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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 01:08:04 No.32052331 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32055263 >>32055733

Nova Sun/Umbra Moon thread
>Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6vpz8i7nAY
>Info
https://gbatemp.net/threads/462295/
>Download
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1HpAgxGQiDT9mW6mTtS6MAKQpsQGGG-Q_wtLeXjd-Ty0

I just got destroyed by Nanu. How's everyone doing in the hack?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 01:49:32 No.32052735 Report

Quoted By: >>32053305 >>32057194 >>32059960 >>32064548 >>32064649

Beat the E4 last night, guess all I have left to do is beat Red? Clocked in at ~55 hours.
Biggest complaints
1) early game is a chore at times cause you just don't have the tools to deal with a lot of things, which is really frustrating. I get its supposed to be hard but at times it felt genuinely unfair, and that's no fun. And 2) AI is pretty stupid at times, although I don't know how much you can do about that in a romhack. Oh, and totems were all hella easy too. I imagine this is largely in part to already knowing what to expect; my first playthrough of vanilla Moon I had trouble on a few them. Still, a little disappointing in that regard.

I like the team I ended up with. Meganium was just tossed on there for a grass type but it definitely ended up being the backbone. Lycanroc is now one of my favorite gen7 mons. And I think I mentioned this in a previous thread but Z-Conversion is too good, swept the majority of the E4 with it. And sometimes it seemed like the AI bugged out about the type changing, but it wasn't consistent so idk

All in all I had fun, still don't really like Sun/Moon though and I doubt I will be playing through them again, romhack or no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 01:49:44 No.32052739 Report

Quoted By: >>32053425

Just got through the Hala fight. Glad I took the advice not to nuzlocke this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 03:04:57 No.32053305 Report

Quoted By: >>32053397

>>32052735
Did you actually catch those shinies in your playthrough??

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 03:16:28 No.32053397 Report

Quoted By: >>32053429

>>32053305
No, Marowak's from my Moon version. Didn't really get a chance to use it before this since I had already beat the game when I caught it

Gallade wasn't shiny until today, I just wanted to see what the Mega looked like

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 03:20:51 No.32053425 Report

Quoted By: >>32053429

>>32052739
why would you nuzlocke a rom hack that was made to be challenging, the main purpose of a nuzlocke is to make the game more challenging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 03:21:29 No.32053429 Report

Quoted By: >>32053502

>>32053397
Did the Marowak's refusal to follow commands get on your nerves or did you hack it to match your OT in the hack?
>>32053425
I didn't nuzlocke it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 03:29:41 No.32053499 Report

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>playing shitty difficulty hacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 03:30:08 No.32053502 Report

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>>32053429
I made it match OT, mainly because the boosted experience gets out of hand, even with the way exp scales.
I tried using a traded Croconaw in Star Sapphire a while back, and I thought it was kind of funny how it was so strong but refused to listen most of the time, felt like that gave it some personality. But I did eventually have to get rid of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 05:29:05 No.32054492 Report

Quoted By: >>32054543

Is everyone in this hack ev-trained?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 05:35:41 No.32054543 Report

Quoted By: >>32054563

>>32054492
Enemy trainers get more and more EVs as the game goes on. Early game they don't have many but the curve roughly keeps pace with your own EVs (and the EVs are spread around, very few trainers have 252/252/4 spreads even lategame)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 05:39:01 No.32054563 Report

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>>32054543
I wish I could say the same about movesets

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 06:35:19 No.32054884 Report

Quoted By: >>32055246 >>32055275 >>32059960

I'm on Akala, on my way to the ruins after getting to konikoni city and I'm at my wit's end with this hack.
It's so hard as to feel genuinely bullshit and unfair, and I'm clearly just not dedicated enough to tedious shit like EV training (I did EV train a few of my pokemon but it's made fuck all of a difference) and getting large parts of my team swept by most trainers. Fuck every single team skull fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 07:51:10 No.32055246 Report

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>>32054884
What's your team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 07:55:36 No.32055263 Report

Quoted By: >>32055276 >>32055279

>>32052331
>"Rare pokemon appear more frequently!"

Then it's not rare. What's the fucking point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 08:00:09 No.32055275 Report

Quoted By: >>32055284

>>32054884
salazzle, mudsdale, toucannon, a-muk, trevenant, vikavolt
I started on levelled build and moved on to the expanded one in the hopes of making it less difficult but all of the pokemon I want right now are either on Ula'ula or like route 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 08:00:31 No.32055276 Report

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>>32055263
No pokemon is rare once you've breeded a billion of them for IVs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 08:00:42 No.32055279 Report

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>>32055263
The point is you can play through the game and enjoy pokemon like Mimikyu instead of spending three hours in the grass going for a 5% encounter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 08:01:44 No.32055284 Report

Quoted By: >>32055616

>>32055275
If you're managing to lose with a Mudsdale on your team, you probably shouldn't be playing a hardmode hack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 09:35:25 No.32055616 Report

Quoted By: >>32055738

>>32055284
It's more than possible when pretty much everyone has perfect coverage, an extremely obnoxious stall set, bulk and set up, or raw fuckery power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 10:03:02 No.32055733 Report

Quoted By: >>32059960

>>32052331
I just made it to lush jungle. So far almost everything has been destroyed by Vikavolt or stalled out by Milotic; I bred Haze onto it and it's been ridiculously useful. It made all the Baton Pass and Shell Smash teams trivial, and the early Scald TM right where you catch Feebas just makes it even better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 10:05:38 No.32055738 Report

Quoted By: >>32055827

>>32055616
It's most likely because Alola mons are shit and slow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 10:26:29 No.32055827 Report

Quoted By: >>32055876

>>32055738
I definitely need to pick up more non-alola 'mons but i'm at an inconvenient point where i have a shit team and no good alternatives immediately available without amounts of training i'd rather avoid

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 10:35:04 No.32055860 Report

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>the skull grunt in the first trial is harder than the trial itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 10:40:19 No.32055876 Report

Quoted By: >>32056357

>>32055827
After Kiawe's trial you can use Pelago to EV train or passively level up mons (Although in actual fact the Power item way on SOS chains only takes about a few minutes).

If you really want to cheese it hard you can also use the Rare Kitchen and the like as rare candies but be aware that moves won't get learned if there's a move corresponding to that level.

I'm probably going to use the most OP stuff like Salamence on my run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 13:13:48 No.32056357 Report

Quoted By: >>32058924

>>32055876
I used PKSM to reduce my team's friendship enough to use EV berries and actually properly trained my team, and now the difficulty has reached the goldilocks zone. I apologise for blaming the hack for my laziness

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 14:09:56 No.32056631 Report

Quoted By:

I didn't really EV train my team, just stuck some power items on them and played as normal. Used some EV berries to fix a few glaring problems but other than that they've managed just fine being unoptimized.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 15:31:06 No.32057194 Report

Quoted By: >>32057329 >>32058956

>>32052735
Please tell me that the E4 aren't 100% legendary teams like RR/SS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 15:50:18 No.32057329 Report

Quoted By: >>32057453

>>32057194
They're pretty similar to their original teams actually. Or maybe the same, I don't remember exactly. But totally reasonable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 15:58:17 No.32057386 Report

Quoted By: >>32057413

i'm worried my saves will fuck up if I try to backup or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 16:00:50 No.32057413 Report

Quoted By: >>32058895

>>32057386
You don't have to make a backup, your save's perfectly fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 16:06:22 No.32057453 Report

Quoted By:

>>32057329
Thanks anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 19:11:48 No.32058895 Report

Quoted By:

>>32057413
What do you mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 19:16:40 No.32058924 Report

Quoted By:

>>32056357
>reduce friendship enough to use EV berries
you can actually use those even if your pokemon have full friendship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 19:18:45 No.32058944 Report

Quoted By: >>32059100

Managed to beat it a week ago or so, I really enjoyed it, but I feel like the beginning was unfair. Subseed (Or was it spore/seed?) Paras at route 1, really?

My final team was Mimikyu/Primarina/Tyranitar/Ampharos/Zygarde 10%/Venusaur

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 19:20:00 No.32058956 Report

Quoted By:

>>32057194
hack dev explained why there are no legendaries on trainer teams this time around
>With RRSS, I was painted into a corner by the player's EV progression. Since Trainers can't have EVs in Gen VI games, the only way to even come close to the raw stats of a fully EV'd (not optimized, just natural EVs) Pokémon was to abuse high BST mons in the endgame. In Sun and Moon, I can just create an EV curve to match the Level curve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 19:43:38 No.32059100 Report

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>>32058944
>Subseed (Or was it spore/seed?) Paras at route 1
You picked Popplio, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 19:51:31 No.32059176 Report

Quoted By: >>32059185

so how much of a hassle is it to bounce between your vanilla save and this romhack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 19:53:01 No.32059185 Report

Quoted By: >>32059211

>>32059176
Not doable because of the level curve. Ridiculously easy in terms of enabling/disabling the hack, but any NSUM save will be incredibly overpowered in Sun/Moon (and any Sun/Moon save will be drastically underpowered in NSUM)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 19:56:55 No.32059211 Report

Quoted By: >>32059246

>>32059185
i mean if i want to play the normal game with my current save and the romhack with its own save, is it easy to just switch between them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 19:58:53 No.32059227 Report

Quoted By: >>32059615 >>32060090

Does citra work on mac?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 20:04:04 No.32059246 Report

Quoted By: >>32059672

>>32059211
Yeah, that's easy. Just use JKSM or PKSM to back up your saves and switch between them. Alternatively, just pirate the other version of the game and run the romhack on that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 20:52:46 No.32059615 Report

Quoted By:

>>32059227
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 20:58:56 No.32059672 Report

Quoted By: >>32059689

>>32059246
So I have my main game save now in JKSM. Now I go into the romhack and create a new save, and when I want to swap I back it up, and reload the main game save again?
And when I want to change off the romhack, I go to Luma settings, switch "Enable region/language emu. and ext. .code" off and boom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 21:00:49 No.32059689 Report

Quoted By: >>32059700

>>32059672
Yup
Still think it would be easier if you just got Sun and Moon and put the romhack on whichever one you're not actively playing right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 21:02:24 No.32059700 Report

Quoted By: >>32059775 >>32062583

>>32059689
I try to avoid pirating games desu, there's still that paranoia that makes me think I'll get a threat letter or something even though it's virtually impossible
that, and I don't have enough space on my SD now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 21:12:18 No.32059775 Report

Quoted By: >>32059803

>>32059700
you know what fuck it, i had space after all
this'll be an expensive romhack if it comes to that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 21:14:13 No.32059803 Report

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>>32059775
Reported to Nintendo cops

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 21:38:08 No.32059960 Report

Quoted By:

>>32052735
can't change battle formats for sm, which is why you end up steamrolling nearly everything by mid to endgame if you tailor your team for it. single battles are too easy to cheese with setup moves like swords dance and z-conversion. the earliest you can do this (in expanded build) is with porygon with z-conversion and drilbur/excadrill with swords dance

>>32054884
it's a lot easier if you plan a team out before you actually start, but i guess that's pointless to say now. you really, really don't want to catch pokemon later rather than sooner, because the move reminder is all the way at the pokemon league

>>32055733
i used pyukumuku to counter enemy setup, it's hilarious. sadly unless you trade (or hack) in another pyukumuku, it can't learn baton pass until you reach the pokemon league

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 21:56:04 No.32060090 Report

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>>32059227
You have to compile it manually if I recall correctly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Mar 2017 22:53:13 No.32060556 Report

Quoted By: >>32062317 >>32062541

Where is the 6 iv in-game trade Ditto? I can't find her!!!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 01:19:32 No.32061952 Report

Quoted By: >>32062525

Haha, RNG abuse works on this romhack just like it does on the original.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 01:51:49 No.32062317 Report

Quoted By: >>32063916

>>32060556
pokecenter before lana's trial

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 02:06:48 No.32062525 Report

Quoted By: >>32062534

>>32061952
Of course it would, what could possibly be different

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 02:07:25 No.32062534 Report

Quoted By: >>32064719

>>32062525
The eggs generate and hatch in like 5 seconds though. Crazy stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 02:07:50 No.32062541 Report

Quoted By: >>32062713

>>32060556
it's literally in the trailer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 02:10:44 No.32062583 Report

Quoted By: >>32064290

>>32059700
>threat letter

lmao dont believe everything you read faggit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 02:22:14 No.32062713 Report

Quoted By: >>32063896

>>32062541
who watches a trailer for a rom hack
i rarely even watch trailers for real games anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 04:49:15 No.32063896 Report

Quoted By:

>>32062713
>video has 10k views on vimeo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 04:57:35 No.32063916 Report

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>>32062317
thanks pal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 06:05:30 No.32064290 Report

Quoted By: >>32064310 >>32064326

>>32062583
hey there's been those for downloading some series/movies here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 06:09:23 No.32064310 Report

Quoted By: >>32064338

>>32064290
3DS piracy is much safer considering downloads are through Nintendo's official servers instead of a trackable source like torrents or Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 06:12:05 No.32064326 Report

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>>32064290
That's only in some countries, you can download whatever you want here and they don't give a fuck. I use private trackers anyway so I'll never get a letter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 06:15:25 No.32064338 Report

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>>32064310
This is incorrect. Mega is a DDL service so it's impossible to track who is downloading. The only reason why Torrent dls get tracked are because the copyright authorities open their own torrent client and monitor people who download because they are in the swarm.

For example, everyone in the swarm can see who is downloading - this is public information which of course can be made private by using a VPN since the server that the VPN is running off will show up as the 'computer downloading' rather than the person's home computer

Now this isn't the case if you're uploading to mega. If you're uploading to mega, they can say 'HEY THAT PERSON UPLOADED MY FILES, REMOVE IT' and the link will die (although you won't get punished in any way as a result of it because someone could call themselves asdlfasdnflasdkfnalkds and have an email address of [email protected])

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 06:56:35 No.32064548 Report

Quoted By: >>32066330

>>32052735
>P-Star
Wonderful name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 07:18:34 No.32064649 Report

Quoted By: >>32064667

>>32052735
Why are you using Galladite on Gallade? You can't mega evolve until postgame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 07:21:59 No.32064667 Report

Quoted By: >>32064689

>>32064649
He is in postgame, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 07:31:00 No.32064689 Report

Quoted By: >>32066330

>>32064667
I thought he was showing off his Elite Four team including items used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 07:39:41 No.32064719 Report

Quoted By: >>32064778 >>32064819

>>32062534
The only thing they changed was the number of hatch cycles, so everything hatches in 255 steps. They're still generated the same way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 07:58:27 No.32064778 Report

Quoted By:

>>32064719
Not even "in 255 steps". They hatch on the first cycle that passes once the egg is in your party. Meaning that if the Egg Cycle is currently at 254/255, the egg will hatch in one step. You can see an example of this in the video trailer, where the player obtains an Eevee Egg and barely moves before it hatches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 08:14:10 No.32064819 Report

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>>32064719
Almost everything hatches in like 12 steps or something ridiculously great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 15:01:13 No.32066330 Report

Quoted By:

>>32064689
It is postgame, but the only thing different is Gallade was holding Choice Band or Scarf

>>32064548
Thank you, I think so too. If I ever get around to hatching a shiny I'll upgrade it to 2.0

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 15:04:30 No.32066346 Report

Quoted By: >>32066357 >>32070069 >>32070116

Holy fuck these early routes are absolute fucking shit, there's nothing I can fucking do with this pokemon distribution

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 15:06:22 No.32066357 Report

Quoted By: >>32066365

>>32066346
where are you right now

if you have version 1.0, try catching rotom on route 1 and immediately upgrade it to rotom-w or rotom-h at kukui's lab depending on what type you need

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 15:07:42 No.32066365 Report

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>>32066357
1.3 or whatever the fuck was the newest
It's just complete ass to have some stalling deerling fuck you over with synthesis and leech seed on route 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 16:22:59 No.32066713 Report

Quoted By: >>32066960 >>32071752 >>32071938

>haha wouldn't it be hard if we slapped thunder wave right away on your pokemon when you have no access to ground types haha
>and don't even try swapping because i'll paralyze you again haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 16:37:22 No.32066782 Report

Quoted By: >>32066801

does this change types, bst or movesets at all? because that's the only reason to play these hacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 16:39:57 No.32066801 Report

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>>32066782
No type changes, no BST changes and all of the moveset changes are just so a Pokemon learns a move earlier (Marowak-A learning Shadow Bone after evolving instead of level 27, for example)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 17:05:40 No.32066960 Report

Quoted By: >>32067784

>>32066713
that's what affection is for

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 19:06:07 No.32067784 Report

Quoted By:

>>32066960
You're not supposed to have refresh bonuses, otherwise you level up too fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 23:31:39 No.32070069 Report

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>>32066346
I didn't have any problem, playing the Legit Build and using Litten/Spinarak/Pikipek/Slowpoke/Grimer-A/Magnemite

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Mar 2017 23:35:54 No.32070116 Report

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>>32066346
I solo'd the early game with just a Rowlet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 00:44:11 No.32070783 Report

Quoted By: >>32070945

Does someone know how can I see/edit the files from the SaltySD method? I tried dragging the folders into PK3DS but something must be missing cause it threw me an error

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 00:56:57 No.32070945 Report

Quoted By: >>32070982

>>32070783
You need a full extracted ROM to use PK3DS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 00:59:57 No.32070982 Report

Quoted By:

>>32070945
Got it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 01:42:31 No.32071529 Report

Quoted By: >>32071639

Is it okay to use it if its my first time playing SM?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 01:54:48 No.32071639 Report

Quoted By: >>32071653

>>32071529
It'll be much harder but honestly it shouldn't be that bad as your first run through the game, it generally keeps the same flavor as the main game

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 01:56:54 No.32071653 Report

Quoted By: >>32071737 >>32073645

>>32071639
a-alright here goes nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 02:06:00 No.32071737 Report

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>>32071653
Make sure you use Leveled or Expanded build, Legit and Lite mean you'll have to grind anything you want to use mid to late-game. Since it's your first time playing Sun/Moon, Leveled might be the best build for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 02:07:56 No.32071752 Report

Quoted By:

>>32066713
Electric types can't be paralyzed too you know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 02:25:28 No.32071938 Report

Quoted By:

>>32066713
>paralysis is a death sentence

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 05:57:06 No.32073645 Report

Quoted By: >>32074306

>>32071653
how's your experience so far

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:16:46 No.32074306 Report

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>>32073645
He's dead jim.

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