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Take your favorite Pokemon and flip its stats. How much better/worse is it?

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 06:24:34 No.32073769 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32074077 >>32076683 >>32081867 >>32083296 >>32083323

Araquanid

HP: 68 --> 42
Atk: 70 --> 132
Def: 92 --> 50
Sp. Atk: 50 --> 92
Sp. Def: 132 --> 70
Spe: 42 --> 68

Not bad. Needs Tailwind support, and I wish it got Aqua Jet, but this thing hits insanely hard physically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 06:48:06 No.32073852 Report

Quoted By: >>32073863

Chansey

HP: 250 -> 35
Atk: 5 -> 250
Def: 5 -> 5
SpA: 35 -> 5
SpD: 105 -> 50
Spe: 50 -> 105

Chansey @ Normalium-Z
-Sing
-Egg Bomb
-Earthquake
-Fire Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 06:49:18 No.32073859 Report

Quoted By: >>32073863 >>32073950 >>32073971

>Blissey
HP: 55
Atk: 135
Def: 75
SpAtk: 10
SpDef: 10
Speed: 255

yeah its ok I guess :v)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 06:50:22 No.32073863 Report

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>>32073852
>>32073859
whoa didnt even update the thread as i was posting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 06:53:58 No.32073888 Report

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>it still keeps water bubble

STOP ANON YOU'LL DESTR-

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 06:54:30 No.32073889 Report

Quoted By: >>32074314

HP: 35
Attack: 65
Defense: 65
Sp. Attack: 85
Sp. Defense: 85
Speed: 95

Well that sucks.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 06:55:37 No.32073893 Report

Quoted By: >>32074147 >>32082485

HP: 43
Atk: 53
Def: 97
SpA: 53
SpD: 101
Spe: 223

New fastest Pokemon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:06:03 No.32073936 Report

Quoted By: >>32078499

Keckleon.
60>40
90>120
70>60
60>70
120>90
40>60
It's.. ok? Would be literal trash without scarf but might see use in UU maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:10:16 No.32073950 Report

Quoted By: >>32073959 >>32073971

>>32073859
Actually, it would look more like:
HP: 55
Atk: 135
Def: 75
Sp Atk: 10
Sp Def: 10
Speed: 255

Thicc and fast, just how I like em

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:13:23 No.32073959 Report

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>>32073950
Are you a grill

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:14:57 No.32073966 Report

Quoted By: >>32074314 >>32079460

Supesize gourgeist
85--->54
100--->75
122--->58
58--->122
75-->100
54--->85
Would you use it now? I would use super thicc pumpkin waifu more than I do now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:15:40 No.32073971 Report

Quoted By: >>32074054

>>32073859
>>32073950
>Actually it would look more like this!
>changes nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:24:29 No.32074002 Report

Quoted By: >>32074011

75 --> 40
125 --> 90
140 --> 60
60 --> 140
90 --> 125
40 --> 75

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:26:00 No.32074011 Report

Quoted By: >>32074314

>>32074002
Forgot pic
Slap a scarf or specs on it and it might be good in UU as a sweeper or wallbreaker

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:33:17 No.32074038 Report

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HP:115
ATK:65
DEF:65
SPA:60
SPD:70
SPE:65
Bulky fur coat user but shit tier speed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:38:04 No.32074054 Report

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>>32073971
Fuck, I thought I was looking at Chansey. Sorry about that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:40:58 No.32074062 Report

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HP: 132
Atk: 71
Def: 153
SpA: 67
SpD: 145
Spe: 72

Thickk aero-ass

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:45:54 No.32074077 Report

Quoted By: >>32074097

>>32073769
Swampert

HP: 100 --> 60
Atk: 110 --> 90
Def: 90 --> 85
SpA: 85 --> 90
SpD: 90 --> 110
Spe: 60 --> 100

It would be an effective Sweepert.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:51:13 No.32074094 Report

Quoted By: >>32079648

Jirachi
HP: 100->100
Atk: 100->100
Def: 100->100
SpAtk: 100->100
SpDef: 100->100
Spd: 100->100

it's now OP

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:52:59 No.32074097 Report

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>>32074077
HP: 50 -> 90
Atk: 50 -> 77
Def: 77 -> 95
SpA: 95 -> 77
SpD: 77 -> 50
Spe: 91 -> 50

Welp that went terribly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 07:56:50 No.32074107 Report

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HP 104
AT 100
DEF 114
SP.A 72
SP.D 69
SPE 75

Wow delphox is shit no matter the circumstances

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 08:09:52 No.32074143 Report

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HP: 150 -> 90
Atk: 100 -> 120
Def: 120 - > 100
SpA: 100 -> 120
SpD: 120 - > 100
Spe: 90 -> 150

Basically a much faster, less bulky version of Origin Forme. Hmm...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 08:11:07 No.32074147 Report

Quoted By:

>>32073893
Those attack stats though...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 08:58:51 No.32074261 Report

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Tropius

HP: 51
Attack: 87
Def: 72
Sp.Atk: 83
Sp.Def: 68
Speed: 99

Doesn't hit hard enough to justify its frailty, but maybe it can be a Dragon Dancer in NU.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:02:35 No.32074268 Report

Quoted By: >>32074319

5 HP
230 Atk
10 Def
230 SpA
10 SpD
20 Spe

it's good in trick room :^)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:07:03 No.32074278 Report

Quoted By: >>32075036

Tyrantrum
HP 82 -> 82
Attack 121-> 121
Defense 119 -> 71
Sp Attack 69 -> 59
Sp Def 59 -> 69
Speed 71 ->119

With Dragon Dance might finally be good enough for gen 7s UU and choice band becomes actually viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:09:57 No.32074283 Report

Quoted By: >>32074314 >>32074331

>everyone just slaps the highest stat on speed
you guys don't know shit about pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:13:42 No.32074290 Report

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Azumarill
HP: 50
Attack: 80
Defense: 50
Sp. Atk: 80
Sp. Def: 60
Speed: 100

It hits harder and is faster, not remarkable speed but still something

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:16:37 No.32074305 Report

Quoted By: >>32080526

HP: 110
ATK: 75
DEF: 130
SPA: 60
SPD: 65
SPE: 60

physical wall gengar
might be neat if his movepool wasn't so garbage as a result

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:20:11 No.32074314 Report

Quoted By: >>32074331

>>32074283
Pretty much this

idk why people slap more speed on these pokemon when speed is not the main issue these pokemon have then again i'm a shit player

>>32073889 >>32074011 >>32073966

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:21:38 No.32074317 Report

Quoted By: >>32074375 >>32074433 >>32079587

>Shedinja
HP: 40
ATK: 30
DEF: 30
SPA: 45
SPD: 90
SPE: 1

Huh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:24:23 No.32074319 Report

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>>32074268
It'd be a fucking nightmare in doubles.
>Follow me/wide guard support and trick room
>Shell smash
>Earthquake
>Stone Edge for anything that can't be hit by Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:26:27 No.32074322 Report

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Blastoise

HP 100
Att 78
Def 105
Spa 83
SpD 79
Spe 85

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:28:37 No.32074331 Report

Quoted By:

>>32074283
>>32074314
This thread is about reversing the order of the stats in case you haven't noticed.
HP -> Speed
Attack -> Special defense
Defense -> Special attack
Special attack -> Defense
Special defense -> Attack
Speed -> HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:41:32 No.32074356 Report

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Blastoise

HP 78
Attack 105
Defense 85
Special attack 100
Special defense 83
Speed 79

Blastoise - Mega

HP - 78
Attack -> 115
Defense -> 135
Special attack 120
Special defense 103
Speed 78

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 09:48:15 No.32074375 Report

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>>32074317
>Shedinja is still hardwired to have 1 HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 10:18:32 No.32074433 Report

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>>32074317
literally the Deoxy-S of Trick Room

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 10:34:47 No.32074468 Report

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HP 120
Atk 85
Def 105
S.A 65
S.D 85
Spe 70

HP 145
Atk 85
Def 145
S.A 75
S.D 115
Spe 70

Well, a shit defensive typing does not hep him in the slightest.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 10:45:36 No.32074497 Report

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HP: 86 -> 106
Atk: 68 -> 72
Def: 72 -> 68
SpA: 109 -> 66
SpD: 66 -> 109
Spe: 106 -> 86

discount ninetales

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 11:17:44 No.32074570 Report

Quoted By:

HP: 90->80
Attack:100->150
Defense: 70->110
SpAtk: 110->70
SpDef: 150->100
Speed: 80->90

I'm no expert but I feel this is a great shift into a much more offensive goodra, would benefit from tailwind and if it got dragon dance it would fucking destroy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 12:26:17 No.32074767 Report

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HP: 95 ----> 28
Atk: 117 ---> 46
Def: 184 --> 44
SpA: 44 ---> 184
SpD: 46 --> 117
Spe: 28 --> 95
Ice finally has a good special attacker, one that isn't slow and bulky.
Too bad that high SpDef is wasted on base 28 HP.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 12:47:19 No.32074847 Report

Quoted By: >>32079379

65
110
95
60
130
65

it's even worse

Klinklang Guy

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Klinklang Guy Wed 15 Mar 2017 13:07:41 No.32074901 Report

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Klinklang

HP: 60 --> 90
Attack: 100 --> 80
Defense: 115 --> 70
Special Attack: 70 --> 115
Special Defense: 80 --> 100
Speed: 90 --> 60

Its special moves are more useful now. Still lacks coverage, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 13:43:10 No.32075036 Report

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>>32074278
What on earth is this? This isn't reversing at all

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 13:53:09 No.32075073 Report

Quoted By: >>32075464

HP: 70
Atk: 100
Def: 100
SpAtk: 75
SpDef: 107
Speed: 78

HP: 60
Atk: 90
Def: 80
SpAtk: 90
SpDef: 115
Speed: 95

HP: 60
Atk: 116
Def: 126
SpAtk: 74
SpDef: 74
Speed: 80

Are they better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 13:55:11 No.32075077 Report

Quoted By:

Hoopa-U

80 HP
130 ATK
170 DEF
60 SP. ATK
160 SP. DEF
80 SPE

One of the best bulky offensive mons in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 15:20:43 No.32075464 Report

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Bizarro Tyranitar
100 -> 61
134 -> 100
110 -> 95
95 -> 110
100 -> 134
61 -> 100
Basically Goofuck you Slugfucker, because of you the system thinks this post is spamdra only less optimized and with a worse typing.

Mega Bizarro Tyranitar
100 -> 71
164 -> 120
150 -> 95
95 -> 150
120 -> 164
71 -> 100
Significantly better than non-Mega Bizarro Tyranitar. Might make for a decent Special tank.

Of course, if Bizarro Sand boosts the Attack of Rock-types instead of their Special Defense, both versions of Bizarro Tyranitar become devastating wallbreakers.
>>32075073
It looks like they're all worse.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 15:29:20 No.32075508 Report

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Mega Gallade

>HP: 68 --> 110
>Atk: 165 --> 65
>Def: 95 --> 115
>S. Atk: 65 --> 165
>S. Def: 115 --> 95
>Speed: 110 --> 68

R.I.P.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 17:51:09 No.32076505 Report

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>Raichu
HP: 110
Atk: 80
Def: 90
Sp. Atk: 55
Sp. Def: 90
Spd: 60

>Gardevoir
HP: 80
Atk: 115
Def: 125
Sp. Atk: 65
Sp. Def: 65
Spd: 68

Wow both are shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 18:09:57 No.32076683 Report

Quoted By:

>>32073769
That's a great gen 3 style Araquanid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 18:11:03 No.32076695 Report

Quoted By:

Flygon:
80 --> 100
100 --> 80
80 --> 80
80 --> 80
80 -->100
100 -->80

Metagross:
80 --> 70
135 --> 90
130 --> 95
95 --> 130
90 -->135
70 -->80

M-Metagross:
80 --> 110
145 --> 110
150 --> 105
105 --> 150
110 --> 145
110 --> 80

Flygon was already a shit Pokemon, he just get shafted even more than usual. Metagross becomes a Special attack, too bad MMeta's ability is wasted.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 18:41:08 No.32076942 Report

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HP- 50
Atk- 80
Def- 60
SpA- 230
SpD- 140
Spe- 70

Welcome to die! Mega Aggron is now one of the best wallbreakers in the game. Remember, the metal tankbeast gets Flash Cannon and Ice-Bolt for coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 21:48:40 No.32078499 Report

Quoted By: >>32080567

>>32073936
>Would be literal trash without scarf

Noelkcek @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protean
Fake Out
Sucker Punch
Shadow Sneak
Drain Punch

120 base Attack priority user with Protean isn't "literal trash".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 23:36:34 No.32079379 Report

Quoted By:

>>32074847
95 def instead of 60 is nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2017 23:46:04 No.32079460 Report

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>>32073966
This is great. Now Gourgeist can finally make use of Flamethrower.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 00:02:55 No.32079587 Report

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>>32074317
>Under Trick Room

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 00:07:56 No.32079648 Report

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>>32074094
o you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 00:13:17 No.32079705 Report

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HP: 68 --> 80
Atk: 65 --> 65
Def: 65 --> 115
SpAtk: 125 --> 68
SpDef: 115 --> 125
Speed: 80 --> 65

I don't think this is all that much better, but the obvious choice would be to simply flip SpDef and Speed, and I don't think that's its style.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 01:31:55 No.32080454 Report

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I would only quiteria the special attack and I would sucker punch
HP: 95
Atk: 135
Def: 90
SpA: 10
SPD: 90
Spe: 110

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 01:41:52 No.32080526 Report

Quoted By: >>32081705

>>32074305

Gengar's movepool is amazing though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 01:46:45 No.32080567 Report

Quoted By: >>32081705

>>32078499
It is.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 01:52:44 No.32080614 Report

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HP: 105
Attack: 60
Defense: 60
Sp. Atk: 120
Sp. Def: 60
Speed: 105
God i never knew how shit its stats were
AND REMOVE TEAM PREVIEW

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 03:48:56 No.32081705 Report

Quoted By: >>32082098

>>32080526
And how much of that movepool is suited for physical walling?

>>32080567
Prove it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 04:18:39 No.32081867 Report

Quoted By: >>32082365

>>32073769
HP: 89 > 55
Atk: 124 > 80
Def: 80 > 55
SpD: 80 > 124
Spe: 55 > 89

Why must Golurk be forever cursed to being a shitmon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 04:57:36 No.32082098 Report

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>>32081705
Wisp, knock off, elemental punches, counter, boom, shadow claw/pjab for stabs, destiny pond?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 05:49:52 No.32082365 Report

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>>32081867
>He's so bad he doesn't even have a special attack stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 06:10:36 No.32082485 Report

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>>32073893
Use a dragon tail set :+)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 06:12:53 No.32082494 Report

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>Drapion
70 > 95
90 > 75
110 > 60
60 > 110
75 > 90
95 > 70

Yeah, that's worse.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 06:14:04 No.32082499 Report

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HP: 116
Atk: 75
Def: 77
SAtk: 85
SDef: 67
Spe: 60

Well, Prankster shores up the low speed (except for all the new ways to fuck priority over), and the extra special attack and bulk isn't too bad either. Also super fat subs that befit the pokemon the merch wing tried to associate with Substitute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 09:34:08 No.32083296 Report

Quoted By: >>32083680

>>32073769
Ho-oh

HP: 106 --> 90
Atk: 130 --> 154
Def: 90 --> 110
Sp. Atk: 110 --> 90
Sp. Def: 154 --> 130
Spe: 90 --> 106

Is it AG now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 09:38:51 No.32083323 Report

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>>32073769
Mewtwo-Y

HP: 106 - 140
Attack: 150 - 120
Defense: 70 - 194
Sp. Atk: 194 -70
Sp. Def: 120 - 150
Speed: 140 -106

Well...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 09:50:08 No.32083374 Report

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70>70
90>60
70>60
60>70
60>90
70>70
>mfw it's even worse than before

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 11:06:01 No.32083680 Report

Quoted By:

>>32083296
HP: 100 - 90
Attack: 180 - 90
Defense: 160 - 150
Sp. Atk: 150 - 160
Sp. Def: 90 - 180
Speed: 90 - 100

Primal Groudon would be

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