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Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 02:54:33 No.32484898 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32485672 >>32485750 >>32488579 >>32488588

How do you feel about type immunities? Wouldn't it be better if an immunity gets downgraded to super effectivity if the other type is weak to it, rather than the immunity prevailing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 03:13:52 No.32485057 Report

Quoted By: >>32486909

It's simple math

If a Pokemon is weak to a move, the move does 2x damage

If a Pokemon is immune to a move, the move does 0x damage

2 x 0 is still 0

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 05:29:32 No.32485672 Report

Quoted By: >>32486154

>>32484898
The whole typing system is broken.
Flying shouldn't be a type; it describes an action rather than a quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 05:45:40 No.32485721 Report

Quoted By: >>32486961

I'm fine with immunties. If anything singe typed pokemon need some kind of buff since dual typed pokemon are more often than not better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 05:53:44 No.32485747 Report

Quoted By: >>32488556

I'm fine with type immunities existing, I just wish there were more moves that played around with them. Like OP's pic related, Bonemerang should have the ability to hit airborne targets even though it's a ground type move because the move is literally throwing the bone rather than just swinging it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 05:57:08 No.32485750 Report

Quoted By: >>32485760

>>32484898
Grass should have been immune to fairies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 06:02:39 No.32485760 Report

Quoted By: >>32485885 >>32485960

>>32485750
Fairies often control plants and bugs to do their bidding though.

Seriously I don't know where you pulled that shit out, fairies where never weak to trees outside of a very specific plebothinum post Lovecraft influence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 06:41:05 No.32485885 Report

Quoted By: >>32487067

>>32485760
Fairies as a creature of nature would never harm a harmless plant
IMO their pressence on bug should be neutral.
Bugs are indeed often portrayed as fairies pets but also as a huge problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 07:02:01 No.32485960 Report

Quoted By: >>32487067

>>32485760
How things are portrayed in legend/the real world shouldn't have complete influence on a type especially a type as busted as fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 08:04:20 No.32486154 Report

Quoted By: >>32486961

>>32485672
Semantics. It describes the quality of not being grounded, like minior or celesteela.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 13:36:13 No.32486909 Report

Quoted By: >>32486933 >>32486961 >>32487027

>>32485057
Unnecesary math imo.
I also wish 4x damage was replaced by 3x damage so there would be less ohko,

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 13:47:24 No.32486933 Report

Quoted By: >>32488212

>>32486909
>Unnecesary math imo.
There's no such thing as unnecessary math. Math is the only absolute, objective and exact truth in this universe, and it just happens to be the reason why immunities work like they do. It just makes sense and the numbers don't lie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 13:56:01 No.32486961 Report

Quoted By: >>32487027 >>32488266 >>32488289

>>32485721
What if STAB was nerfed to be 25% for dual-type?

>>32486154
If that's the reasoning, then I wish all fully-evolved regional birds would lose Normal type, because conceptually their quality of not being grounded far outweighs their quality of resembling IRL animals, just like pokémon that are literally "animal + fire" such as Ponyta don't HAVE to be Normal/Fire type.

>>32486909
I agree. There are more otherwise decent pokémon screwed by double weakness than otherwise broken ones balanced by double weakness.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 14:14:32 No.32487027 Report

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>>32486909
>>32486961

>3x ice weakness multiscale dragonite

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 14:25:48 No.32487067 Report

Quoted By: >>32487755

>>32485885
Fairies where never part of nature, in many folktales they were harbingers of destruction above all natural laws.

>>32485960
They do, literal plebothinum and coldsteel are their weaknesse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 16:58:22 No.32487755 Report

Quoted By: >>32488373

>>32487067
You don't know half of what you say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 18:15:48 No.32488212 Report

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>>32486933
Ok.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 18:25:57 No.32488266 Report

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>>32486961
I'm pretty sure that the Normal type was only added to replace the Bird type and to give Pokémon with no type a typing. It was a mistake. (I think that it was also a move type before a Pokémon type.)
I have a complete replacement for the old typing system in mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 18:29:34 No.32488289 Report

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>>32486961
I really can't see anything wrong with that STAB change. It would slow down matches that can sometimes come down to "they used a Z move at the right time and it killed me even without a weakness".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 18:42:21 No.32488373 Report

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>>32487755
Go and read some actual fairy shit man.

They are always on the destructive side, the fairfolk were never nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 19:22:32 No.32488556 Report

Quoted By: >>32488570

>>32485747
So you want bonemerang to become Thousand Arrows?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 19:25:59 No.32488570 Report

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>>32488556
I would preffer if it only hit flying types and didn't have a smack down effect to set it apart from thousand arrows (i.e. a marowak with it can hit skarmory or crobat for SE damage always and not only after the first turn)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 19:27:20 No.32488579 Report

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>>32484898
In double or triple battes have it so that hitting with an attack that the enemy is immune causes the next allied pokemon to lose their turn. In contrary hitting super effective hits causes your pokemon to gain one more turn (only works once per player turn per pokemon)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 19:30:26 No.32488588 Report

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>>32484898
What if immunities were changed to be 1/4 effectiveness? Would there be some type interactions that should be changed to super-duper effectiveness (ie x4 damage)?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 08 May 2017 19:31:37 No.32488593 Report

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>Acid that can dissolve a tanker's hull!

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