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SEND A MON STRAIGHT TO AG

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 11:48:04 No.32500330 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32500368 >>32503161 >>32503267 >>32503286 >>32503326 >>32503395 >>32504022

Greetings /vp/
ITT we send a shitmon straight to AG, however you may only choose 1 out of these three in order to do so:
>change stats
>change ability
>change movepool or typing
yes, you are allowed to make up new of whatever you chose.
Start with pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 11:56:43 No.32500368 Report

Quoted By: >>32503207

>>32500330
>change stats
100
90
95
130
95
110

Hard Mode
80
70
80
110
80
90

>change ability
Stays the same

>change movepool or typing
Stays the same

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Wed 10 May 2017 11:56:46 No.32500369 Report

Quoted By: >>32500375

>Flying
>Delta Stream
>70/10/80/140/90/130
>Weather Ball's now boosted and Flying-type under Delta Stream
>Learns Quiver Dance + Baton Pass + Recover

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 11:59:01 No.32500375 Report

Quoted By: >>32500384

>>32500369
>you may only choose 1 out of these three in order to do so

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Wed 10 May 2017 12:01:37 No.32500384 Report

Quoted By: >>32500418 >>32500448

>>32500375
Heh, oops.
In that case, Castform's biggest problem is its stats so I'd realistically give it stat buffs based on the weather forme it's in which it should already have. Maybe +20 to its defences in regular forme.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 12:08:52 No.32500418 Report

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>>32500384
Great, now do this one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 12:15:54 No.32500448 Report

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>>32500384
true enough, its movesets are pretty damn god tier
honestly it would be ou if, even only during weather, its sp-atk and speed reached 100+

Rain dance would be completely nuts with access to the Weather Ball/Scald - Thunder - Hurricane combo and a fair amount of coverage moves left to fill the hole and even sunny day would be interesting in that it has the typical [fire move] - solar beam combo but can actually add the bolt-beam onto that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 20:14:33 No.32502813 Report

Quoted By: >>32503816

These no longer need to be on their mons for them to mega, also, you can have as many mega pokemon as you want on a team

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 20:18:25 No.32502834 Report

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>pick a pokemon
>give it 255 hp
wow that was hard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:05:33 No.32503161 Report

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>>32500330
>learns electrify

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:06:59 No.32503170 Report

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Smeargle - Mold breaker

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:13:19 No.32503207 Report

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>>32500368
With these stats, it will just stay OU:
>perma-weather is gone except for Primals
>Only half-decent Special STAB is weather ball, which need weather to get gud
>Normal Typing except under 3 weathers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:20:00 No.32503245 Report

Quoted By: >>32503302

Magcargo
New Ability: Searing Shield
(Replaces Magma Armor)

Essentially an extreme reverse “Water Bubble”

+It’s Fire Type Attacks have their BP doubled
+Automatically burns any Pokémon that make physical contact with it.
+Water Type Attacks “evaporate” before they can hit it.
+Cannot be frozen

Forget AG, is it usable now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:22:32 No.32503267 Report

Quoted By: >>32503305 >>32503323

>>32500330
>change ability
Forecast now doubles the stats of this pokémon in weather.
Not sure if AG or Ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:25:31 No.32503286 Report

Quoted By:

>>32500330
>change stats
255
255
255
255
255
255

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:27:47 No.32503302 Report

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>>32503245
>Ekans used Mud Bomb!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:28:59 No.32503305 Report

Quoted By: >>32503351

>>32503267
countered by rayquaza

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:31:27 No.32503323 Report

Quoted By: >>32503351

>>32503267
Maybe also make it transform into a flying-type in delta stream.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:31:51 No.32503326 Report

Quoted By: >>32504022 >>32506046

>>32500330
255 in every stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:35:32 No.32503351 Report

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>>32503323
>>32503305
Yeah that'd definitely do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:40:21 No.32503395 Report

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>>32500330
Castform's forecast ability now also summons the weather indicated by a held rock (damp rock, smooth rock, etc.) for 8 turns. It gains a new sandy form (rock) for sandstorm, and a windy form (flying) for delta stream.
It also gets u-turn, volt switch and recover.

Those things alone should settle it as one of, if not the best weather setter, that can work well in any kind of weather team. If drizzle made pelipper OU this should also make castform OU.

Now I don't know if it'll make it ubers let alone AG, but give it 115 in Speed and SpA. It is now the fastest weather setter and dangerous offensively even. You can remove the points from the attack stat as it will never use that one.

That's the best I could think of without making up new moves or stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:55:53 No.32503512 Report

Quoted By: >>32503524

maybe not AG, but boomburst porygon-z would be ubers for sure, no other changes needed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 21:58:31 No.32503524 Report

Quoted By: >>32503548

>>32503512
What about its speed and ghosts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 22:01:10 No.32503548 Report

Quoted By: >>32503847

>>32503524
after a nasty plot, it ohkos every single pokemon in the entire meta that isn't named chansey or sableye
it would be busted to hell and back on scolipass teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 22:34:18 No.32503816 Report

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>>32502813
thats mix and mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 22:38:24 No.32503847 Report

Quoted By: >>32503997

>>32503548
it still has the issue that it needs to set up and it is stuck at a fairly bad speed tier with a not particularly impressive bulk so it still faces the same problems conversion-z does in that it requires you to build your team around him, its not a "one mon fits all" deal like megagross or lando. I could actually see boomburst p-z just move up to S tier

that said boomburst on a porygon-z would actually hit harder than a SE 110 power attack so it could actually get away with running both nasty plot and agility in addition to a single coverage move (shadow ball or thunderbolt would be most appropriate)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 23:01:38 No.32503997 Report

Quoted By: >>32504152

>>32503847
even so, modest scarf can ohko a huge amount of pokemon that don't resist it, and 2hko most that do

it's ridiculously strong, and could fit on a lot of teams i think

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 23:04:30 No.32504022 Report

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>>32500330

Stats are doubled under weather. Not base stats, total stats.

>>32503326

Sturdy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 May 2017 23:20:39 No.32504152 Report

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>>32503997
modest scarf would be a fairly one trick pony sort of deal though and at it's speed tier it cannot afford to go modest on a scarf set, it's only got 90 base speed
remember lele, at 95 base speed, NEEDS timid

I'd say another reason it wouldn't necessarily go ubers is that the metagame would evolve to deal with it. Ghost types would gain more popularity, priority would see a rise again etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:44:42 No.32506046 Report

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>>32503326
Or a better typing (Steel/Bug, Ghost/Dark, Ghost/Normal, etc), or just minmaxed stats.

Say, 1/120/5/5/5/120 or so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 12:54:08 No.32508139 Report

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