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Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 05:31:11 No.32549250 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32549253 >>32549432 >>32549462 >>32549484 >>32550129 >>32550563 >>32550662 >>32550886

Why does /vp/ hate essentials so much?
Is it because it's too user-friendly?
Or is it because of some animations still using stock assets?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 05:31:45 No.32549253 Report

Quoted By: >>32549280

>>32549250
>Is it because it's too user-friendly
But it's not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 05:34:16 No.32549262 Report

Quoted By: >>32549306

Performance issues. And there are a lot of shitty devs who don't take advantage of the fact that it's essentials and their game still has the shitty default FRLG graphics.

but if you do more than a romhack allows then I don't mind essentials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 05:36:55 No.32549280 Report

Quoted By: >>32549301

>>32549253
A lot more user-friendly when compared to making actual ROM hacks for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 05:42:30 No.32549301 Report

Quoted By: >>32550573

>>32549280
I can't use anything that's more complex than Mario Maker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 05:43:22 No.32549306 Report

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>>32549262
>And there are a lot of shitty devs who don't take advantage of the fact that it's essentials and their game still has the shitty default FRLG graphics.
Could be worse, could use gen 4 graphics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 06:17:38 No.32549432 Report

Quoted By: >>32550080

>>32549250
I play emulators so the game is fast because I'm autisticly inpatient, is there a way to speed up essentials while playing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 06:25:34 No.32549462 Report

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>>32549250
Bloated, slow and retarded.
Just give me code I can work with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 06:31:10 No.32549484 Report

Quoted By: >>32549502 >>32549635 >>32549990 >>32550817

>>32549250
>RPG Maker XP
If someone made an Essentials for Unity I would use the shit out of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 06:35:00 No.32549502 Report

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>>32549484
>yet another bloated game "engine"
At least Unity is respectable.

Pokemon engine in SDL when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 07:01:30 No.32549635 Report

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>>32549484
https://github.com/superusercode/PokemonUnity

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 08:36:42 No.32549988 Report

Quoted By: >>32550038 >>32550538 >>32550934

Is Sage and Phoenix rising the only good essentials games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 08:37:13 No.32549990 Report

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>>32549484
it exists, and it's actually pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XozaGOtIGys

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 09:02:09 No.32550038 Report

Quoted By: >>32550079

>>32549988
is this from sage? holy shit that's beautiful

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 09:27:58 No.32550079 Report

Quoted By: >>32550820

>>32550038
>is this from sage?

yes, they have pretty overworlds, phoenix rising's are on average even better looking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 09:28:16 No.32550080 Report

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>>32549432
Cheat Engine has a speedhack function

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 09:49:58 No.32550129 Report

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>>32549250
I've never seen whatever that is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 12:00:52 No.32550419 Report

Quoted By: >>32550577

The only people that hate Essentials are ROM hackers and phoneposters that love to play their Fire Red on their phones.

Essentials is (objectively):
>Laggy (when compared to Romhacks)
Although a smart dev will keep lag at minimal levels, or you can use a speedhack like Cheat Engine's and play at x2 - x3 speed anyway
>Has no end in possibilities
If you're a codefag like me, you can create pretty cool mechanics in Essentials, like I am but won't shill because it's too early for that. However most devs will usually serve stock mechanics because nobody wants to learn how to code.
>Not playable on your phone
Can't argue with that, playing on phones would be a plus to get a wider audience, but I cant say I care much about having to play on a computer, since I spend most of my time in front of one anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 15:35:39 No.32550538 Report

Quoted By: >>32550556 >>32550625 >>32550827

>>32549988
Ethereal Gates too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 15:40:23 No.32550556 Report

Quoted By: >>32550576

>>32550538
fk off evam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 15:42:59 No.32550563 Report

Quoted By: >>32550565

>>32549250
when I play a pokemon fan game I like being able to got at something faster than normal gameplay speed like on the gba emulators

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 15:43:34 No.32550565 Report

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>>32550563
Cheat Engine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 15:46:17 No.32550573 Report

Quoted By:

>>32549301
KEK, this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 15:46:30 No.32550576 Report

Quoted By: >>32550625

>>32550556
I dunno who that is but EG is definitely in the same league as Sage and PR, at least in terms of production values, even surpassing them in some ways like UI design.
Game looks fucking slick.

I wanted to post a screenshot but 4chan's still fucked apparently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 15:47:54 No.32550577 Report

Quoted By: >>32550628

>>32550419
>because it's too early for that.

Do it anyways anon, i'm interested

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 16:09:33 No.32550625 Report

Quoted By:

>>32550576
>>32550538
I thought about mentioning it but IMO sage and PR are one tier above it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 16:10:54 No.32550628 Report

Quoted By: >>32550640

>>32550577
Don't want to show much, but I'm including Layton-like puzzles, nothing mind-blowing, but it's interactive.

e.g. Puzzle #1 is pushing two keys in order to turn the dials on an old radio

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 16:12:17 No.32550640 Report

Quoted By: >>32550673

>>32550628
You can't tease us like this, cmon. At least give us a planned name so we know when we see it later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 16:22:13 No.32550662 Report

Quoted By:

>>32549250
An image for Durants

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 16:26:56 No.32550673 Report

Quoted By: >>32550716

>>32550640
No name yet, it's too early, sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 16:47:04 No.32550716 Report

Quoted By: >>32550833

>>32550673
Well, I tried.

Have you considered contributing to sage or PR at all? You sound like you'd be of assistance to them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:18:58 No.32550817 Report

Quoted By: >>32550895

>>32549484
>make a 2D game in a 3D engine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:19:49 No.32550820 Report

Quoted By: >>32550836 >>32550846 >>32550915

>>32550079
Since that one's not better than the Sage one you posted, I'm gonna assume that Sage has a lot of mediocre ones to pull the average down?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:21:37 No.32550827 Report

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>>32550538
Is it actually good? I was too offput by the shitty aesthetics to bother finding out it it was good in other ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:24:04 No.32550833 Report

Quoted By: >>32550846 >>32550847 >>32551066 >>32551499

>>32550716
Nah I think they have people more talented than I am, I just polish stuff a lot and have a lot of attention to detail

Ive also been investing time in other cute changes like adding Gen IV two-frame animations ("Upload failed." so can't show ya)

Thanks for the interest though. It might not be the prettiest game ever (one man's work), but I know it'll be enjoyable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:24:16 No.32550836 Report

Quoted By: >>32550854

>>32550820
It varies. The first pic posted of the city is probably the flashiest area in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:27:45 No.32550846 Report

Quoted By: >>32550854 >>32550867

>>32550820
The first one posted is one most impressive ones in the game so far, yeah.

I don't think the second one I posted is bad, though. Overall, I would say Phenoix rising looks better then sage slightly on average, but sage is 2-3 steps above etheral gates, and the next best looking thing after EG is absolutely not even on the same plane of quality.

>>32550833
imgur it, i'm not even sure what you mean by two frame animations

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:27:48 No.32550847 Report

Quoted By: >>32550903

>>32550833
PR is like that but I'm pretty sure Sage will take whomever, especially when it comes to code since they tend to have way more coding work than available coders, and they love sparkledick features like you discuss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:29:35 No.32550854 Report

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>>32550836
So far, but I'm looking forward to their take on Tenochtitlan.

>>32550846
>the next best looking thing after EG is absolutely not even on the same plane of quality.
You can best EG just by using GW rips though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:34:23 No.32550867 Report

Quoted By: >>32550876

>>32550846
https://webmshare.com/qN7OQ
http://imgur.com/a/0TVY3

First's a webm cause I realised it records the screen better (the GIF ones have awful frameskipping when recorded)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:36:53 No.32550876 Report

Quoted By: >>32550884

>>32550867
can you upload the sneasel one as a webm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:38:18 No.32550884 Report

Quoted By:

>>32550876
Would have to re-record and I'm busy right now, sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:39:32 No.32550886 Report

Quoted By: >>32550897

>>32549250
It's slow as fuck. I'd rather kill myself than play a essentials game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:41:18 No.32550895 Report

Quoted By: >>32550901

>>32550817
Pokemon has been using 3D since gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:42:42 No.32550897 Report

Quoted By:

>>32550886
Cheat Engine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:44:39 No.32550901 Report

Quoted By:

>>32550895
>since it started going downhill
Funny, that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:44:42 No.32550903 Report

Quoted By: >>32550931

>>32550847
Apparently they got a new coder guy some months ago who fixed all their problems, like stairs, follower mons, performance issues and a bunch of other shit that was there for years
...so they finally have the ability to properly code all the fancy features they want to add now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:48:12 No.32550915 Report

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>>32550820
both screenshots are from Sage btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:50:46 No.32550931 Report

Quoted By: >>32550950

>>32550903
Yep. The new guy, Nave, is a fucking godsend

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:51:30 No.32550934 Report

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>>32549988
Looks good, guess I am going to play the demo, the fakemon and their evolution methods look neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:57:08 No.32550950 Report

Quoted By: >>32550964 >>32551010

>>32550931
sounds just like any other fag working on the game to me, everyone claiming to do stuff but still 2.0 hasn't come out for years and probably never will

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:57:43 No.32550951 Report

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Do you prefer Gen 3 graphics or Gen IV graphics? Talking about the Overworld/map, not in-battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 17:59:19 No.32550956 Report

Quoted By: >>32550958

Reminder that's there's usually a thread to talk game dev if anyone wants to learn. I know I'll help.
>>>/heg/
Never linked like this please let it work

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 18:00:23 No.32550958 Report

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>>32550956
W/e xDDDDD :^P lawl
>>32508207

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 18:05:37 No.32550964 Report

Quoted By: >>32550972

>>32550950
next month pinky swear

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 18:08:43 No.32550972 Report

Quoted By: >>32551010

>>32550964
yes because I'm gonna trust a promise from a random anon .

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 18:20:17 No.32551010 Report

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>>32550950
The main administrative person recently said about three weeks unless something unexpected happens ant takes a lot of time. This is consistent with the official "a month or two" estimate made a month ago. It's only very slightly late compared to the "early 2017" estimate made like a year ago.

>>32550972
No such thing as promises. It's not a corporate product.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 18:32:34 No.32551066 Report

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>>32550833
Any and all help is appreciated if you actually have any interest in helping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:11:31 No.32551499 Report

Quoted By: >>32551854 >>32553065

>>32550833
We would love to have you, any way for us to contact you to get you on board?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 21:10:59 No.32551854 Report

Quoted By: >>32551859 >>32551951

>>32551499
whoa sage is are desperate

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 21:12:02 No.32551859 Report

Quoted By:

>>32551854
*-are

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 21:28:57 No.32551951 Report

Quoted By:

>>32551854
More the merrier

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 00:41:23 No.32553065 Report

Quoted By: >>32553233

>>32551499
I should be the one asking that, anon
I never really browse the ocassional Sage thread so Im out of the loop. Contact info? A forum? Board? I know you have a Wikia

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 01:08:28 No.32553233 Report

Quoted By: >>32553361

>>32553065
message empty#9724 on discord

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 01:28:08 No.32553361 Report

Quoted By:

>>32553233
maybe tomorrow, its 3 am

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