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FIX THAT SHITMON!

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:16:57 No.32286104 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32286133 >>32286166 >>32286182 >>32287582 >>32288442 >>32288654 >>32290408 >>32290434

How on earth was pressure the best ability they could come up with? I mean come the fuck on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:20:32 No.32286120 Report

Quoted By: >>32286123 >>32286130 >>32287120

queenly majesty and a type change

bug/flying is awful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:21:05 No.32286123 Report

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>>32286120
Bug/Dark maybe?

As in "evil queen"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:21:20 No.32286124 Report

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i say bug/psychic would fit the whole hivemind gimmick they have going on

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:21:42 No.32286130 Report

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>>32286120
sneaky pebbles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:22:05 No.32286133 Report

Quoted By: >>32287106

>>32286104

Diamond and pearl remakes coming. Hopefully she'll get some buff.

Honey gather should be turned into an automatic leftovers effect.

New signature move "swarm order" acts as a spikes equivalent, or maybe a bug type stealth rock (which would suck kind of suck)

Bug/poison or bug/fairy or just pure bug would both be better types

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:22:38 No.32286134 Report

Quoted By: >>32286171

>>32286123

>evil queen

How is she evil? Coz shes a stingy bee?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:22:55 No.32286136 Report

Quoted By: >>32286149

>40 speed

Not sure how to fix this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:23:12 No.32286140 Report

Quoted By: >>32286943

Let's be honest, they aren't going to change the type unless it gets a mega. But what mega could possibly be good enough to justify the loss of leftovers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:25:02 No.32286149 Report

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>>32286136

defensive mons don't necessarily need speed, but it has tailwind I guess.

It would be nice for fast roosts to lose ice/electric/rock weakness, and fast destiny bond

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:26:38 No.32286156 Report

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>>32286149
Can't say i'd call it defensive with that typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:31:04 No.32286166 Report

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>>32286104
>Bug/Steel
>Learns Iron Head, Flash Cannon, the usual steel type moves.
>Ability changed to Levitate to represent it flying.

What tier is this bitch now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:32:45 No.32286171 Report

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>>32286134
she's a bee-otch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:33:48 No.32286178 Report

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increase bst to 500 from 474

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:35:37 No.32286182 Report

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>>32286104
How do we fix him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:39:58 No.32286208 Report

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>>32286182
Wonder Guard + Balloon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:54:37 No.32286308 Report

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>>32286182
More bulk and a decent recovery move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:58:12 No.32286332 Report

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>>32286182
>bug and water 3
>learns no water atttacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:01:56 No.32286356 Report

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>>32286332
aqua tail by tutor and rain dance by tm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:05:27 No.32286372 Report

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>>32286332
>learns no water attacks
>What is Aqua Tail

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:16:31 No.32286442 Report

Quoted By: >>32286953 >>32286973 >>32287027

I have 2 ideas

Idea 1: Electric/Dark physical attacker with Reckless or Strong Jaw. Just an improved Luxray

Idea 2: Electric/Poison manticore Mega Evolution with Levitate. Boosts in Attack, Speed, Sp. Defense, and Sp. Atk if needed. Increases moves that go off it's higher Attack, such as Poison Tail. The levitate represents the wings of a manticore and also means it's only weak to psychic attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:18:44 No.32286455 Report

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>>32286372
by tutor not by levelling up, it should get some water moves at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 17:31:15 No.32286924 Report

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>>32286182
>implying Citizen Snips needs fixing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 17:32:52 No.32286941 Report

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>>32286182
>Citizen Snips
>shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 17:33:12 No.32286943 Report

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>>32286140
She has Roost and Heal Order desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 17:34:20 No.32286953 Report

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>>32286442
>Electric/Dark

>Concept is literally the exact opposite of darkness
>let's make it a dark type

Who inflicted this blight of a meme upon the world?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 17:35:13 No.32286961 Report

Quoted By: >>32287257

>>32286941
Citizen Snips is an awful meme set

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 17:36:19 No.32286973 Report

Quoted By: >>32286999

>>32286953
>>32286442

>it's black so it's dark type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 17:40:10 No.32286999 Report

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>>32286953
>>32286973

X-Rays are pretty dark.

Really it's just so it can get STAB Crunch and a wider pool of physical moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 17:43:33 No.32287027 Report

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>>32286442
I have an idea

>Zing Zap isn't a signature anymore, and all Electric mons have access to it
>Wild charge is now 110 BP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 17:53:06 No.32287106 Report

Quoted By: >>32287185

>>32286133
>Unique move that allows her to summon a Combee similar to a totem pokemon
>the combee is half the Vespiquen's level and only knows Gust

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 17:54:39 No.32287120 Report

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>>32286120
Queenly Majesty doesn't help though. Magic Guard would be more useful and sorta not so farfetched (she's the queen so she has this magical aura about her). As for typing I'd say make it pure bug. No other type makes much sense although maybe slapping Fairy could work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:01:54 No.32287185 Report

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>>32287106
I love this one but how could that work on doubles?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:11:17 No.32287257 Report

Quoted By: >>32287591

>>32286961
NO SHUT UP SNIPS IS THE BEST

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:32:57 No.32287406 Report

Quoted By: >>32287542

>>32286166
>Bug/Steel
Enough of this shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:40:36 No.32287467 Report

Quoted By: >>32287485 >>32287537 >>32287716

Someone please fix my favourite mon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:43:15 No.32287485 Report

Quoted By: >>32287517 >>32287762

>>32287467
it needs an evolution, and it needs that evolution to get a mega, and it needs that Mega to get Strong Jaw or Tough Claws or something

Barring that it is literally just a bad Absol, which itself is a bad Weavile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:46:51 No.32287517 Report

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>>32287485
Seconding this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:48:43 No.32287537 Report

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>>32287467
best dark type...but what's with it's head?
>420 bst

...uhh min max as heck to 480

70 >
90 > 113(23)
70
60
60
70 >107(37)

Turn quick feet into sheer force

How's that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:49:45 No.32287542 Report

Quoted By: >>32287568

>>32287406
What type should it be if not Bug/Steel?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:51:43 No.32287560 Report

Quoted By: >>32287602 >>32287726 >>32288282

How do we fix my favorite ghost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:52:33 No.32287568 Report

Quoted By: >>32287790 >>32287836

>>32287542
The only ones that really make any form of sense are:
>Bug
Its just a bug after all
>Bug/Poison
Bees sting
>Bug/Fairy
From the Queenly aspect

Nothing else really fits well. Also we dont want all good bug pokemon having to be bug steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:54:33 No.32287582 Report

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>>32286104
It was gen 4. They didn't make any attempt to do interesting abilities. Look at the legendary Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:55:12 No.32287588 Report

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There's no fixing anything unless GF actually do a large scale stats rebalance for give or take 80% of pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:55:26 No.32287591 Report

Quoted By: >>32287629 >>32287749 >>32287817

>>32287257
Day Dog:
>Steadfast changes to either Strong Jaw or Tough Claws
>Add Ice Fang to egg moves

Night Dog:
>Vital Spirit either changes to Sheer Force, Sturdy or Tough Claws
>Change signature move from Counter to Metal Burst

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:56:38 No.32287602 Report

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>>32287560
higher hp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:59:07 No.32287629 Report

Quoted By: >>32287648

>>32287591
>vital spirit

Why not keen eye? No guard already invalidates its existence completely

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 18:59:14 No.32287632 Report

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Hey it's good in the tcg atleast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:00:29 No.32287648 Report

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>>32287629
It already shares Keen Eye with the Day form and I wanted to keep some symmetry, but you're otherwise right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:01:01 No.32287658 Report

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Well, in the soon DiaPer remakes she's gonna have a mega evo and a new signature ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:08:35 No.32287716 Report

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>>32287467
movie's already a good ability, its just the stats that are lacking. maybe giving it pursuit to start a moxie snowball will help. but it'll still probably be pu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:09:38 No.32287726 Report

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>>32287560
>ghost/fairy

done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:12:23 No.32287749 Report

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>>32287591
Just give night head smash...That's literally all I want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:14:01 No.32287762 Report

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>>32287485
You really don't know what you're talking about.

It's funny how you try to make it sound like you do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:17:08 No.32287790 Report

Quoted By: >>32287836

>>32287568
Nah dog.

Bug/Psychic. Hive mind.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:17:10 No.32287791 Report

Quoted By: >>32287827

HEAD SMASH
BRAVE BIRD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:20:34 No.32287817 Report

Quoted By: >>32287860

>>32287591
Or better yet- GIVE NIGHTDOGE ACCELEROCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:22:09 No.32287827 Report

Quoted By: >>32287959 >>32287967

>>32287791
>Aerodactyl
>shitmon
Can you imagine Mega Aero running Brave Bird and/or Head Smash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:23:31 No.32287836 Report

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>>32287568
>>32287790
Honestly I prefer Bug/Fairy Vespiquen over Bug/Psychic because that Knock Off Weakness would make it arguably even worse off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:26:15 No.32287860 Report

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>>32287817
Humorously I don't care about accelerock anymore when night dog has 100 accuracy stone edges and rock slides. The fact that an attack many rock types would appreciate much more is locked to day dog is asinine as heck though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:33:52 No.32287904 Report

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More speed, some priority, actual bulk, literally ANYTHING would help make this Pokemon not be complete shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:40:35 No.32287959 Report

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>>32287827
non-megadactyl is pretty shitty

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:41:15 No.32287967 Report

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>>32287827

Mega Aero looks like shit though. Easily the worst mega of them all aesthetically.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:45:44 No.32288005 Report

Quoted By: >>32288598

New ability
>Royal Presence (or some shit like that)
>Upon entering, the weilder's minions clear any hazards from the field to make way for their monarch.
New moves/Changes
>Defend/Attack/Heal order applies to all Pokémon on the enemy team in doubles, or both on your team in doubles.
>Call to Arms- Sharply raises Attack/SpA.

And overall stat raises.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:02:51 No.32288166 Report

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>>32287185
It becomes a 3 on 2 fight
Either that or it could just be a cop-out and say "but it failed!"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:19:05 No.32288282 Report

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>>32287560
More padding, duh

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:29:39 No.32288356 Report

Quoted By: >>32288395

A bigger movepool and gif the different sizes different stat distributions that focus on different stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:33:27 No.32288395 Report

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>>32288356
give it a special attack stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:34:10 No.32288404 Report

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Fixing Kyurem B:
Ice punch
Icicle crash
Ice shard

It's not a shitmon, but it could use some actual good physical ice moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:37:34 No.32288442 Report

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>>32286104
>parental bond

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:59:35 No.32288598 Report

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>>32288005
actual good ideas desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 21:07:21 No.32288654 Report

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>>32286104
Bug/Steel

There, I fixed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Apr 2017 01:15:32 No.32290408 Report

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>>32286104
Make it a Bug/Rock type

>Resists Normal, Poison
>2x Weak to Rock, Steel, Water

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Apr 2017 01:18:57 No.32290434 Report

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>>32286104
Increased priority for all Order moves.

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