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Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 18:43:30 No.32576836 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32576845 >>32576905 >>32577125 >>32577174 >>32577213 >>32577233 >>32577468

Why the hell did GF even remove the gems?

Hydreigon @ Dragon gem

252 speed 252 sp.attack 4hp

Draco meteor
Earth power/Dark pulse
U-turn
Fire blast

I miss using my bro to its full potential.

Inb4 z-moves, fuck that, I'd rather use a gem and still have a z-move on another mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 18:45:02 No.32576845 Report

Quoted By: >>32576855

>>32576836
How have you not gotten it yet?

Gems --> Z-Crystals

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 18:45:34 No.32576855 Report

Quoted By: >>32576870 >>32576880 >>32577485 >>32578232

>>32576845
Then why is there still normal gem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 18:47:41 No.32576870 Report

Quoted By: >>32577485

>>32576855
Because GF are retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 18:48:36 No.32576880 Report

Quoted By: >>32576918

>>32576855
Normal Gem is only 1.3x power now, just use Life Orb.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 18:51:34 No.32576905 Report

Quoted By: >>32576929 >>32577215

>>32576836
>i'd rather not use this item that is effectively the same and also lets me use a powered up version of a move with zero(0) draw backs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 18:53:40 No.32576918 Report

Quoted By: >>32577582

>>32576880
In gen 5 gems boosted a move by 50% then got consumed. GF should bring the gems back, but give it a small nerf, 40% increase in power instead of 50% now gems don't overshadowed z-moves and a lot of old mons get back to their prime like flying gem acrobatics archeops. And hydreigon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 18:54:51 No.32576929 Report

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>>32576905
I see nothing wrong with this considering gems are weaker than z-moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 19:29:57 No.32577125 Report

Quoted By: >>32577173 >>32578080

>>32576836
>I miss using my bro to its full potential
>Dragon Gem
Fuck off. Scarf Hydreigon is best Hydreigon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 19:35:55 No.32577173 Report

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>>32577125
>being locked into one move

No fuck you, I'd rather have a nuke then be able to switch out with U-turn to keep momentum.

Garchomp is the superior scarf user anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 19:36:14 No.32577174 Report

Quoted By: >>32577185 >>32577225

>>32576836
Hydreigon's problem is not that they removed gems.
Hydreigon's problem is that they added the fairy type and Hydreigon is 4x weak to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 19:38:19 No.32577185 Report

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>>32577174
You are not wrong. But the gem added a lot to hydreigon's arsenal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 19:40:33 No.32577205 Report

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Hydreigon is still really good in doubles, especially when paired with Megagross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 19:41:29 No.32577213 Report

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>>32576836

Gems were a prototype for Z-Crystals.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 19:41:40 No.32577215 Report

Quoted By: >>32578235

>>32576905
Well, Gems get consumed while Z-Crystals don't, so they're not really the same. They lend themselves to different strategies. Giving a Pokemon a Gem lets you benefit from stuff like Unburden or Acrobatics once the Gem is used, and even let you use moves like Thief and Covet or abilities like Magician and Pickpocket to get a new item later. Meanwhile, Z-Crystals don't let you use those kinds of strategies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 19:42:51 No.32577225 Report

Quoted By: >>32577281 >>32577540

>>32577174

No, Hydreigon's problem is 99 base Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 19:43:13 No.32577233 Report

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>>32576836
They were very prominent in VGC 2011-2013, and maybe Game Freak thought they were unbalanced?
Reducing them to 30% boost and also not releasing them was dumb though. I just want Flying Gem to make Tornadus viable again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 19:49:16 No.32577281 Report

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>>32577225
*98

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 20:18:37 No.32577468 Report

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>>32576836
Gems after Gen 5 got nerfed from 50% to 30%(as strong as Life Orb), so they're no longer as useful on anything that lacks Unburden(Hawlucha would kill for the Flying Gem to be released) or Magician. Z-moves are the new face of one-time nukes now, but 10x more reliable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 20:21:13 No.32577485 Report

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>>32576855
Correct answer is this >>32576870

However, one way or another it still has its uses with fake out, acrobatics and/or unburden

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 20:23:34 No.32577498 Report

Quoted By: >>32577582

>Use a Gem and get a 30% boost to one move

OR

>Use a Life Orb and get a 30% boost to all of your moves, at the cost of a little recoil damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 20:29:21 No.32577540 Report

Quoted By: >>32578099

>>32577225
That and the fact that Fairies exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 20:36:10 No.32577582 Report

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>>32577498
>>32576918
Read this. Also what if I didn't want to waste my LO on this mon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 21:47:46 No.32578007 Report

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I like using Z-Draco Meteor so I effectively get to use two full power Draco Meteors a match without having to switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 22:01:57 No.32578080 Report

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>>32577125
You mean lo and specs hydreigon.

I love using superpower and specs Draco Meteor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 22:05:24 No.32578099 Report

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>>32577540
Most fairies can't switch on specs fireblast or flash cannon.

Hydreigon main weakness is it's sub 100 speed, also teams with Hydreigon love the uturn support it gives, there is nothing better than having a fairy switch in on u turn only to give a free kill to Dugtrio or Mawile(megagross loved this).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 22:07:17 No.32578113 Report

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>remove gems except normal
>adds z crystals

>still takes the time to make a fairy gem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 22:11:22 No.32578139 Report

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>Z-Move
I sure love watching 20 second long cut scenes every battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 22:27:49 No.32578232 Report

Quoted By: >>32578289

>>32576855
Because it's just a normal gem. No special power or anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 22:29:09 No.32578235 Report

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>>32577215
Hand the chaos emerald over kitty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 22:39:22 No.32578289 Report

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>>32578232
You're retarded.

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