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"Fire Type Specialist"

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:03:18 No.32236918 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32236945 >>32236977 >>32236983 >>32237311 >>32238235 >>32238245 >>32238883 >>32243110 >>32243134

>60% of team is non-fire types
What kind of drugs was he on?
Couldn't he have just swapped his rapidash for another non-fire type and been a non-specialist E4 member?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:06:33 No.32236932 Report

Quoted By: >>32236942 >>32236956 >>32236976 >>32237027

They could have at least given him a Magmortar. And Rotom-H.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:08:23 No.32236942 Report

Quoted By: >>32236955 >>32236956

>>32236932

in D/P Magmortar was post game.

why i don't know luckily Platinum fixed it and gave him some new mons.

He should have gotten Heat Rotom though, would have been a good counter mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:08:53 No.32236945 Report

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>>32236918
its because sinnoh has literally no other fire types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:09:38 No.32236952 Report

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fire moves Specialist

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:09:53 No.32236955 Report

Quoted By: >>32237274

>>32236942
Post game for the player. No reason why Flint couldn't have one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:10:11 No.32236956 Report

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>>32236932
heat rotom wasn't in DP

>>32236942
heat rotom wasn't fire type until BW

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:10:33 No.32236957 Report

Quoted By: >>32236987

Maybe in the remakes he will have fire rotom and perhaps a fire Sinnohan Steelix?

OR he could become a non-specialist and Sinnohan Rapidash not be fire type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:13:15 No.32236976 Report

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>>32236932
I agree with Magmortar, or heck even magmar would have worked. Rotom's appliances were in platinum, and even so, it didn't have the fire type back then, it really would only have over heat and or will-o-wisp. Sure, it would have be coverage, but if it takes the pokemon to know sunny day, or a fire move, pretty sure people would be pissed off at rotom too. Also it was a mystery gift exclusive form, also. You don't have a unobtainable pokemon in the elite 4 until a specific date, or after the specific date.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:13:23 No.32236977 Report

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>>32236918
At least Platinum fixed his team.
Aaron's ace still isn't a bug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:14:27 No.32236983 Report

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>>32236918
>sunny day fire fang steelix
>not even a stab move
every time, it's like a verlis set

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Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:15:02 No.32236987 Report

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>>32236957
>sinnoh steelix
>fire/ground

>HP: 75
>ATK:200
>DEF:65
>SPAtk:30
>SPDef:55
>SPE:85

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:16:43 No.32236995 Report

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>>32236987
That would make an insane wallbreaker.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:20:03 No.32237018 Report

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>>32236987

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:21:51 No.32237027 Report

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>>32236932
Rotom-h wasn't in DP, newfag. And anyway in gen 4 it wasn't even a fire type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:27:21 No.32237058 Report

Quoted By: >>32237067 >>32237106

Why people complain about DP fire distribution and the fact they put in a fire type specialist where are almost no fire type and nobody complain about rse where they pulled the same shit with an ice specialist.
Would have it been better if Flint used 2 monferno and a second Rapidash instead of hos 3 no-fire types?
Honestely I prefer what we got at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:29:01 No.32237067 Report

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>>32237058
His 3 non-fire types*

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:34:30 No.32237106 Report

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>>32237058
Hoenn is full of Water Types that learn Ice moves.
Fire has always been much harder to come by, DP just made it more noticable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:37:30 No.32237126 Report

Quoted By: >>32237193 >>32237280 >>32238269

Flint is what more teams should be. He has a clear fire theme going, but can't just be swept by spamming surf

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:50:17 No.32237193 Report

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>>32237126
He can just spam surf though.
He should had weather ball roserade or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 16:58:48 No.32237240 Report

Quoted By: >>32237282

>>32236987
>wishiwashi used water gun

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 17:04:26 No.32237274 Report

Quoted By: >>32238248

>>32236955
magmar and magmortar weren't in the Diamond Pearl Sinnohdex, only the Platinum sinnohdex and the DP nationaldex

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 17:06:02 No.32237280 Report

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>>32237126
Agreed. My favorites fights in ALL games remains the Lance fight in FRLG because of its variety

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 17:06:10 No.32237282 Report

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>>32237240
wishiwashi wouldn't be able to outspeed it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 17:11:49 No.32237311 Report

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>>32236918
I like when a you have a type specialist that changes it up. Almost like they know their type of choice well enough to at least attempt to compensate for their weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 17:22:28 No.32237394 Report

Quoted By: >>32237426 >>32237431 >>32238245

>>32237311
>fight volker in DP
>bring a ground type
>fucking Octillary out of nowhere

>fight Volkner in Platinum
>use Torterra
>Luxray used Ice Fang

>fight flint in Platinum
>send out Buizel
>Magmortar used Thunder Punch!
>send out Rampardos instead
>Magmortar used Solarbeam!

>fight elesa
>bring ground type
>sends out flying/electric type
>have to get a Crustle with Smack Down located conveniently nearby

>fight Bruno
>bring flying types
>he's got an Onix

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 17:26:55 No.32237426 Report

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>>32237394
>fighting crasher wake
>fightiing gyarados
>luxio use thunderbolt!
>Crasher wake sends out quagsire

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 17:27:09 No.32237431 Report

Quoted By: >>32237440

>>32237394
>>he's got an Onix
oh no. not onix

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 17:29:03 No.32237440 Report

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>>32237431
i was surprised the first time (i had not trained a psychic type)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 17:30:34 No.32237449 Report

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>>32237440
were you planning on sweeping with dodrio or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 17:33:18 No.32237468 Report

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>>32237449
Pidgeot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 17:38:12 No.32237502 Report

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>>32237311
>Almost like they know their type of choice well enough to at least attempt to compensate for their weaknesses
DP Flint isn't compensating for any weakness: its team has no Water resist and only one Ground resist( an immunity to be accurate). Steelix, Drifblim and Lopunny are shitmons and their movesets aren't good even by ingame standards

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 19:33:47 No.32238235 Report

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>>32236918
i mean, he follows the volkner background of being a normal "ace trainer" like before their paths were divided and he joined the e4 while volkner took control of sunyshore

i'm more triggered by the lack of any stab on steelix actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 19:35:32 No.32238245 Report

Quoted By: >>32238267 >>32239501

>>32236918
>What kind of drugs was he on?
The same ones they were on when making Agatha, Karen, Glacia, and Lance. For some reason they fucking loved putting E4 members in a game and giving them a type that had basically no pokemon of that type in the region

>>32237394
>he's got an onix
oh no not the thing that gets instagibbed if someone turns on a sink in the same room

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 19:35:51 No.32238248 Report

Quoted By: >>32238254

>>32237274
Ok.

So they could have put Magmar/Magmortar in the DP Sinnoh Dex and then Flint could have had one.

You are autistic as fuck, Anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 19:36:23 No.32238254 Report

Quoted By: >>32238621

>>32238248
that's why platinum exists moron

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 19:37:24 No.32238267 Report

Quoted By: >>32238296

>>32238245
>hurr durr i want the jimmy liders and le lit 4 to have themed teams and not boring monotypes
>durr hurr i want the trials and themed teams to be monotype trainer battles
t. /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 19:37:38 No.32238269 Report

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>>32237126
Absolutely. I have no problems with this, I do think it could've been done just a little better. It's kinda a shame how they'll probably put all fire types on his team if they do a gen 4 remake

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 19:40:46 No.32238296 Report

Quoted By: >>32238337

>>32238267
>glacia's terrible as shit team

If you dont count previous forms of an evo line as new pokemon, she has only 2 kinds of pokemon, Walrein and Glalie. That's pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 19:43:30 No.32238318 Report

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>>32237282
Wishiwashi can't be found in Sinnoh in the first place
>''I was talking about online''
>Implying Wishiwashi isn't a shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 19:46:13 No.32238337 Report

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>>32238296
i can agree on this
at least in gen 3

but the ice were still lacking back then
her team would look very similar to lorelei from frlg and pryce if she used dewgong, lapras too and sneasel would have been full special back then

wish glacia's pokemon line used different movesets at least

the rng parade of hoenn league kinda helped them between attract, curse, confusion and evasion as well as ohko moves

also disliked the dig flygon and lack of kingdra in a sea captain team when even lance used it, only fixed in emerald but still, kingdra wasn't used by any trainer in rs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 20:21:05 No.32238621 Report

Quoted By: >>32238843

>>32238254
So they shouldn't have just included this new Pokemon they introduced and given the specialist of that type that Pokemon...... because they'd eventually make Platinum? Lol you're a fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 20:41:26 No.32238843 Report

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>>32238621
Stay mad anon. What they meant was that someone already thought of your idea after D/P's release, and implemented it into Platinum.

If you want to know why they didn't do it from the start you have to bring it up with GF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 20:45:22 No.32238883 Report

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>>32236918
>fire types was so non-existent in Sinnoh that GF was forced to give Flint the fire starter just so there wouldn't be one sole fire type on his team

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 20:59:06 No.32238989 Report

Quoted By: >>32239059

>>32236987
Switch Speed and SpDef and maybe it'd be balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 21:06:09 No.32239059 Report

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>>32238989
85 is a slow speed for the current OU meta. And making it bulkier (even marginally) is a bad idea.

It would basically be Hoopa U with better stab, but more weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 21:13:28 No.32239128 Report

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>>32237311
This would be great, but since they changed the pokemonof Volkner and Flint in Pt, it's quite obvious they didn't realize how many fite/electric pokemon were in the oriiginal sinnohdex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 21:16:32 No.32239168 Report

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>>32236987
>Any regional variation
>Having a larger stat change than +/-20

Oh boy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 21:30:01 No.32239270 Report

Quoted By: >>32239782

>>32237311
A lvl 58 empoleon with average spa vs his entire team (adjusted for levels and stuff)
>128 SpA Empoleon Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Rapidash: 180-212 (122.4 - 144.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
128 SpA Empoleon Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Steelix: 210-248 (130.4 - 154%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>128 SpA Empoleon Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Drifblim: 120-142 (48 - 56.8%) -- 89.1% chance to 2HKO
128 SpA Empoleon Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Lopunny: 76-90 (51 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>128 SpA Empoleon Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Infernape: 186-218 (108.1 - 126.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
You were saying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 22:00:35 No.32239501 Report

Quoted By: >>32239521 >>32239737

>>32238245
Agree on the other 3, but
Karen: Houndoom, Murkrow, Umbreon, Sneasel, T-Tar.
Was it really that hard to compose a team like this? The even have diverse secondary typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 22:02:53 No.32239521 Report

Quoted By: >>32239782

>>32239501
>Ttar

She should have had a Sneasel but Ttar, they probably didn't want to give anybody but the Champion a pseudo back then

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 22:31:59 No.32239737 Report

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>>32239501
karen took agatha's position
both have themed teams and not simple monotypes until rematches which are hardly canon

agatha is based on fears and scary mons and beside the ghost assonance pun most of her poisonous mons can be also related to agatha christie

karen's team is definitely a witch themed one, poisonous plants, black cats, spoops, crows, hounds and shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Apr 2017 22:36:32 No.32239782 Report

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>>32239270
>Starter solo
I wish you luck against Cynthia

>>32239521
She's technically the leader (Lance's position in RBY), so it would have been a neat parallel to him having the gen 1 pseudo back then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2017 01:10:14 No.32241133 Report

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this shit better get fixed in DiaPer remakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2017 01:47:29 No.32241465 Report

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>>32237311
This is the reason that makes me miss Stadium teams.
I got really disappointed in PWT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2017 02:36:04 No.32241862 Report

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He should've had 6 pokemon. Full teams of 6 are more fun. and that 6th mon should've been Flareon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2017 05:42:57 No.32243110 Report

Quoted By: >>32243170

>>32236918
>literally two fire lines the entire region including the starter
>make one of the E4 a fucking fire specialist

Sinnoh was a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2017 05:46:03 No.32243129 Report

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>fire type specialist
>lol that just means he's a fire type pokemon specialist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2017 05:46:54 No.32243134 Report

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>>32236918
If they ever add difficulty settings I hope every type specialist with a party of five has at least two Pokemon who aren't their associated type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2017 05:50:34 No.32243147 Report

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I wish they would make gym leaders/elite four's like this, you don't have to have 5 of the same type to be a type specialist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2017 05:55:30 No.32243170 Report

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>>32243110
Exactly!
Like OP said, they could've swapped one of his fire types to give him a mixed team

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Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2017 06:32:19 No.32243306 Report

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>>32236987
>200 Attack
>85 speed
>STAB Earthquake and Flare Blitz or Heat Crash
>Coverage moves like Iron Head/Heavy Slam, Crunch, Stone Edge, Exposion, Thunder Fang, and potentially Ice Fang and Aqua Tail.
>Has access to Sneaky Pebbles
>Choice Scarf and Choice Band exist
>Thinking this is at all balanced.

An adamant scarf set will OHKO max physical defense Toxapex after Stealth Rocks (yet die to its scald), has an OHKO on Latios (while outspeeding non-scarfed versions) with Crunch, 2HKOs max defense Lando T after rocks, etc.

While looking at the calcs, its a fucking glass cannon, with no real safe switch ins. It fucking OHKO's standard Greninja after rocks with Flare Blitz for Trump's sake.

Earthquake/Flare Blitz/Crunch/Stone Edge or Iron Head would deal with most threats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Apr 2017 06:47:26 No.32243360 Report

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>>32236987
>anything in the Onix line
>having good Attack

you know they'd probably make it a mixed attacker that was Dragon/Rock type

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