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Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 01:46:31 No.32623980 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32624757 >>32624971 >>32625096 >>32625362

Reminder that all Flygon needs to be worth using over Garchomp is two minuscule adjustments:
>Switch it's offensive stats or buff it's Special Atk stat by 20 points(most likely scenario when GF modifies base stats)
>Allow it to receive Quiver Dance from the Bug pokemon from it's only egg group
No bullshit mega, no broken ability, just slight adjustments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 04:17:15 No.32624757 Report

Quoted By: >>32624798

>>32623980
Or give it a mega and make it dragon bug plus quiver dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 04:24:04 No.32624798 Report

Quoted By: >>32624808 >>32624857

>>32624757
>make it weak to SR/Flying, neutral to Fire, and susceptible to Electric, with a shitty offensive type
fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 04:26:36 No.32624808 Report

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>>32624798
Buff its attack, it does get stone edge and rock slide

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 04:35:50 No.32624857 Report

Quoted By: >>32624949

>>32624798
>weak to SR

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 04:47:22 No.32624949 Report

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>>32624857
yes, a bug/dragon mon is weak to SR, and that is a huge issue. What is your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 04:50:22 No.32624971 Report

Quoted By: >>32624991

>>32623980
Nah, it still wouldn't be worth using over Garchomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 04:53:33 No.32624991 Report

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>>32624971
it wouldn't even share the same role though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 05:15:40 No.32625096 Report

Quoted By: >>32625137 >>32625291

>>32623980
>No bullshit mega, no broken ability, just slight adjustments.
I like that kind of thinking, but can't you do with what's you got?
>using over garchomp
well, statwise it completly falls behind, lets look at other stuff.
>ability
levitate is a safe switch on earthquake. this could provide cover for other pokemons in your team to cover their weaknesess, and team work is important. and safe switch in is great, easpecialy if you have a team with too many ground weaknesses.

>moves it get but garchomp doesn't
>boomburst
powerfull move that bypass sub. great.
>bodysalm
30% prz. could combine with flinc, or simply to let its teamates the speed edge in combat.
>defog
nuff said. safe spikes switch in is a bonus.
>dragon dance
ok i'll stop here. why are there people still using garchomp over this???
...fine ill continue
>focus energy
ooh boy. remember draco meteor?
>powerpunch
this moves seems to be popular so ill include it.
>quick attack
weak, but priority.
>roost
yay
>solarbeam
sure why not.
>superpower
can be helpfull
>tailwind
another teamwork move
>thunder punch
coverage i guess
>u-turn
niiiiiiiiice

now garcomp has its own unique moves only it gets, but its evident flygon is the better team player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 05:23:03 No.32625137 Report

Quoted By: >>32625184

>>32625096
Flygon has too low of a spdef stat with its weakness to ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 05:29:42 No.32625184 Report

Quoted By: >>32625229

>>32625137
while its true most teams carry ice coverage there are planty of pokemons who will switchout to their ice coverage while you are d-dancing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 05:35:02 No.32625229 Report

Quoted By: >>32625243

>>32625184
If you switch out you aren't dragon dancing unless you use baton pass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 05:38:01 No.32625243 Report

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>>32625229
like this
>enemy use mon a
>i use flygon

>enemy switch out to ice coverage mon
>flygon uses d dance

>if i think i can ko, ko
>else, u-turn into something that can withstand ice

if you have fire mons in your team the fire mon can cover for ice while baiting ground moves for flygon safe switch.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 05:44:31 No.32625282 Report

Quoted By: >>32625307 >>32625354

>Game Freak finally gives Flygon a mega
>ground/flying with aerilate
>+20 Atk, +40 SpA, +40 Spe
>Boomderp everything
>quickbanned to ubers
>tfw still unusable

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Mon 29 May 2017 05:45:38 No.32625291 Report

Quoted By: >>32625305

>>32625096
realistically only dragon dance, roost, u-turn, defog, and tailwind. but DD sweeper + defog support are two nice roles that garchomp doesn't really have. tailwind in doubles moreso than singles though garchomp's pretty dominant there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 05:49:38 No.32625305 Report

Quoted By: >>32625335

>>32625291
whats so bad about boomburst?
why focus energy draco meteor isn't viable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 05:50:13 No.32625307 Report

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>>32625282
>playing smogon
Theres your problem

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Mon 29 May 2017 05:56:14 No.32625335 Report

Quoted By: >>32625449

>>32625305
boomburst isn't a bad move, flygon's just a mediocre special attacker. neutral STAB dragon pulse/earth power are almost as strong as boomburst and generally special flygon prefers stuff like flamethrower for coverage. even a specially-oriented dragon like noivern can't really find any room for boomburst in its movepool.

kingdra only does focus energy + draco meteor because of sniper. flygon's pretty weak and has less special attack than kingdra. i guess you could argue it has better coverage + speed but it's gimmick territory. it also has to run scope lens for 100% crits. eh.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 06:00:22 No.32625354 Report

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>>32625282

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 06:02:29 No.32625362 Report

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>>32623980
>a 100/100 offensive Pokemon with subpar bulk cutting it in OU these days
Yeah, no
Mega or bust

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 06:14:50 No.32625427 Report

Quoted By:

>>3262533
fair enough
i still think focusenergy/dracometeor/boomburst/earthpower flygon is peerfect wall breaker but you know what? flygon still has things it can o better than garchomp which is all it needed.

now for the next issue:
how do you tripfag without baiting attention whores or haters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 06:18:29 No.32625449 Report

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>>32625335
fair enough
i still think focusenergy/dracometeor/boomburst/earthpower flygon is peerfect wall breaker but you know what? flygon still has things it can o better than garchomp which is all it needed.

now for the next issue:
how do you tripfag without baiting attention whores or haters?

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