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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 02:57:31 No.32159159 View View Reply Original Report

Cutscenes are a hell of a drug.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 02:58:46 No.32159170 Report

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>glitchless

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:00:10 No.32159182 Report

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>>32159159
I love gen 1 speedruns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:01:04 No.32159189 Report

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>>32159170
Way to totally miss the point idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:02:15 No.32159196 Report

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>>32159170
>walks through your wall
>wins the game under 25 minutes
>pssh. Nothing personnel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:02:26 No.32159198 Report

Quoted By: >>32159237 >>32161554

>>32159159
>8 badges

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:05:29 No.32159217 Report

Quoted By: >>32159247

The cut scenes in Moon where really annoying. I just wanted to explore and level but no, non stop fucking cut scenes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:05:58 No.32159220 Report

Quoted By: >>32166661

>>32159159
>a hell of a drug
It would be if people liked them and wanted more of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:06:09 No.32159223 Report

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>>32159189
Way to totally miss the point idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:07:28 No.32159237 Report

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>>32159198
As in finishing the league first time and not when you beat Red with 16 badges.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:08:26 No.32159247 Report

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>>32159217

If you can just mash A through it, it's not a cutscene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:09:22 No.32159255 Report

Quoted By: >>32159308 >>32159325 >>32161954

>>32159159
>ORAS is 1 hour longer than RS
The fuck, where did we go wrong? Are cutscenes + loading times that long?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:10:25 No.32159266 Report

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>>32159182
How about I drill your ass

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:12:18 No.32159278 Report

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>>32159266
>teleports behind you
>uses perfect accuracy horn drill
pssssh nothing personnel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:16:48 No.32159308 Report

Quoted By: >>32166629

>>32159255
I think the really weird one is Emerald being half an hour longer than Ruby/Sapphire, sure there's a few extra areas like Magma Hideout and the Sky Pillar being mandatory before the league, and the cutscene in Sootopolis, but does that really add half an hour to the run?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:18:57 No.32159323 Report

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>rng
>so many options for team building
>no ev/iv maxing for team building
>no glitches
Well shit, no wonder they take forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:19:15 No.32159325 Report

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>>32159255
Delta Episode maybe? Or does it end with Steven?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:21:18 No.32159335 Report

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>>32159278
>It's a cornhologram

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:21:40 No.32159340 Report

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>>32159325
No it ends with Steven, it's probably because of the cutscenes, and the sixth gen games being slower than the gen 3 games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:24:46 No.32159362 Report

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>>32159325
Ends with the rival so the actual record is 10 min shorter if you dont count end credits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:28:06 No.32159391 Report

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>>32159170

>wanting some shitty glitch run where they play around in menus for 20 seconds and warp to the credits

Not that any speedrun of a JRPG is ever good, but the routes themselves can be interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:34:52 No.32159440 Report

Quoted By: >>32159456 >>32159499 >>32160325

How much time that speedrun would be without counting cutscenes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:36:29 No.32159453 Report

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>>32159391
I liked that blind OoT speedrun where the guy discovered a new glitch room accidentally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:36:58 No.32159456 Report

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>>32159440

Probably still longer than any other game. It's kind of unfair when thousands of runners have been running red for a decade, finding routes/strategies/etc. then comparing that to a new release

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:39:51 No.32159488 Report

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>>32159159
>DPPt this cancerous with "story" bullshit

No wonder they're such shit games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:40:54 No.32159499 Report

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>>32159440
Youtube shows that there's only 15 minutes of pre-rendered cutscenes, but I don't know if you're talking about scripted text too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:41:38 No.32159503 Report

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>>32159159
Goddamn it, I wanted SM to be so good.
I mean, they're still fine, but excessive storytrash drags it down so hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:44:51 No.32159537 Report

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>>32159499

Obviously they are talkin about scripted text. 15 minutes of pre rendered scenes aren't inflating the run by hours. 15 minutes of pre rendered scenes aren't what that masses are complaining about when they complain about their hand being held for the entire first island.

You fucking know what people are referring to when they complain about cutscenese

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:45:35 No.32159548 Report

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>>32159499
If it fades to black to display it, it's a cutscene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:45:50 No.32159552 Report

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>>32159170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyhEKG_g53o

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 03:59:16 No.32159694 Report

Quoted By: >>32161976

>>32159537
So, this implies that S/M has a ton of useless talk that go beyond the pre-rendered cutscenes.

The problem is that every fucking game has shit like this. Could Lillie dirty talk be that much to the point to inflate the game like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 05:36:25 No.32160325 Report

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>>32159440
Just the fade to black transitions would cut like 5min.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 07:55:57 No.32160879 Report

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>>32159159
Rules:
Premiere: You enjoy the game peacefully.
During: You go all round and catch pokémon with good statistics.
Climax: You bring your best 6 pokémon.
Finished: You know the content of the whole game.

Quick Mode:
You analyze the same 6 Pokémon stronger and with traps.
Take shortcuts and avoid challenges.
Anyone can finish the game quickly if you have played it before. LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 07:59:20 No.32160893 Report

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>>32159159
In SM, Lillie takes a lot of time doing nothing in almost every scene in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 08:03:36 No.32160899 Report

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>>32159159
okay here's the tough question
>why does it matter, and who gives a fuck

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 08:06:50 No.32160908 Report

Quoted By: >>32161062

>>32159159
When I tried to get a trainer card with nice digits in S/M it would take between 12-15 minutes after each reset to get my first Pokemon. Gave that up pretty quickly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 09:15:36 No.32161062 Report

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>>32160908
This happened with me when I tried to get a starter with a godd ability

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 09:16:52 No.32161067 Report

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>>32161062
good**

Damn cell phone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 09:24:41 No.32161088 Report

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>>32159247
cutscenes =/= cinematics

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 10:48:22 No.32161303 Report

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>>32159159
>tfw want to try a new game on Moon but it's too discouraging because of the cutscenes so the game is still sealed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 10:50:09 No.32161309 Report

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>>32161062
nature**

Damn retardation.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 10:51:48 No.32161315 Report

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>>32159159

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:01:36 No.32161341 Report

Quoted By: >>32161344 >>32161385 >>32161426 >>32162079 >>32166298

I love cutscenes...who else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:02:41 No.32161344 Report

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>>32161341
That Clefable had more facial expressions than the player's character.
It had two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:19:55 No.32161385 Report

Quoted By: >>32161421

>>32161341

I didn't love them but I definitely don't have the break random objects with a baseball bat level of rage over them like most of /vp/. Recently replayed Sun and the cutscenes at most were a minor inconvenience, especially in the beginning because it's telling how the play a game I've been playing for almost 20 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:28:52 No.32161421 Report

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>>32161385
Mainly it's for replayability

Like, even on your first playthrough, after an hour or two, you start thinking "okay when can I actually play the game" on the less interesting cutscenes. If you try a second playthrough, where you've already seen everything interesting, it's just a long long time sitting through cutscene hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:30:02 No.32161426 Report

Quoted By: >>32161564

>>32161341
I really liked the cutscenes. Since BW I wanted Pokémon to become a more cinematic experiece.

Yes, it makes the game feel slower and kinda boring if you want to replay it, but the first time that I played Moon it was one of my best experiences with the franchise.

I would like to see some long cutscenes like the ones from Metal Gear in future games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 12:15:50 No.32161554 Report

Quoted By: >>32161949 >>32162029 >>32162041 >>32162088

>>32159198
Some idiots consider kanto post game. While somehow never addressing the fact that'd make gen 2 the undisputable worst in the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 12:20:46 No.32161564 Report

Quoted By: >>32161621

>>32161426
what would happen if we put pokemon, metal gear and monster hunter into one game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 12:41:02 No.32161621 Report

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>>32161564
lawsuits
lawsuits everywhere

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 12:50:13 No.32161662 Report

Quoted By: >>32161988 >>32162563

>>32159159
>nidoking

glitchless but using exploits is basically the same thing. it's basedon a glitch btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 13:11:01 No.32161745 Report

Quoted By: >>32166498

I mean they're like what? 15 minutes or something? Doesn't change much

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 13:54:37 No.32161949 Report

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>>32161554
By some idiots you mean GF and 90% of the fanbase lol

And no, Johto main game in Gen 2 is still not the worst

>>32159159
Huh. These numbers are interesting. I was about to chalk up the DP numbers to the size of the region but it's probably the slowness of the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 13:55:35 No.32161954 Report

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>>32159255
Stuff just moves faster in the GBA games, it adds up over time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 13:59:34 No.32161976 Report

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>>32159694
The problem being all scripted talk in SM stops the game and gives a fade to black before and after, and still slows down and breaks the pace.

>>32161315
100/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 13:59:51 No.32161977 Report

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>>32159159

>Sinnohfetuses claim DPPt aren't slow as molasses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:00:06 No.32161978 Report

Quoted By: >>32168804

>>32159159
what makes emerald half an hour longer than ruby/sapphire? curious

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:03:15 No.32161988 Report

Quoted By: >>32162563

>>32161662
No it's not. There's no indication that Gen1 X-Accuracy ISN'T supposed to make all your attacks hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:13:05 No.32162029 Report

Quoted By: >>32162054

>>32161554
>While somehow never addressing the fact that'd make gen 2 the undisputable worst in the franchise
>implying it isnt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:15:07 No.32162041 Report

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>>32161554
Uhhhhhh......

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:19:28 No.32162054 Report

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>>32162029
>implying it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:23:10 No.32162073 Report

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I love how Genwarfags try to start genwars in threads now since it's bannable if you make your own thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:24:41 No.32162079 Report

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>>32161341
I love good cutscenes in other games. Like Thief or Max Payne.
But not the shit in pokemon

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:26:30 No.32162088 Report

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>>32161554
>the game is bad if the post game is good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:33:03 No.32162107 Report

Quoted By: >>32162205

>>32159159
Why lump the base versions up together? Wouldn't the differences in catchable Pokemon (and sometimes trainers) be enough for them to be considered separate games for speedruns?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:49:55 No.32162205 Report

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>>32162107

No, why would they? It's not like they differ in levels or difficulty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:51:12 No.32162219 Report

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>>32159266
only if you cum inside it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:54:53 No.32162240 Report

Quoted By: >>32163646 >>32166531

>>32159159
>The ending to Sun & Moon is a fucking 45 minute cutscene
It ruined the entire game for me. I closed it and never opened it again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 15:04:56 No.32162294 Report

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>>32159159
To be fair, it's not like SM has been out all that long, so it's not optimized since Pokemon is luck based garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 15:46:09 No.32162514 Report

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>>32159159
Are cutscenes the SM pleb filter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 15:53:48 No.32162563 Report

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>>32161662
>>32161988
Gen 2 X Accuracy does the same thing as Gen 1's, so the behavior is completely intentional. Gen 2 also changed how the OHKO moves work to balance it out some.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:45:19 No.32163646 Report

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>>32162240
Now you're overreacting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 19:10:15 No.32163821 Report

Quoted By: >>32166440

>D/P/Pt time is the longer among the 2d main games

SLOW
L
O
W

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 19:26:13 No.32163942 Report

Quoted By: >>32163957

>>32159159
The early cutscenes in Sun and Moon are shit but once you go to Aether Foundation with Gladion their pretty great because you should genuinely like and care about the characters at that point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 19:28:06 No.32163957 Report

Quoted By: >>32163992

>>32163942
Gamefreak must have failed then, because most people dislike the characters at that point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 19:32:00 No.32163992 Report

Quoted By: >>32167031

>>32163957
>implying
Lillie merch sells out faster than any other characters in japan now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 23:21:55 No.32165738 Report

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>>32159159
>Dice roll:the speedrun
Pokemon games aren't true speedgames

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 00:11:32 No.32166298 Report

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>>32161341
Yeah, nah. If I wanted that shit I'd play a different game or watch a movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 00:25:46 No.32166440 Report

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>>32163821
>Post Gen 3
>2D

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 00:31:33 No.32166498 Report

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>>32161745
6 hours actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_MT9q54MGY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 00:34:34 No.32166531 Report

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>>32162240
>i closed the game when it ended
well yeah probably

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 00:42:52 No.32166629 Report

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>>32159308
The magic of 60fps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 00:45:45 No.32166661 Report

Quoted By: >>32166802

>>32159220
good thing /vp/ isn't people

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 00:56:27 No.32166802 Report

Quoted By: >>32167136

>>32166661
>implying /vp/ is the only place this opinion is shared

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 01:14:10 No.32167031 Report

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>>32163992
This. It's unfortunate but generic waifubait hooks the most people, especially in nipland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 01:21:43 No.32167136 Report

Quoted By: >>32167188

>>32166802
you faggots are the only people I see bitching about too much plot, so
>implying it isn't

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Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 01:24:28 No.32167188 Report

Quoted By: >>32167228

>>32167136
Oh so confirmation bias.
Got it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 01:27:05 No.32167228 Report

Quoted By: >>32167277

>>32167188
>ad populum
how does it feel being a social recluse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 01:30:06 No.32167277 Report

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>>32167228
Doesn't really mean much from someone who doesn't venture outside of 4chan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 04:01:59 No.32168737 Report

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The worst cutscene in the game is the one they tease a battle between Pheromosa and Tapu Koko, because it leads to fucking nothing and there's no point to it.

Ok, they made it to show that some UBs are in Alola, but they shouldn't have showed Tapu Koko that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 04:12:14 No.32168804 Report

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>>32161978
>have to fight twice as many teams as you did in Ruby/Sapphire
>"why is the game longer?"

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