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Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 20:38:43 No.32517791 View View Reply Original Report

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Who would win

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 20:39:27 No.32517793 Report

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>>32517791
Jibanyan

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 20:40:29 No.32517801 Report

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>>32517791
Mega Charizard X.

It completely and utterly destroyed Mewtwo, the canonically most powerful Pokemon of all time, in close combat.

Since it's that strong, Mega Charizard X can easily sweep the floor with most Digimon.

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Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 21:06:11 No.32517957 Report

Quoted By: >>32518032 >>32520199

>>32517791

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 21:18:10 No.32518032 Report

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>>32517957
Not canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 21:22:30 No.32518055 Report

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Now that I notice, Greymon is just the Charizard of Digimon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 21:28:39 No.32518108 Report

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>>32517791
WarGreymon would just take one look at zard and it'd be vaporized.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 21:31:59 No.32518130 Report

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It's been done before, it depends on which version of each, some versions of Charizard fucking stomp Adventures Wargreymon while some Wargreymon like with Chrome Digizoid armor stomp Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 21:32:18 No.32518134 Report

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>>32517801
Satire? I ask because there are retards that truly believe this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 21:34:47 No.32518156 Report

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>>32517791
We all know that the digimon powers are made to be a wet dream for the kids, probably Wargreymon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 21:35:55 No.32518166 Report

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>>32518130
This is going strictly off feats too, no theorizing involved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 21:40:24 No.32518205 Report

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>>32518166
Well, if we do consider the matter Megas were made out to be even stronger than Mewtwo, then yes, they might stand a chance against WarGreymon. Y more than X, since X would at least tie since they both have abilities designed to destroy other Dragon types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 21:42:00 No.32518218 Report

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>>32517801
>Mewtwo, the canonically most powerful Pokemon of all time

Lol, it stopped being the most powerful pokemon in gen 2, it was outclassed entirely by gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 21:44:38 No.32518240 Report

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>>32518218
Nah,
Arcues
Creation trio
Lake trio
Perfect Zygarde/Mega Fug
Primals
Mewtwo would be around here, original dragon excluded due to being just theories at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 May 2017 21:48:51 No.32518276 Report

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>>32518205
Origins Charizard would get fucking stomped by normal Greymon.
Charizard that could win tend to be from various manga and such not origins with the best feat being a small building bust and Mewtwo being fodder compared to any other version of Mewtwo like Anime, Pokken, Special, SMD and more.

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Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 02:28:58 No.32520121 Report

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>>32517791
We had this conversation before. While I love charizard it is simply no match for a WarGraymon. Pokemon grow in a linear level while digimon grow in an exponential level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 02:35:20 No.32520165 Report

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>>32518032
Accurate explanation though
>>32518276
Death Battle's research team used to do blog posts about who they think would win (until they were promoted in Sweet Tooth vs Joker and they couldn't do blogs based on matches the show will use anymore)
This is what they had to say

>Finally there’s the fact……..that THIS ENTIRE BLOG IS SKEWED TOWARDS CHARIZARD TO GIVE HIM THE GREATEST CHANCE! We used multiple Charizards to scale Red’s Charizard, while didn’t really do that for the Agumon-line because that would make him broken. We acknowledge usable items from Pokemon, but not the Digimon games.
>Did you know Wargreymon has alternate even more powerful forms he can access in the games or other media? We didn’t mention those, but we mentioned both Mega-evolutions for Charizard. The Agumon line can learn many more moves in the games than what we listed here, though we only brought up Charizard’s other learned or taught moves.
>We mentioned all 4 of Charizards abilities, even though he can only really have 1 at a time. However we didn’t mention Wargreymon basically has an equivalent in the games, where he can equip 4 at once that heighten his stats even more and more or less NULLIFY FIRE ATTACKS.
>Honestly it says a lot when we bassically make a super composite for Charizard and then remove or don’t mention a ton of stuff for Augmon, and Charizard still comes up short.
>I’m sorry I love Charizard but he’s not winning this fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 02:38:41 No.32520199 Report

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>>32517957
What was more painful?
Blastoise ripping off Charizard's wings and then proceeding to grab her by the throat and pump her with water til she exploded or Red's Mega Charizard X being eviscerated, crippled, and then nuked by Wargreymon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 03:45:58 No.32520594 Report

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>>32520165
Yes and? Feats exist regardless, some Charizards are subsonic and small building, others are large island to country and quadruple digit mach. It depends on the version..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 03:50:26 No.32520623 Report

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DeathBattle is fucking stupid because two shows with different in-universe logic will never line up power levels and trying to use "real world logic" is an exercise in futility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 03:53:35 No.32520649 Report

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>>32520199
Charizard getting eviscerated, crippled, tossed on to its 10 year old trainer thus crippling him as well, and then both of them getting nuked/burned alive by Wargreymon, easy. The loss against Blastoise was almost slapstick and cartoony but the way Wargreymon fucked it up was way more brutal and hard to watch.
Also obligatory
>her

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 13:07:16 No.32523068 Report

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>>32517801
Charizard X is a dragon
Wargreymon has claws designed specifically to take down dragons and is significantly more powerful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 13:17:19 No.32523110 Report

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>>32518240
No, it's around Rayquaza, Lugia, Palkia, Dialga, Zekrom, Reshiram and so on. Your headcanon isn't relevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 13:23:22 No.32523124 Report

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>>32523110
>Mewtwo
>on par with literal gods and deities
And you're saying his head canon is shitty?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 13:24:51 No.32523130 Report

Quoted By: >>32523191 >>32523261

>>32523124
Mega Rayquaza, Arceus and the Primals are stronger than regular Mewtwo. Mewtwo is on par with regular Rayquaza and the other legends I mentioned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 13:25:26 No.32523133 Report

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>>32517791
>an animal vs a machine made for WAR
Really, I wonder who would fucking win this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 13:27:03 No.32523135 Report

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>>32518240
>Lake trio
The fuck? They're fucking shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 13:41:42 No.32523191 Report

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>>32523130
>Mewtwo is on par with regular Rayquaza and the other legends I mentioned.
Yeah no. Come back when Mewtwo has done anything on par with them because lore wise it's a low tier legend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 13:54:53 No.32523246 Report

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>>32523191
>anything on par with them
Let's see, Lore-wise, normal Rayquaza has done... Stop a fight by talking some sense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 13:57:17 No.32523261 Report

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>>32523130
Stronger than Mewtwo gameplay wise, sure.

Lore wise however, Mewtwo is canonically stronger than all of these.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 14:19:48 No.32523367 Report

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>>32523261
Got that backwards son.
Mewtwo is stronger gameplay wise but far weaker lore wise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 14:23:26 No.32523390 Report

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>>32517791
The most popular

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 14:29:13 No.32523419 Report

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>>32523261
>>32523367
He's neither, gameplay wise he's equal and lore wise he's equal, considering Mewtwo never fought any of them and has equal BST

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 14:30:56 No.32523423 Report

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>>32523390
So WarGreymon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 14:33:07 No.32523431 Report

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>>32523423

As that channel is for kids, I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 14:35:04 No.32523437 Report

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>>32523419
Yes because a one to one fight is totally the only way to determine strength in terms of lore. Went are Mewtwofags so retarded

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Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 14:38:36 No.32523451 Report

Quoted By: >>32523467 >>32523484 >>32523504

This is such a dumb discussion since we know for a fact that Digimon power levels are on a whole another level when compared to Pokemon. Most Ultimate level Digimon already are probably capable of beating almost any Pokemon 1v1, and when we move to Mega level Digimon things really get out of hand. Even the weaker ones are capable of killing (not knocking out, but killing) equally powerful monster with a single hit. The powerful ones can destroy entire cities or countries, and the obscenely strong ones can destroy planets, galaxies and pretty much anything they want. I could see Pokemon like Giratina, Arceus, M-Rayquaza and Hoopa-U having an even match with some of the weaker Mega level Digimon I just realized that I'd love to see M-Fug vs Metalseadramon battle but honestly that's pretty much it.

tl;dr it's pointless to compare a series where the power levels are still reasonable to a series where monsters are capable of destroying entire dimensions

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Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 14:41:59 No.32523467 Report

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>>32523451
Believe it or not there are people who think that Digimon power levels are on par with Pokemon.
It's ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 14:45:34 No.32523484 Report

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>>32523451
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 14:50:58 No.32523504 Report

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>>32523451
This is exactly why I will never understand this particular discussion. I don't think many people actually know how strong digimon actually is while Pokemon on the other hand seems pretty reasonable power level wise outside of a few hax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 15:08:11 No.32523579 Report

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>>32523419
Arceus would destroy Mewtwo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 15:11:06 No.32523588 Report

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>>32523504
That's because most people's familiarity with Digimon ends with Adventure 1 and Apocalymon seems about as powerful as Giratina

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 May 2017 15:15:45 No.32523612 Report

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>>32517791
Cancer. Cancer wins.

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