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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 19:05:31 No.32163791 View View Reply Original Report

All final evolutions of the starters now have a BST of 560.

How would you distribute these changes to make them good but not outright broken? or in Blaziken and Greninja's case, not outright broken-er

And yes, those BST changes do apply to the Megas and Ash-Greninja.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 19:14:04 No.32163845 Report

Quoted By: >>32163959 >>32163976

>>32163791
Primarina

80 ----> 100
74 ----> 74
74 ----> 84
126 ---> 126
116 ----> 126
60 -----> 50

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 19:28:23 No.32163959 Report

Quoted By: >>32163984 >>32164045

>>32163845
Interesting.

But I forgot to mention you also can't take away points from one base stat to add to another.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 19:30:00 No.32163976 Report

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>>32163845
My choice for primarina would be 90 speed, and leave everything else as it is. There's no problem with a physically fragile special attacker if it can at least somewhat use a scarf. It also doesn't make any sense to me that a performer that can dance and sing (arguably being able to do fast movements, specially in water) has a pitiful 60 base speed.

For pic related I would very much like to boost its defense and attack.

95
109-->119
105-->125
75-->80
85
56

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 19:31:14 No.32163984 Report

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>>32163959
Not that anon but I would just add the extra 30 bst into Primarina's defense stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 19:35:53 No.32164020 Report

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Venusaur: +20 Sp. Atk, +10 Def, +5 HP
Charizard: +10 Sp. Atk, +10 Atk, +6 HP
Blastoise: +20 Sp. Atk, +10 Def

Meganium: +20 HP, +5 Def, +5 Sp. Def, +5 Sp. Atk
Typhlosion: +10 Spe, +16 Atk
Feraligatr: +20 Atk, +10 Spe

Sceptile: +20 Atk, +10 Sp. Atk
Blaziken: +30 HP
Swampert: +10 HP, +10 Def, +5 Atk

Torterra: +20 HP, +15 Sp. Def
Infernape: +10 Atk, +10 Sp. Atk, +6 Spe
Empoleon: +20 HP, +10 Sp. Atk

Serperior: +10 Sp. Atk, +22 HP
Emboar: +15 Def, +15 Sp. Def, +2 HP
Samurott: +22 Atk, +10 HP

Chesnaught: +20 Sp. Def, +10 HP
Delphox: +10 Spe, +20 Sp. Atk
Greninja: +10 Def, +10 Sp. Def, +5 Atk, +5 HP

Decidueye: +30 Spe
Incineroar: +20 HP, +10 Atk
Primarina: +20 Def, +10 HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 19:38:24 No.32164045 Report

Quoted By: >>32165264

>>32163959
>But I forgot to mention you also can't take away points from one base stat to add to another.
You do realise that's the only way to fix some of them, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 22:39:35 No.32165264 Report

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>>32164045
That sounds like quitter talk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 23:40:22 No.32165949 Report

Quoted By: >>32166091

>Venusuar
Mega Venusaur is already really good, so I want to be careful with this one.
+15 Atk, +10 Spe, +10 SpA
Slightly faster, hits slightly harder on both ends, more relvevant buff to the Chlorophyll-Growth set than the mega.

>Charizard
Charizard is already insanely powerful with 2 megas. Best keep its buffs spread thin where they won't mean much,
+11 HP, +5 Def, +5 SpA, +5 SpD

>Blastoise
Blastoise is kinda bad, even with its mega. Buff its defenses. +15 Def, +15 SpD

>Meganium
Meganium is shit and needs all the help it can get. It has potential, though, since it gets Earthquake, so it might make a decent physical tank.
+30 Atk, +5HP

>Typhlosion
Typhlosion is shit too, but at least it has a decent physical movepool to take advantage of.
+25 Atk, +1 Spe

>Feraligatr
Really good since it gets Dragon Dance, but outclassed by most other Dragon Dancers.
+10 HP, +10 Def, +10 Spe
Slightly more bulk for getting set up and tanking priority moves, now fast enough to outpace gyarados.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Mar 2017 23:52:37 No.32166091 Report

Quoted By: >>32166237

>>32165949
More

>Sceptile
Has a decent mega. Nothing too amazing. Could use a minor buff.
+10 HP, +10 Atk, +10 Def

>Blaziken
Broken as all hell. All thirty points go to Special Defense in vain hopes of making the buff not matter.
+30SpD

>Swampert
Has a great mega and is pretty decent on its own, strongest starter to use in game by far. I kinda wish it was a little faster and had slightly better Scalds.
+15 SpA, +10 Spe

>Torterra
Godly in-game, sucks in competitive.
+20 HP, +15 Spe
More bulk and is slightly better a Rock 'Polish now.

>Infernape
Infernape is and has been really good. I'll try to make it slightly better without breaking it.
+6 HP, +10 Atk +10 SpA

>Empoleon
It's hard to take advantage of its Defiant ability with that stat spread, so...
+30 Atk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 00:05:17 No.32166237 Report

Quoted By: >>32167095

>>32166091
>Serperior
Before it got Contrary, it was all about the Coil and Leaf Blade. I rather liked that set.
+12 HP, +20 Atk

>Emboar
High HP with no bulk is kinda bad. I'll try and fix that a little.
+16 Def, +16 SpD

>Samurott
Highest stat is SpA, yet it looks and plays like a physical attacker. Let's fix that a little bit.
+12 Atk, +20 Def

>Chesnaught
Chesnaught is already pretty goo. I guess we could buff its attack and patch SpD a little?
+15 Atk, +15 SpD

>Delphox
Delphox is kinda shitty. Lets make it better at what it's already good at.
+16 SpA, +10 SpD

>Greninja
Busted as all hell. Let's try to make its buffs not matter and spread them thin.
+7 HP, +7Atk, +7Def, +9SpD

>Decidueye
Needs more bulk. +20 HP, +10 Def

>Incineroar
Losing speed when evolving from Torracat was a huge mistake. +30 Spe

>Primarina
Has an amazing defensive typing. Lets boost those defenses.
+10 HP, +10 Def, +10 SpD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 00:09:01 No.32166281 Report

Quoted By: >>32166303

We need a limit for adding points otherwise we'll just be making the average op fakemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 00:12:22 No.32166303 Report

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>>32166281
They all go to 560 BST. Didn't you read the OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 01:18:49 No.32167095 Report

Quoted By: >>32167154

>>32166237
>Decidueye,
>+Hp +defense

>Incineroar
>+Speed.

Seriously you barafags get over it already, incineroar is the bulky one.

Decidueye is the fast one.

Just for this barafag alone,
>BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 01:22:44 No.32167154 Report

Quoted By: >>32168021

>>32167095
I'm not a Baracunt, I liked Torracat better than Incineroar and I hate it when pokemon lose pseed, or any stat really, upon evolution.

And my favorite set for Decidueye is Roost/Toxic/Spirit Shackle/Leaf blade, which needs more bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Mar 2017 02:33:55 No.32168021 Report

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>>32167154
It's supposed to be the fastest out the three it is, but 70 speed, it was cucked so hard by GF. It's not even funny. 100 special. Defense. But yet low Hp stat.
Did you ever notice that there is no fast physical attacking grass pokemon. I thought that Decidueye would finally fill that role but GF ducked up His speed for no reason.

He's got 100 special attack
But he can't even learn any special attacking moves by level up. WTF.

And as for incineroar, he's bulky, and he hits hard. Trust me, he really doesn't need speed, it's like giving swampert more speed, but unlike swampert incineroar got access to swords dance. A bulky mon with swords dance and good speed, that's dangerously good. and to be honest his design alone gave me an impression that he was going to be slow.

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