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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:53:07 No.32286294 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32287985 >>32288266 >>32288455 >>32288599

I WANT

SCALD

FUCKING

GOOOOOONNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 15:56:09 No.32286317 Report

Quoted By: >>32286349 >>32288528

why don't we give the strongest defensive type in the game

listen up oi

why don't we

why don't we give them an 80 bp 100 acc move that burns 30% of the time

:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:00:55 No.32286349 Report

Quoted By: >>32286387 >>32286459

>>32286317
>water
>strongest defensive type
What timeline are you from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:07:40 No.32286387 Report

Quoted By: >>32286428 >>32286492 >>32286816

>>32286349
Salty water haters are the worst.

Water is by no means a fantastic type but that being said, It's not a bad type either. I would say it's above average

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:13:54 No.32286428 Report

Quoted By: >>32286443

>>32286387

>2 weaknesses
>one of which is fucking grass which hardly ever gets used offensively
>4 great resistances
>often get fantastic coverage with ice moves
>just above average

if anything it's top 3 easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:16:50 No.32286443 Report

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>>32286428
It's easily top 3 or 4. Fairy, Steel, and Ghost are its competitiors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:19:14 No.32286459 Report

Quoted By: >>32286484

>>32286349
>water
>throw fairy on it
>literal magic happens defensively and offensively

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:23:12 No.32286484 Report

Quoted By: >>32286495

>>32286459

Water ground is fantastic as long as you can avoid obvious giga drains

Water electric is great except for the ground weakness (which rotom wash avoids)

Even water bug has great offensive synergy, especially if they ever create a fast water/bug with ice beam

Water improves almost every type, except maybe fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:24:42 No.32286492 Report

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>>32286387
>make a claim
>no
>you just hate water

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:24:47 No.32286495 Report

Quoted By: >>32286500 >>32286610

>>32286484
water/flying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:26:03 No.32286500 Report

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>>32286495
drizzle hurricanes? Gyarados

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 16:43:36 No.32286610 Report

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>>32286495
Lightningrod Pelipper?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 17:11:20 No.32286816 Report

Quoted By: >>32286962

>>32286387
It's not the best type but it's pretty damn good on paper. It doesn't tend to be amazing on Pokemon unless it's paired up with some other type though and Water-types also usually get a lot of shitmons.

I do want Scald gone though, if only so that my own goddamn Water-types don't get burned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 17:35:14 No.32286962 Report

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>>32286816
it's one of the most populous types, of course there's gonna be a large number of shitmons.

But they're typing usually isn't the problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 19:43:17 No.32287985 Report

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>>32286294
dumb frogposter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:17:04 No.32288266 Report

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>>32286294
Complaining about Scald now that the burn status was nerfed is 1100 shitter tier desu. Any special Pokémon with Leftovers now shrugs off burn damage easily, if you aren't satisfied still you can run a Tapu Fini and block burns as long as the Misty Terrain is up. And of course the old Scald absorbers like Chansey, Gastrodon and even the Mega Charizards are still there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:39:14 No.32288455 Report

Quoted By: >>32288472

>>32286294
I want Moon Blast last gone, bit that doesn't magically make my Fighting Monotype team viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:41:13 No.32288472 Report

Quoted By: >>32288504 >>32288721

>>32288455
I want fairies either nerfed or removed from the game. What a shitty way to ""balance"" the types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:44:50 No.32288504 Report

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>>32288472
Genuinely the only problematic fairies are the tapus. Delete those, and you've got a balanced type on the whole. Except Xerneas, but ubers is for dumdums.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:49:07 No.32288528 Report

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>>32286317
But the only steal type to learn Lava Plume is Heatran.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:50:04 No.32288536 Report

Quoted By: >>32288581 >>32288590 >>32288607 >>32288629

Remove
>Scald
>Entry Hazards except for Spikes
>Tapus/Genies/Ultra Beasts
>Megas
>Z-Moves
Congratulations, the meta isn't shit now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:56:09 No.32288581 Report

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>>32288536
So No Stealth Rock DPP OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:58:01 No.32288590 Report

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>>32288536
Guzzlord did nothing wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 20:59:39 No.32288599 Report

Quoted By: >>32288615

>>32286294
All scald needs is to be 5PP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 21:00:55 No.32288607 Report

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>>32288536
>wanting to make stall even more cancerous
kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 21:01:37 No.32288615 Report

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>>32288599
>5 pp
>for an average bp move with no drawback
waste of doubles desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 21:04:08 No.32288629 Report

Quoted By: >>32288664 >>32288757

>>32288536
Go play ADV. Oh wait, you'd probably still cry about Tyranitar on every other team. Maybe you should try GSC, except you'd also probably cry about Snorlax: the meta: the musical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 21:08:32 No.32288664 Report

Quoted By: >>32288790

>>32288629
Tyranitar and Snorlax were less aggravating than the things he listed

By the way, Tyranitar has similar usage to land doggo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 21:15:16 No.32288721 Report

Quoted By: >>32288799 >>32288972

>>32288472
Fairy now deal super efective damage to ghost. Dark now deal super efective damage to fairy but dark is still weak to fairy. Water, grass and electric resist fairy
I fixed them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 21:20:41 No.32288757 Report

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>>32288629
On Showdown they just added GSC OU (No Snorlax)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 21:25:35 No.32288790 Report

Quoted By: >>32288809

>>32288664
>snorlax was less aggravating than ubs/tapus/SR
fuck no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 21:26:38 No.32288799 Report

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>>32288721
Nah, what you should do is
>everything hits fairy super effectively
>fairy doesn't hit anything super effectively
>gamefreak apologizes for creating this faggot type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 21:28:13 No.32288809 Report

Quoted By: >>32288913

>>32288790
Snorlax was just a good curser. He didn't have bloated stats, OP type, he didn't completely block certain kinds of moves or stats nor could OHKO stuff without boosts.

I'm sorry if people sucked and couldn't close the match before Snorlax boosted, but that doesn't means that it was worse than gen 7 crap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 21:47:10 No.32288913 Report

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>>32288809
>I have no idea what I'm talking about
Literally the entire GSC metagame revolves around Snorlax. The Smogon article for Snorlax in Gen II states that it's so good that it should be in EVERY SINGLE TEAM. Snorlax was so good that you put yourself immediately at a disadvantage by not having it in your team, despite everyone being prepared for it (because they had to be prepared for it, otherwise they lost). It's kind of like what Primal Groudon is in Ubers currently, only better and with more usage. There will never ever be a metagame more overcentralized than GSC, which was Snorlax: The Meta. Calling it "just a good curser" might very well be the biggest understatement in the history of competitive Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Apr 2017 21:56:53 No.32288972 Report

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>>32288721
>Water, grass and electric resist fairy

Water doesn't need any buffs. Give resistances to Ice and Bug if you want to fix types.

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