>>32531629that's kinda odd... I never remembered having any real trouble in XY, the champion was piss easy thanks to super training making it ezpz to EV your pokemon perfectly. By that point I already had a gengar I traded to and back with a friend, and some other favorite mons. On the other hand the E4 of SM I actually gave me some trouble, mostly because - fighting, flying, rock and ghost gives them stellar coverage. 0 no effect, 0 not very, 238 normal, 670 super effective.