30:46 No.32021396 Report

Quoted By: >>32021406

>>32015319

Can someone explain to me why this is allowed? This is literally a shitmon tier stat distribution. Hell, even most shitmon aren't THIS blatant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 14:32:40 No.32021406 Report

Quoted By: >>32021558

>>32021396
Please go kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 14:36:41 No.32021427 Report

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>>32020173
Stay mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 14:51:44 No.32021558 Report

Quoted By: >>32024531

>>32021406

Nu-male is mad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 15:14:09 No.32021707 Report

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>>32015601
you can use what's basically two pheromosa on the same team and spam u-turn

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 15:32:03 No.32021815 Report

Quoted By: >>32022636

Are we just posting random BSTs now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 18:13:42 No.32022636 Report

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>>32021815

Yep

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 18:17:48 No.32022664 Report

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>>32015601
Its STAB moves hit harder and it doesn't get buttfucked by Toxapex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 23:08:43 No.32024531 Report

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>>32021558
Nah, just this one has been posted already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 23:11:27 No.32024552 Report

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>>32015436
no, and choice scarf kartana is fucking cancer

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 23:26:13 No.32024638 Report

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>>32019087
>100 BP Fell Stinger

Holy shit, I want to use Mega Beedrill now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2017 23:56:10 No.32024802 Report

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>>32019087
>>Fell Stinger can actually revenge kill stuff and gives +3
Stop it with this Showderp tier meme.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2017 00:33:11 No.32025105 Report

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>>32019630
>uturn making you lose the speed
pls be b8

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2017 05:38:28 No.32027371 Report

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>>32015382
Don't talk shit about my cockroach waifu, you piece of shat!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2017 05:40:25 No.32027385 Report

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>>32015436
>>32015382
>don't make new megas
>but put something just as bad

do you think they'll top mega rayquaza's horseshit with primal Arceus?

they really need to counter the power creep going on since gen 6 (arguably 5)

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