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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 00:41:15 No.32116534 View View Reply Original Report

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Why did sprites become so mundane after gen 2?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 00:45:37 No.32116565 Report

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>>32116534
I'm not sure but back-sprites improved a lot

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 00:54:03 No.32116643 Report

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>smooth lines

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 00:55:49 No.32116660 Report

Quoted By: >>32116720 >>32117509 >>32117675

>there will never be a generation that surpasses the brilliance and ingenuity of gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 00:56:47 No.32116664 Report

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>>32116534

It's really just a case of the sprites becoming more consistent with the official art

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 00:59:18 No.32116683 Report

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>>32116534
>filters
>stretching

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 01:04:46 No.32116720 Report

Quoted By: >>32116751

>>32116660
Was there even any other gen that let you go back to the previous generation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 01:09:10 No.32116749 Report

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>>32116534
After gen 2 they focused on making the sprites match the official artwork almost exactly, which also were more mundane and less dynamic than the watercolour art

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 01:09:40 No.32116751 Report

Quoted By: >>32116957

>>32116720

No

And thank god, why would would anyone want to go back to a shitty, half-assed, watered-down version of the previous generation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 01:34:19 No.32116957 Report

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>>32116751
It did trigger nostalgia even back at release, but if it wasn't cut down drastically (updated maps for Safari Zone and the Pewter Museum of Science exist in the ROM) it would've been even neater

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 01:35:13 No.32116964 Report

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>>32116534
Crystal sprites have more than 2 frames, that's why

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 01:37:05 No.32116979 Report

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>>32116534
>after gen 2
You mean after gen 5. The 3d models are Shit and lack personality, but it's hardly fair to say the they became Shit before then. Gen 5 sprites were cool af.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 01:45:03 No.32117075 Report

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>>32116534

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:11:26 No.32117345 Report

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>>32116979
>Gen 5 sprites were cool af

Ahahahaha

They were just the Gen 4 sprites with shitty 2-3 frame animations added

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:20:21 No.32117421 Report

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Because the art style became more concrete

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:24:13 No.32117451 Report

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Gen 1 golbat may be in top 5 pokemon, such a shame they changed it and gave it a underwhelming evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:25:06 No.32117461 Report

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>>32117345
Better than just static sprites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:26:00 No.32117467 Report

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>>32117345
That really only applies to old mons. Most of the Unova mons had pretty good moving sprites with a handful of old mons as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:28:39 No.32117496 Report

Quoted By: >>32117624

Lots of Pokemon's sprites in the first two gens looked weird compared to their artwork

Hell, even Gen 3 had a few cases of this (Nosepass's sprite looking like shit, Zangoose's claws being purple instead of black, and Salamence being the wrong shade of blue)

It wasn't until Gen 4 that the sprites finally started being completely accurate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:30:06 No.32117507 Report

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Alright, rate sprites per generation

HGSS > rest of gen 4 >> Gen 2 > Gen 5 >> Gen 3 >>> gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:30:26 No.32117509 Report

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>>32116660
literally every gen after it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:30:50 No.32117513 Report

Quoted By: >>32117517 >>32117566 >>32117611

On the topic can we talk about all the cries butchered between the transition to gen 6?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N54oZRUz_fs

I can't barely recognize some honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:31:41 No.32117517 Report

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>>32117513
I've never understood the buttrage over this, they mostly sound fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:31:40 No.32117518 Report

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I like better the 3d models Desu desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:35:19 No.32117566 Report

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>>32117513

They sound mostly the same, they just updated the sound quality

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:35:27 No.32117568 Report

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>>32116534
Because Masuda.
Somehow they let the music composer directed the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:35:34 No.32117571 Report

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>>32117467
A lot of the Hoenn Dex got new sprites for gen 5 too, come to think of it.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:38:53 No.32117611 Report

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>>32117513
>Raichu's cry is just a regular mouse squeak now
Pisses me off, I miss the 8-bit shriek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:40:17 No.32117624 Report

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>>32117496
In gen 3 the artworks were done after the sprites iirc. Actually I find the latters better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:42:12 No.32117643 Report

Quoted By: >>32117676

>>32117611
>pikachu, and pikachu only, says its name
Fucking why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:46:25 No.32117675 Report

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>>32116534
>>32116660
>Gold's sprites are different than Silver's sprites
Gen II is so good. It's a shame we never got this feature again.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:46:28 No.32117676 Report

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>>32117643
I know people here hate the idea of this happening but I'd rather have anime cries instead of the butchered updated ones.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:47:04 No.32117681 Report

Quoted By: >>32117703

>they didn't use the Stadium cries

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:49:28 No.32117703 Report

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>>32117676
I don't know, I think its just too weird honestly. Maybe its because I never really watched the anime but pokemon speaking at all other then meowth or something like chatot is just too weird for me.
>>32117681
I really like these a lot, sounded natural and faithful.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:53:30 No.32117732 Report

Quoted By: >>32117777

>>32117675
A few sprites between the Japanese and international sprites were also slightly edited.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:55:01 No.32117745 Report

Quoted By: >>32117765

I hope they go back to sprites on the Switch. I'm tired of the 3D Pokemon meme.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:56:29 No.32117758 Report

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>>32116534
>Why did sprites become so mundane after gen 2?

Because Gamefreak are lazy hacks. Remember, the fucking gbc had platformers and even a few fighting games that had more going on in the screen than any pre gen 6 pokemon game did during battle, but it took the end of the DS life to get the trashy tweening and twisting sprites used in BW.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:57:10 No.32117765 Report

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>>32117745

>Downgrading back to sprites on a console with superior hardware

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:58:46 No.32117774 Report

Quoted By: >>32117817

>>32117758
>Remember, the fucking gbc had platformers and even a few fighting games that had more going on in the screen than any pre gen 6 pokemon game did during battle

There's a difference between 8-bit sprites and detailed high-poly models

Jesus, /vp/ never ceases to amaze its retardedness

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 02:59:01 No.32117777 Report

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>>32117732
For what purpose?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 03:03:21 No.32117817 Report

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>>32117774
>anon roasts himself: the post

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 03:05:38 No.32117836 Report

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>>32117777
Nice quads.

The thing is when you give a pokemon a certain detail you will have to remember that detail forever. For example that underbelly on slowpoke, now any time slowpoke is shown it is expected to have that detail. Why they gave them those details was either they thought it looked good or added to their designs.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 03:06:10 No.32117841 Report

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>>32117765
Not him but i will take good spritework over mediocre 3D everyday

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 04:16:22 No.32118794 Report

Quoted By: >>32118827

>>32116534
>sprites
It's 2017. we have 3d now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 04:19:04 No.32118827 Report

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>>32118794
And it's fucking shit

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 04:19:20 No.32118833 Report

Quoted By: >>32118910

I wish it still did stuff like this in it's animations.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 04:23:50 No.32118910 Report

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>>32118833
>we will never have a new retro-style Pokémon game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:51:55 No.32119476 Report

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>>32116534
Because they use more than four colours. RSE sprites look more rounded, almost pre-rendered. Gen four sprites don't involve dithering and use less colours than RSE, so they look cartoonish but the poses are uninteresting so there's a lot of character missing. I prefer RSE but the GSC sprites for me seem like a perfect use of the hardware given the limitations.

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