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Buffs to Mons

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:09:02 No.32119265 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32119268 >>32119276 >>32119302 >>32119490

Can you think of some more?

Golurk - 20+ Defense and Sp. Defense

Araquanid - 10+ HP

Golisopod - Emergency Exit activates at the end of the turn.

Spearow - Gets Keen Eye
Fearow - 20+ Attack and gets Defiant

What do you think?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:09:37 No.32119268 Report

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>>32119265
For Spearow, I meant Big Pecks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:10:48 No.32119276 Report

Quoted By: >>32119323 >>32119874

>>32119265
All good except for Fearow, you gotta give it something less shitty than Defiant. Maybe some real coverage, 10 speed and Moxie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:13:51 No.32119302 Report

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>>32119265
Add to Golisopod Expert or Make Emergency Exit buff priority moves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:14:01 No.32119304 Report

Quoted By: >>32119464

Replace Steadfast with Defiant or Stamina

Give Dynamic Punch 120 BP

Won't make it OU, but enough to keep the offensive presence, some survivability and keeps it from being one trick pony with a new ability

At least that's the most i can do without tweaking the stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:15:59 No.32119323 Report

Quoted By: >>32119338 >>32119351

>>32119276
OK, how about this?

Fearow - 20+ Attack and 10+ Speed, gets Moxie as an ability and gains Poison Jab

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:19:04 No.32119338 Report

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>>32119323
Oh and it also gets Knock Off and Brave Bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:21:52 No.32119351 Report

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>>32119323
Yes, wonderful. Also
>Fearow doesn't get brave bird

What kind of fuckery is this?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:28:43 No.32119387 Report

Quoted By: >>32119444

HP 95 -> 80
Def 90 -> 70
SpDef 90 -> 70
SpAtk 80 ->70

Atk 115 -> 125
Spd 60 -> 115

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:41:13 No.32119444 Report

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>>32119387
>Bulky, massive bodybuilder-type with stubby legs
>Fast

All signs point to no, have you SEEN Machamp, Conkeldurr, Buzzwole, etc.?

What it needs is a drastic cut in Sp Atk and an increase to bulk and attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:49:00 No.32119464 Report

Quoted By: >>32120481

>>32119304
AV Stamina Machamp would be fucking unbreakable if it learns drain punch, I want it so bad

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:54:11 No.32119490 Report

Quoted By: >>32119505 >>32119506

>>32119265
Liquid voice now gives the 1.2 boost

Atk: 74 > 70 (-4)
Def: 74 > 90 (+16)
SpAtk: 126 > 120 (-6)
SpDef: 116 > 110 (-6)

Gets calm mind and moonlight

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:57:31 No.32119505 Report

Quoted By: >>32119512

>>32119490
Chop 20 out of ATK and put it into HP, it has to be bulky to make up for literally no recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:57:50 No.32119506 Report

Quoted By: >>32119517

>>32119490
Oh wait, are we thinking of the kinds of buffs gamefreak would give, like with this gen? Then I take back the stat changes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:58:33 No.32119512 Report

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>>32119505
Durr I'm an idiot who only reads base stats, my bad. Fair changes then

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 05:59:45 No.32119517 Report

Quoted By: >>32119527

>>32119506
What? GF gave TONS of stat buffs this gen, what are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 06:02:43 No.32119527 Report

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>>32119517
I mean stuff like redistributing the stats. Gamefreak never reduced certain stats, only increased them a bit. They would never do something like that for a starter either

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 06:03:17 No.32119532 Report

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Nidoking gets 10 speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 06:34:16 No.32119622 Report

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Give Araquanid recover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 07:02:07 No.32119712 Report

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Give Regis regenerator and regigigas rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 07:47:37 No.32119853 Report

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Give noctowl +20 def and a functional copy of compoundeyes for an ability. Also it learns hurricane now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 07:56:56 No.32119874 Report

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>>32119276
In Doubles (the only metagame Game Freak care about), Defiant is great.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 11:28:30 No.32120481 Report

Quoted By: >>32120491

>>32119464
I feel like GF isnt giving out Drain Punch anymore. It's like they want to keep it semi-exclusive to Conkeldurr, which I don't mind, but I really want Machamp to be viable again through some other way. Dude hasn't received any significant buff since Gen 4 and his only niche (NG+DP) even got nerfed this gen due to confusion. Meanwhile the other three original trade evos have gotten stat boosts and/or megas/Alolan forme. It's legitimately not fair

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 11:31:30 No.32120491 Report

Quoted By: >>32120508

>>32120481
No Guard Assault Vest, son
Dynamic Punch, Ice Punch, Bullet Punch and Poison Jab. 10/10 Machamp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 11:41:51 No.32120508 Report

Quoted By: >>32120559

>>32120491
>no Stone Edge

And you're missing the point. This set seems decent but it does not take away the fact that Machamp is outclassed by too many fighting types. Even Conkeldurr is now only UU

Machamp needs a new niche on top of NG+DP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 11:54:44 No.32120559 Report

Quoted By: >>32120643

>>32120508
This set is the one I use in VGC, and it actually works really well. Changing Bullet Punch for Stone Edge might work, but I highly prefer the Steel coberture it grants me. And yeah, it might be not the best, but its not the worst either. Stills better than Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Hitmontop, and I'd say its better than Mienshao too. Anyway, I use Machamp more than Conkeldurr just because No Guard. Fighting type is really fucked up this gen. Pray for Gen 8 buffs, its the only thing we can do.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2017 12:12:12 No.32120643 Report

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>>32120559
Good luck in the VGC bruh. I hope the champ gets another Dark Horse moment a-la 2013/2015 seniors divison

>Fighting type is really fucked up this gen. Pray for Gen 8 buffs, its the only thing we can do.
Unfortunately so

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