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Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 18:34:15 No.32551077 View View Reply Original Report

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was fairy type a mistake?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 18:38:47 No.32551087 Report

Quoted By: >>32551191 >>32551405 >>32551491 >>32555228 >>32558217

OP, i assume you're prepared for the waves of dragonfags that are just gonna spam "HURR DURR MUH DURGENS".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 18:40:08 No.32551089 Report

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Nah, is just a pink dragon type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:23:38 No.32551175 Report

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>>32551077
No but it did fail in its goal of nuetering some big offensive meta types in the sense that it pretty much outright replaced and became what it was made to nerf in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:24:32 No.32551180 Report

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>>32551077
not if you're actually good at the game :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:26:27 No.32551191 Report

Quoted By: >>32551228 >>32551237 >>32551246 >>32551593

>>32551087
Dragonfags, Fightingfags, Ghostfags, Darkfags, and Icefags all hate fairy tho.
Dragon/Fighting/Dark for obvious reasons, but Ghost/Icefags hate how Fairy out numbers them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:34:28 No.32551228 Report

Quoted By: >>32551245

>>32551191
>Ghost/Icefags hate how Fairy out numbers them.
I'm a ghostfriend and this makes no sense to me. Being rare adds to why I like them, being less means there's less chances of gamefreak fucking up new ghosts' designs or making too generic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:36:05 No.32551237 Report

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>>32551191
As an icefag I don't bear any negative feelings towards the Fairy type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:38:04 No.32551245 Report

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>>32551228
This, they fucked with palosand already though. The concept is good, but the execution of it was rather bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:38:13 No.32551246 Report

Quoted By: >>32551261

>>32551191
groundfag here, how should i feel about fairies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:40:29 No.32551261 Report

Quoted By: >>32551363

>>32551246
Good about the fact that the day they introduce a ground/fairy it will rape every single steel, dragon, poison, fire, rock, dark and fighting type in the game.

Bonus point if it is an offensive one with good coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:51:57 No.32551363 Report

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>>32551261
And Thousand Arrows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:53:12 No.32551372 Report

Quoted By: >>32551386 >>32551572

fairly really REALLY should have been weak to ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:55:14 No.32551386 Report

Quoted By: >>32552257

>>32551372
Yes please make water types better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:59:50 No.32551405 Report

Quoted By: >>32551803

>>32551087
>Implying the swathes of Dragons with Iron Head and the moveslot to use it give a single fuck about Faries while the Fighting type has all but been eliminated from upper tiers, and Steel is stepping up as a legitimate offensive type
Literally kys. Fairies didn't do anything to dragons, numbnuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:01:48 No.32551426 Report

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>>32551077
Kind of. it doesn't really do its job right and hurts other types more than the type it should

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:10:38 No.32551489 Report

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>>32551077
Yes. While I don't object the idea of new type, the fairy interaction with other types was poor executed and comes from GFs thinking that the dragon's dominance on the meta was due type and not due their High BST, Good Distros, Good Secondary Typing and Large Move pools. I think it needs more weaknesses. Like, why the hell it resist Bug?! It should be weak to Steal, Grass and Poison and be NVE on Grass, Bug and Ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:10:53 No.32551491 Report

Quoted By: >>32551575

>>32551087
I hope you are aware that Faries did nothing to stop dragons. The immunity is nice but every Dragon carries coverage against steel anyway and this also covers faries. Fighting types have been hurt way harder by Faries than Dragons. Dark types are extremly good despite Faries thanks to Knock Off and the buff from Gen 6.

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Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:24:55 No.32551572 Report

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>>32551372
No,it should be weak to flying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:25:44 No.32551575 Report

Quoted By: >>32551634

>>32551491
still stoped outrage win button

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:27:06 No.32551580 Report

Quoted By: >>32551622

No. Fairy-types gave Poison and Steel a distinct offensive niche now (they were previously outclassed offensively by any other type that was super-effective against Grass, and Fighting, respectively).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:29:08 No.32551593 Report

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>>32551191
I'm a Ghostfag and an Icefag and I love Fairies.

GF JUST needs to make faster offensive Ice types with wider movepools. That's how you capitalize on their strengths.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:33:43 No.32551622 Report

Quoted By: >>32551631

>>32551580
>Fairy-types gave Poison and Steel a distinct offensive niche now
Posion and Steel aren't supposed to be offensive ffs. Just like ice being a powerful offensive typing. Giving it a defensive buff does little to no help, knowing all those slow and bulky shitmons will go down regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:34:34 No.32551624 Report

Quoted By: >>32552298 >>32558627

Fairy no longer resists Bug
Ice resists Fairy (fairy moves are light themed and ice reflects light, there)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:36:05 No.32551631 Report

Quoted By: >>32551790

>>32551622
They're not suddenly offensive types you fucking maroon, they just have a particular offensive niche now so they're not entirely one-dimensional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:36:52 No.32551634 Report

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>>32551575
Steel types already filled that niche you moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:46:10 No.32551679 Report

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>remove fairy
>ice now resists dragon
>poison and steel are now super effective against dragon
Are dragons still running rampant all over OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:49:25 No.32551706 Report

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The dumbest shit about Fairies is that their weaknesses come from uncommon offensive typings that dont bring much coverage. Unless you get STAB off them, you aren't using Poison or Steel moves. Just make them weak to Fire or U-turn desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 21:00:14 No.32551790 Report

Quoted By: >>32551839

>>32551631
so what you're saying is that fairy is a type who's only weaknesses include types that aren't offensive

don't you see how this might slightly be OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 21:03:01 No.32551803 Report

Quoted By: >>32551921 >>32552288 >>32552969

>>32551405
Implying Dragon can afford the moveslot just to hit fairies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 21:07:53 No.32551839 Report

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>>32551790
No because fairy a shit typing offensively. Fairy only good on fat shit or with good offensive typing to support it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 21:24:18 No.32551921 Report

Quoted By: >>32555096

>>32551803
>Implying Salamence needs more than D-Dance, Claw/Outrage, and EQ to function, and isn't perfectly content adding Iron Head
>Implying Garchomp isn't fucking famous for only actually needing two moveslots for its Stabs, and otherwise running whatever tickles its fancy
>Implying even fucking Hydreigon is so put out that it has to make that awful choice between Flash Cannon or any of the other flexible coverage moves it runs
Face it. Dragons dominated for years not because the type was OP, but because the individual mons were. Fairy barely phased any dragon worth mentioning. Instead they shat all over Fighting for no good reason, and present a typing far more cancerous than dragons ever were, even at the height of MagDrag, since at least fucking Ice Beam is regularly carried anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 21:38:57 No.32552033 Report

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>>32551077
Nope.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 21:38:57 No.32552034 Report

Quoted By: >>32552175

Threads like this are the exact fucking reason why I don't want to get into competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 22:01:30 No.32552175 Report

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>>32552034
/vp/ is garbage at competitive and likes to over exaggerate. Take everything said in this thread with a huge grain of salt.
There was a thread yesterday where some retard argued Regice is a better special wall than Chansey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 22:03:49 No.32552181 Report

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>>32551077
>Weak and to psychic
>No longer resist bug
>Ghost/and or psychic resist it
>Get some more physical attacks

Fixed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 22:07:54 No.32552204 Report

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Considering most dragons tend to lack iron head flash cannon andwhite poison jab Fairies really did anything to bad to dragon types

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 22:09:41 No.32552224 Report

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Shit meant to say pack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 22:13:34 No.32552257 Report

Quoted By: >>32555246

>>32551386
Ice should have resisted fairy.

In myths winter governed the cycles of the fairfolk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 22:16:18 No.32552288 Report

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>>32551803
Garchomp runs Poison Jab non ironically now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 22:17:33 No.32552298 Report

Quoted By: >>32552954 >>32558627

>>32551624
You are missing the point in wich fairy bug resistance was mostly there to nerf u turn.

Ice should resist fairy, but not because of light headcanon.

In mythos several fairfolk commanded insects to do their bidding, a famous one used insects to drop entire caravans down a cliff so it could eat the bones of the humans and horses.

Winter governed most fairfolk appearances and life cycles, having ice resist them would have been a perfect opportunity to stay on point with mythos and buff ice without buffing water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 00:25:12 No.32552954 Report

Quoted By: >>32552964

>>32552298
>nerf u turn.
wherefore. bug is already shit why take away one of the few things it can do? was u turn a big deal in vgc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 00:27:18 No.32552964 Report

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>>32552954
It was a big deal anywhere. Be thankful it isn't an immunity.

U turn was particularly brutal in 3v3 on the generation that capitalized dragon spam and fighting spam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 00:28:43 No.32552969 Report

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>>32551803
Z-Move dragons actively rape fairies. Need a way around a counter? Just use Z-fairybgone!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 00:29:00 No.32552970 Report

Quoted By: >>32552992

>>32551077
Is this an overgrown clitoris? I knew they were hard to find, but not mythical like fairies of old.

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Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 00:33:13 No.32552992 Report

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>>32552970
>overgrown clitoris
so that's why Lele triggers people

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 00:51:07 No.32553113 Report

Quoted By: >>32553533 >>32555077 >>32558627

>>32551077
It's certainly better than "Light" type. They have sone unique designs and the type effectiveness mostly make sense.

I would remove resistance to Bug though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 02:00:19 No.32553533 Report

Quoted By: >>32555042

>>32553113
>unique designs
>most Fairy-types are pink and/or cute shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 08:03:43 No.32555042 Report

Quoted By: >>32555068

>>32553533
>implying "some unique designs" means that every single one of them is unique

Anon, I know it may be hard for you due to yourintellectual disability, but please improve your reading comprehension.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 08:15:10 No.32555068 Report

Quoted By: >>32555200

>>32555042

Keep moving the goal posts, condescending prick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 08:17:28 No.32555077 Report

Quoted By: >>32555208

>>32553113
Unique is not synonymous with good.

Tapu Lele is unique, nothing really looks like it. But that doesnt stop it from looking like a contrived piece of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 08:26:24 No.32555096 Report

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>>32551921
Fairy should give and receive neutral damage on Fighting and Dark. Psychic should've been buffed instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 08:39:15 No.32555135 Report

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>>32551077
Ya think that top is hiding her pepperoni sized nipples?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 09:02:45 No.32555200 Report

Quoted By: >>32556949

>>32555068
I've never moved anything, you iliterate. Learn how to properly read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 09:05:08 No.32555208 Report

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>>32555077
Of course, I did not claim that uniqueness alone makes good design.

But I like Mimikyu and Dedenne's typing. The latter is nice twist on French equivalent of Tooth Fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 09:10:52 No.32555228 Report

Quoted By: >>32558627

>>32551087
Wrong, I'm a bug fag and I hate fairy too.

No reason it should resist it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 09:15:57 No.32555246 Report

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>>32552257
This could work. My idea is that grass type resists fairy type, and ice type does super effective damage to fairy type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 09:20:22 No.32555259 Report

Quoted By: >>32555267

>fairy
Cool

>introducing 4 top/high tier fairy legendaries and Mimikyu in the same gen
Questionable

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Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 09:22:41 No.32555267 Report

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>>32555259
Just wait until we get a Fairy/Ground with Garchomp-tier min-maxing.

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Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 16:18:43 No.32556906 Report

Quoted By: >>32557069 >>32558627

I have no problems with the type itself other than a few resistances that could be changed (Bug? Why?)
The problem is that so many Fairy types ALSO have fucking god-tier abilities for literally no reason (Azumarill, M-Mawile, Lele, anything with Pixilate, the list goes on and on)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 16:19:26 No.32556909 Report

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>>32551077
No
t. steelfag who hates dragonshitters

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 16:26:50 No.32556949 Report

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>>32555200

(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 16:28:16 No.32556954 Report

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>>32551077
No. They were just poorly executed and became Dragon 2: Electric Boogaloo.

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Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 16:29:38 No.32556959 Report

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Fairy is the best type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 16:34:35 No.32556984 Report

Quoted By: >>32557014

Why are there so many threads about the fairy type lately? Like more than usual.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 16:42:15 No.32557014 Report

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>>32556984
Because M-Metagross was banned so Lele is running rampant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 16:50:38 No.32557058 Report

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>>32551077
yes... rather then nerf outrage they crated a whole new type that did fuck all to stop dragons but ended up deleting fighting types and crippling dark types

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 16:52:52 No.32557069 Report

Quoted By: >>32558099

>>32556906
>The problem is that so many Fairy types ALSO have fucking god-tier abilities for literally no reason (Azumarill, M-Mawile, Lele, anything with Pixilate, the list goes on and on)
Don't most fairies with broken/amazing abilities have average/balanced stats? I don't think Mimikyu would be one of the most used pokemon if it lacked Disguise. Fairies are one of few pokemon that relie on their abilities to be effective. They're like a reverse Dragon somewhat(huge stats but balanced/meh abilities)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 19:36:40 No.32557968 Report

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>>32551077
Tapus were a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 19:57:34 No.32558099 Report

Quoted By: >>32558262

>>32557069
Azumarrill, Whimsicott, Clefable and Gardevoir (Trace) got their abilities before the fairy type came by.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 20:16:20 No.32558217 Report

Quoted By: >>32558257

>>32551087
Don't forget Fightingfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 20:21:25 No.32558257 Report

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>>32558217

Where?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 20:22:17 No.32558262 Report

Quoted By: >>32558559

>>32558099
So they retconned pokemon that were reliant on their abilities to be viable? Thanks for proving my point.

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Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 21:01:05 No.32558538 Report

Quoted By: >>32558697

yeah, except for this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 21:04:08 No.32558559 Report

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>>32558262
All of those gained the fairy type just for flavor.

They had all their tools except for fairy stab already built in.

They were just retyped into fairies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 21:16:24 No.32558627 Report

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>>32551624
>>32552298
>>32553113
>>32555228
>>32556906
You fags still don't get why Fairy resists Bug, do you?
Bugs are usually seen in Japan (specially in various movie franchises) as good guys, just like the Fighting-type, which is why Fairy also resists Fighting.
Also the reason why Fighting and Bug resist each other.
And also why Bug is super-effective against Dark.

If anything, instead of removing Fairy's resistance to Bug, I would remove Fighting's weakness to Fairy. Doesn't make sense being super-effective against one of the hero types and not the other.

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Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 21:26:22 No.32558697 Report

Quoted By: >>32558717 >>32558960

>>32558538

Primarina is literally the only Fairy-type I like.

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Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 21:31:24 No.32558717 Report

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>>32558697
same here, but i also like sylveon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 22:12:58 No.32558960 Report

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>>32558697
Me too, and pic-related. Also Granbull and Togekiss but I liked them before they became fairies. Most of the other fairies I like are not because they're fairies.

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