>>32387194>>32387179>Greninja not even standing a chance against a weakened Charizard.You have to understand just how bullshit strong they established Alan's Charizard is long before that fight even happened. Alan OHKOed a fresh elite 4 mega that's resistant to fire after fighting 9 other mega trainers using only a potion and a pecha berry.
Even before the training from Lysandre, Alan's Charizard was trading hits with Steven's Mega Metagross. It got hit by flash cannon and then got drilled into a mountain by a champion's mega ace. It was fine afterwards. Not even Mega Rayquaza's Dragon Ascent KOed Charizard. It got its fall broken by Metagross but it retained mega form and was flying afterwards. Primal Groudon hurt it badly but didn't KO it since the mega form didn't drop. The only person to have KOed Alan's Charizard was Siebold at the start of the mega series when it was still inexperienced and it required 2 super effective dragon pulses and a hydro pump.
It tanked an extreme speed and a super effective signature Land's Wrath from Zygarde and was fine afterwards. He even battled Zygarde to the point that Flare's lasers could bring it down. If you were wondering, those lasers were used against Puni-chan and Team Rocket and all it achieved was making them a little tired, they didn't even pass out. And as a reference point to how strong Zygarde was, its dragon pulse was a giant 3 headed blast compared to Siebold's 1 headed dragon pulse.
I think the problem was, people never really saw the writing on the wall until it involved their MC Ash losing. When Alan OHKOed an elite 4, people called it shenanigans and that Malva was holding back. Turns out it was legit. Which is why I didn't even bat an eye when Charizard just took a gorillion attacks from Ash's Pikachu and Greninja and just wobbled a little.
Was it bullshit? Yes, with how ridiculous they made Alan's Charizard to be. Was it an asspull that came out of nowhere? No, it was very clearly established.
