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Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 00:32:27 No.32590205 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32590271 >>32590282 >>32590454 >>32591879 >>32593797 >>32595082

Is there a reliable way to counter to Baton Pass?
It's all I find in OU right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 00:35:23 No.32590216 Report

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BUREIBU BAADO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 00:37:27 No.32590230 Report

Quoted By: >>32590559

Haze and hazards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 00:42:54 No.32590253 Report

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red card mimikyu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 00:44:32 No.32590262 Report

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Psyche up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 00:45:54 No.32590271 Report

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>>32590205
Scarf Imposter Ditto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 00:47:08 No.32590282 Report

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>>32590205
I like u turn red card mandibuzz but it doesn't appreciate losing lefties and mandibuzz already got it hard even with lefties.

The only surefire counter to quickpass is to use non choiced wallbreakers that make it almost impossible for BP users to switch in safely.

If you find the quickpass archetype that uses mega Heracross or Medicham it's is indeed quite hard to exploit though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:19:12 No.32590417 Report

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biggest problem with countering BP is that in doing so you're giving up your ability to properly counter regular teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:22:45 No.32590431 Report

Quoted By: >>32590619 >>32591540

I knew this would happen after seeing the chaos on discord

Im gonna vote to keep Baton Pass because the rest of the council and other shitters just piss me off at this point. I swear Haunter left his essence in these people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:23:42 No.32590436 Report

Quoted By: >>32590450 >>32590453 >>32590606

How does baton passless scolipede fare? People seem to imply it's great even without passing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:25:25 No.32590450 Report

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>>32590436
Its just a bug glass cannon with a good physical pool and speed

Reliable but nothing like game changing as a bug sweeper. Good for getting rid of those rare toxic spikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:26:02 No.32590453 Report

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>>32590436
Decent but not OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:26:05 No.32590454 Report

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>>32590205
>lead with Mega Mawile/Alolan Marowak
>Swords Dance on a predicted Protect
>obliterate whatever they BP into

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:26:19 No.32590457 Report

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Reminder that the janitors of this board are pokefuckers and don't give a crap about anything else!
>>32588561

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:27:47 No.32590464 Report

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>>32590457

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:28:53 No.32590470 Report

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>>32590454
I'm using a Marowak in my team so I'll try always leading with it against Baton Pass and SDing turn one. The problem is that they may also Sub though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:47:36 No.32590554 Report

Quoted By: >>32590567 >>32590642 >>32591528

>>32590470
Shadow Bone the first two turns regardless of what they do. They'll usually alternate sub/protect, so you can SD on a protect once you get them into a rhythm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:48:20 No.32590559 Report

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>>32590230
not really

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:49:43 No.32590567 Report

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>>32590554
Alright, sounds good. Thanks for the tip.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Wed 24 May 2017 01:50:21 No.32590571 Report

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Just haze it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:56:55 No.32590606 Report

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>>32590436
I've seen a few SD+waterium Z Scolipedes. Seems decent enough.
Probably high-mid tier UU with an extremely small niche in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 01:59:05 No.32590619 Report

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>>32590431
Are you a council member?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 02:02:34 No.32590634 Report

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Lead with a Feint user + a heavy hitter to break both sash and protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 02:04:17 No.32590642 Report

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>>32590554
Wouldn't a smart player just Sub multiple times?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 04:50:36 No.32591421 Report

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>>32590642
Most Baton Pass players aren't very smart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 04:56:13 No.32591446 Report

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>>32590271
This. Meme with the best or meme with the rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:09:35 No.32591528 Report

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>>32590554
Lol they run druddigon and glare your ass, get rocks up, and set up a sub on whatever with a full para

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:11:12 No.32591535 Report

Quoted By: >>32591564 >>32591587

>>32590619
I get the necessary votes I can each time I dont want something banned. I haven't wanted anything banned since Aegisslash. I've been voting against every baton-pass ban thats happened since the they brought it down to one user only

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:11:59 No.32591540 Report

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>>32590431

They're quickbanning it, no suspect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:15:15 No.32591557 Report

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Can you get hidd

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:16:36 No.32591564 Report

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>>32591535
there's not going to be a vote for this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:17:47 No.32591571 Report

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Pass has trouble with Roar/Whirlwind and Encore users. Their only real answer is Espeon.

You can break Scolipede's sub and then rape it with a priority move before it can pass. Mega Pinsir is good for this. It's a non-choice wallbreaker/sweeper in this kind of battle anyway ,so it's solid answer.

Unaware is seriously good too.

Coincidentally, Quagsire has Unaware and can earn Encore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:17:54 No.32591572 Report

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>>32591564
Thats what makes this ultimately fucked up for me. I can't stop this. Again, I shoulda seen this coming considering how much shit has been going on in the discord since metagrossite was banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:20:32 No.32591587 Report

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>>32591535
I though Aegislash didn't have a proper vote in SM? I only remember 4 proper suspect tests. Megagross, Dugtrio, Phero and Genesect.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:25:15 No.32591616 Report

Quoted By: >>32591628 >>32591660 >>32591673

>>32591587
I meant first time during XY meta. Shits evolving too fast. I've been playing this competitive shit since 2008, I only started actually being relevant enough to vote around Drizzle +
Swift Swim back in Gen 5. I only voted for bans in Gen 6 on Blaziken, Mega mom, Aegisslash, Mawileite, Lucarioite, and Gengarite, 6 baton pass, 3 baton pass.

Haunter was the biggest fucking dick in the entire council and the guy was a shitshow but everytime I see these suspects or this baton-pass issue come up I feel like he somehow made a new account under a different surname and is haunting this shit. Competitive was once balanced, now its full of ban-happy shitters who started around Gen 5 + 6 and ruin everyone's fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:28:24 No.32591628 Report

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>>32591616
Yeah I thought you might have been talking about gen VI, but you said you didn't want anything banned since then. Which is pretty absurd. Only absolute retards believed Hoopa-U had anything to do in gen VI OU and that was after Aegi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:34:07 No.32591660 Report

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>>32591616
go mash yourself zamrock

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:35:52 No.32591672 Report

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>>32591628
Completely forgot about that ban honestly. I wasn't there for it, I was finishing college at the time and needed to focus on that than get the necessary power to vote him out.

Sad thing is I never even played with the fucker.

>>32591660
To be fair I haven't fapped in a week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:36:11 No.32591673 Report

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>>32591616
I recognize that image+filename.
There's screencap where you sperged out when someone made a thread asking how they could make Silvally OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 06:25:52 No.32591879 Report

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>>32590205
Red Card with Sturdy or Disguise.
Unfortunately, Red Card needs you to survive to activate, but it's not a bad hard counter to setup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 17:48:57 No.32593797 Report

Quoted By: >>32593873

>>32590205
Prankster Taunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 18:09:39 No.32593873 Report

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>>32593797
Banettite when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 19:04:31 No.32594138 Report

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Trick Room

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 22:18:41 No.32595082 Report

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>>32590205

Taunt

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