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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 18:53:30 No.32048935 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32048945 >>32051744 >>32052540

ITT: Pokemon faster than Decidueye

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 18:54:16 No.32048945 Report

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>>32048935

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 19:04:31 No.32049060 Report

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 19:05:15 No.32049065 Report

Quoted By: >>32049074 >>32049084

Not Baracat and Trannyseal.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 19:05:46 No.32049069 Report

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 19:06:43 No.32049074 Report

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>>32049065
Incineroar and Primarina have better movesets and stats beyond speed they don't need to be.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 19:08:02 No.32049084 Report

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>>32049065
They don't really need the speed as much as Decidu-sorry, "nu-male", though.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 19:08:51 No.32049091 Report

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Froakie > Rowlet

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 19:09:56 No.32049100 Report

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 19:12:26 No.32049123 Report

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>>32049060
Lapras is base 60 speed. it's slower

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 19:17:11 No.32049159 Report

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 19:35:57 No.32049299 Report

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>>32049159
i LOVE luvdisc!

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 19:40:47 No.32049324 Report

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BIRB UPRISING WHEN?

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 19:51:51 No.32049411 Report

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>Base 70 Speed
>Too slow to be used as a fast sweeper
>Too fast for a trick room team

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 22:32:51 No.32050715 Report

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>>32049074
>Better movesets
No they don't, Incineroar cant even learn knock off or Sucker Punch. Not against you but decidueye's moveset is better than the two. Though not amazing.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 23:13:03 No.32051102 Report

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 23:15:12 No.32051122 Report

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>>32050715
Incineroar
>fake out
>unaware dark type attack
>throat chop

like how you're specifically targeting incineroar

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 23:22:22 No.32051188 Report

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>>32051122
The only good one of these is fake out, but yeah Incineroar will benefit the most from move tutor.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 23:44:54 No.32051422 Report

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>is also faster than its evolution

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Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2017 23:45:58 No.32051437 Report

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 00:14:25 No.32051744 Report

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>>32048935

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 00:47:56 No.32052097 Report

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>How to outspeed almost everything in Alola

>Post anything not from Alola

There, can we get this over with, fucking Meganium can outspeed all three final evolutions and that shit's a big fat green dinosaur with a flower in its neck too.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 01:06:35 No.32052317 Report

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>>32050715
Incineroar is debatable but you can't seriously say Decidueye has a better movepool than Primarina:

Scald, surf, moonblast, dazzling gleam, sparkling aria, hydro pump, psychic, ice beam, blizzard, shadow ball, energy ball, hyper voice...and those are just the purely offensive moves. Primarina also has a decent handful of supportive and defensive moves too.

To say Decidueye has a better moveset than Primarina is just plain foolish, especially when you consider that Primarina gets more out of energy ball and shadow ball than Decidueye does; a pokemon that gets STAB from said moves.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 01:09:11 No.32052337 Report

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this turtle who was literally designed to be a tank is still 8 points than decidueye.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 01:11:49 No.32052364 Report

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>>32052317
Decidueye has good moves too, the best part about Primarina is that it has moves that actually complement its stats perfectly. It's a wallbreaker and it gets pretty much all you could ever want from a wallbreaker.
I guess Moonlight and maybe Calm Mind would give it a different set to use, but I can't really complaint about its moveset as it is.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 01:14:53 No.32052401 Report

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>>32052317
>Especially when you consider that Primarina gets more out of energy ball and shadow ball than Decidueye does; a pokemon that gets STAB from said moves.

You can thank god awful stat distro for Decidueye for that coupled with the fact that Primarina has Sp. Attack up its ass and being THE strongest final starter Sp. Attack wise.

>Primarina has the highest base Special Attack stat, base Special Defense stat, and single base stat of all fully evolved starter Pokémon.

What the fuck even, Game Freak. I know Decidueye's intent was to make it more physical than special even though he's balanced if you can even say that, but for Pete's sake, Water/Fairy is already OP as fuck as a type combination alone, this doesn't sound biased at all.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 01:17:44 No.32052445 Report

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>>32052364
I'm not saying Decidueye's movepool is terrible, it just pales in comparison to Primarinas.

And as an Incineroarfag myself, even I have to admit Decidueye has at least a somewhat better movepool because it has more coverage options, whereas there's not a single move in Incineroars arsenal that can effectively counter water types.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 01:28:35 No.32052540 Report

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>>32048935

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 02:24:02 No.32053022 Report

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>>32048945
I never understood why this fatass cat is so goddamn fast.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 03:43:16 No.32053601 Report

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>>32052401
>when you realise primarina is the greninja of gen 7
>popplio is already the most popular starter in japan
Well shit.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 03:45:22 No.32053614 Report

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>>32053601
I'm a Popplio fan but I really doubt Popplio is the most popular.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 03:54:49 No.32053721 Report

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>>32049074
>Incineroar
Gets the standard Fire type move pool+Fake out and Dark type Chip Away.
>Primarina
Gets like Hydro Pump, Moonblast, Ice Beam, and Energy ball
>Decidueye
Gets a fuck ton of utility. Baton Pass, Defog, Energy Ball, Brave Bird, Roost, Leaf Blade, Haze, Nasty Plot, Swords Dance, Shadow Ball, Spirit Shackle, and U-Turn
It may not be the most viable between the three, but it definitely has the best move pool out of the 3.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 03:57:50 No.32053746 Report

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>>32053721
You sure skipped a lot while listing Primarina's moveset

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 04:03:56 No.32053807 Report

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>>32053614
Judging by Pixiv results, Japan Pokemon Center sales, and that one poll people post sometimes, I'd say the overall lines' popularity in Japan goes with Rowlet at the top and Popplio slightly trailing behind. The Litten line somewhat struggles to catch up with both of them, but that doesn't really mean much because it still has tons of fans anyway.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 04:06:26 No.32053835 Report

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>>32053807
Yeah, this I can agree with.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 04:20:33 No.32053942 Report

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>>32053807
>>32053835
Logic and reason here in /vp/? Get outta here.

>>32052364
>>32052445
>>32050715
I'm >>32049074 and you guys bought up good points, so I concede as a cat chooser.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 10:25:50 No.32055820 Report

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>>32048945
Fpbp

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 14:26:06 No.32056748 Report

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>>32051122
Because Primarina is actually okay. Besides, Decidueye still has Defog and Roost.

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