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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:36:01 No.32161454 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32161460 >>32161470 >>32161507 >>32162784 >>32164303

Why is Xerneas stronger than Yveltal and even Zygarde? It hits them both super effectively, and Core Enforcer can't even affect it, and therefore not even erease Fairy Aura.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:38:30 No.32161460 Report

Quoted By: >>32161594 >>32162049

>>32161454
Because life triumphs over death
haha jk, it's because gen 6 needed to shill fairies super hard so they made the legendary incredibly good.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:38:50 No.32161461 Report

Quoted By: >>32161935 >>32162015 >>32162071

Good always wins.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:41:06 No.32161469 Report

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deer has the power of lewd

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:42:23 No.32161470 Report

Quoted By: >>32161493

>>32161454
It's also funny how each of Zygardes types show no effect on Xerneas and Yveltal, altough it is supposed to keep then in balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:49:50 No.32161493 Report

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>>32161470
>Yveltal
Thousand Arrows says otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:51:51 No.32161498 Report

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Because the god of the forest is well-nigh unstoppable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:53:51 No.32161507 Report

Quoted By: >>32161524

>>32161454
>Poochyena used Roar
>Xerneas's Power Herb was wasted!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 11:59:38 No.32161524 Report

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>>32161507
It doesn't even need Geomancy to faint them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 12:34:02 No.32161594 Report

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>>32161460
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 13:51:02 No.32161935 Report

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>>32161461
>Good
then why do they screw up with fighting pokemon?
fairies are nasty little tricksters who fuck shit up just on principle alone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:09:59 No.32162015 Report

Quoted By: >>32162019 >>32163338

>>32161461
lore =/= gameplay
Lore-wise Zygarde doesn't even need its complete form to balance the ecosystem and stay above most of legendaries of the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:11:00 No.32162019 Report

Quoted By: >>32162589

>>32162015
lore also describes magcargo as hotter than the sun, certain pokemon knocking down mountains but none of those mean jackshit when actual fighting happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:17:17 No.32162049 Report

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>>32161460
This. Xerneas was made to sell the Fairy type to everyone:
>girly concept (rainbow deer) to portray the general themes behind Fairy
>majestic rather than cutesy for a wider appeal
>masculine animal to help sell the idea to boys
>OP for the players that value competitive worth

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 14:22:41 No.32162071 Report

Quoted By: >>32162483

>>32161461
If that were true, Yveltal would be the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 15:39:58 No.32162483 Report

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>>32162071
yveltal is destruction, which is always portrayed as evil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 15:58:23 No.32162589 Report

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>>32162019
Battle rules =/= Outside World

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 16:23:12 No.32162784 Report

Quoted By: >>32162901 >>32162985

>>32161454
Every gen with 2 legends has a legend that beats the other.

Ho-Oh>Lugia
Kyogre>Groudon
Dialga?>Palkia? (I don't know how it was in g4, I like palkia more but I'm inclined to say Dialga wins)
Ho-Oh still > Lugia
Zekrom>Reshiram
White Kyurem>>>>>>>>>>>>>Black Kyurem
Xerneas>Yveltal (ironically the smallest powergap)
Primal Groudon>Primal Kyogre (although a slower P-Kyogre still murders P-Groudon, it's equally fucked the other way around)
Lunala>Solgaleo

The third legends, with the exception of Rayquaza, can't do much to the others until they get their "better" forms. Giratina-A is fine, but nothing special back there. Kyurem is shit. Zygarde 50% was shit.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 16:47:53 No.32162901 Report

Quoted By: >>32162908 >>32163092 >>32163513

>>32162784
Reminder

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 16:49:13 No.32162908 Report

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>>32162901
Yeah, but until then Necrozma is only good with mat block evopass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 17:05:17 No.32162985 Report

Quoted By: >>32163124 >>32163337 >>32163351

>>32162784
Dialga's more popular but I think Palkia is stronger. It's faster, has the better signature move, and as aura sphere (Well they all do but Dialga is steel)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 17:23:34 No.32163092 Report

Quoted By: >>32165386

>>32162901
Knowing GF it will fuse with the UBs but every form stays pure Psychic because xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 17:30:52 No.32163124 Report

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>>32162985
Dialga is better in Ubers and wins vs Palkia in a 1v1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:04:20 No.32163337 Report

Quoted By: >>32163344

>>32162985
Palkia I find more usable and better looking, but Dialga didn't get smashed by fairies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:04:30 No.32163338 Report

Quoted By: >>32165421

>>32162015
I thought Rayquaza was supposed to balance the ecosystem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:05:58 No.32163344 Report

Quoted By: >>32163395 >>32163500

>>32163337
Palkia was more usable in gen 4/5, I think. But then the Xerneas nation attacked, plus primal groudon really did seal both, but especially palkia, away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:06:49 No.32163351 Report

Quoted By: >>32163447

>>32162985
Dialga is better because it resists both of Palkia's STABs while Palkia takes super effective from Dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:12:40 No.32163395 Report

Quoted By: >>32163408

>>32163344
Yeah, gen 4's non-event, not-sub legends really got fucked over. I think Giratina-O is still ok though, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:14:05 No.32163408 Report

Quoted By: >>32163433

>>32163395
Even the event legends. Out of all the gen 4 legendaries, only Heatran, Giratina-O and Arceus made it out alright. The rest have fallen from grace in their tiers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:17:35 No.32163433 Report

Quoted By: >>32163465

>>32163408
Ouch, even Manaphy and Darkrai?
Well I guess Darkrai had it coming with the void nerf and Manaphy has better tail glow competition in Xurkitree now that I think about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:19:29 No.32163447 Report

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>>32163351
Maybe I'm stupid, but steel/dragon takes neutral damage from dragon, right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:21:03 No.32163465 Report

Quoted By: >>32163494

>>32163433
Darkrai is basically a shittier weavile at this point with no Dark Void. Manaphy is bad without perma-rain backing it up.

desu darkrai should just get out of ubers already, what is it even doing there? Tapu Koko and Pheromosa are a million times more broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:25:55 No.32163494 Report

Quoted By: >>32163511

>>32163465
Eh, poor guy. I guess his stats back him up? Idk.
Seems like the special attacking version of the physical Weavile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:26:30 No.32163500 Report

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>>32163344
Yep, palkia was a motherfucker in gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:28:08 No.32163511 Report

Quoted By: >>32163610

>>32163494
AKA inferior, without Knock Off it's not as good. The only merit it really has in this meta is a fast, strong sludge bomb, honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:28:28 No.32163513 Report

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>>32162901
dude fibonacci lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 18:39:59 No.32163610 Report

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>>32163511
And not having Ice type attached to it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 20:26:01 No.32164303 Report

Quoted By: >>32164331

>>32161454
Xerneas has a better ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 20:29:10 No.32164331 Report

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>>32164303
Xerneas is one of those Pokemon that would probably taste delicious when properly cooked but Yveltal would taste like ash and bone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 22:52:11 No.32165386 Report

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>>32163092
>implying Necrozma-Guzzlord isn't the strongest form and haven't Dragon type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 22:54:52 No.32165421 Report

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>>32163338
Rayquaza is Groudon and Kyogre's babysitter. They fight? Rayquaza stops them.
Zygarde is supposed to be pretty much the last line of defense of the Earth when everything will be fucked, I don't even think there's a legendary above Z excepting Sinnoh's legends (literal dimensional gods)

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