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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 01:20:26 No.32644149 View View Reply Original Report

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>Stats turn to 216-126-126-126-126-85 (805 BST)
>Becomes a permanent form, keeps aura break
>Thousand arrows ignores flying immunity
>Core enforcer ignores fairy immunity
Does it surpass xerneas and yveltal? does it surpass megafug?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 01:37:37 No.32644284 Report

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>>32644149
It's AG probably.
That stat spread nearly makes it better than Chansey at defending. And it could run AV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 01:47:02 No.32644360 Report

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>>32644149
>swinub used powder snow!

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 01:48:38 No.32644375 Report

Quoted By: >>32644595 >>32644731 >>32646548

>>32644149
Make Core Enforcer physical and YOU got a deal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 01:48:39 No.32644376 Report

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>>32644360

>it's critical hit with helping hand

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 02:14:27 No.32644595 Report

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>>32644375
this, core enforcer is worthless because it's special

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 02:33:29 No.32644731 Report

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>>32644149
It's already at A- viability in Ubers. Just becoming a standalone with Aura Break should push it as high as S-rank, on par with Xerneas. Adding in that substantial stat boost makes it Primal Groudon-tier minimum, and if it also gained Recover on top of all that it'd be in Mega Fug's domain for sure.
>Thousand arrows ignores flying immunity
Doesn't it already do that?
>>32644375
>>32644595
Core Enforcer would be fun if it ever got its claws on Oblivion Wing and Geomancy for some reason read: a wacky event distro like the ones Victini kept getting

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 02:37:58 No.32644772 Report

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>>32644731
>Doesn't it already do that?
Well, kinda. It hits neutral on flying/levitate/air balloon first, knocks the target to the ground, THEN starts ignoring the immunity. In other words, it hits skarmory for neutral damage and starts hitting SE afterwards.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 05:10:47 No.32645771 Report

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>>32644149
It surpasses Fug at that point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 05:44:59 No.32645925 Report

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>>32644772
It doesn't matter if it doesn't hit for super effective damage. The fact it hits Flying-type mons already makes it ignore the immunity.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 06:39:57 No.32646140 Report

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>>32644149
Was there ever a legendary that got upgraded in a later gen (not counting megas)?

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 06:41:32 No.32646149 Report

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>>32646140
giratina and kyurem got upgraded alt forms in there game

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 06:43:15 No.32646156 Report

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>>32646149
Yes, i know that, i was asking for later generations, not later games

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 06:49:18 No.32646187 Report

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>>32645925
It needs to hit skarmory, ho-oh, archen, etc SE on the first turn to be truly GoaT amd knock down too

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 06:51:02 No.32646192 Report

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>>32646156
A lot of legendaries eventually got a move or two which really helped them out.
Entei got Sacred Fire in I believe gen IV or V for example.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 07:53:53 No.32646365 Report

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Cool thread.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 09:05:03 No.32646539 Report

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>>32644149
Ahhhhhh instant boner

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 09:07:02 No.32646548 Report

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>>32644375
>Wanting one of the best energy attacks to be physical just so it's viable for your Smogon set.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 09:16:47 No.32646574 Report

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>>32646548
>Wanting the signature move of a physical mon to be special because of autism.

Also, what is Sacred Fire?

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 09:33:03 No.32646632 Report

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805 BST is kinda overkill desu and considering the theoretically given BST then no STAB Special Ice move could OHKO it, probably not even Kyurem W.

720 would be neat imo, just to rival Arceus in some odd symbolic way lol.

But if it was permanent and kept Aura Break it just be solid, though it is kinda shameful that Aura Break doesn't have any similar effects like how Fairy/Dark Aura boosts their own typings with 33%. Aura Break should boost Zygarde's Ground or Dragon type moves and still reverse the effects of Fairy/Dark Aura.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 09:52:21 No.32646727 Report

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>>32646574
>literally only 9 points less
>still has THREE other fucking physical signatures
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 10:09:50 No.32646798 Report

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>>32646727
So I guess you consider Decidueye an effective special or mixed attacker as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 10:54:14 No.32646953 Report

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>>32646798
It would be if it had moves. Zygarde does. And it has three other signature moves.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 11:15:11 No.32647020 Report

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>>32646953
It doesn't have moves though. No special boosting moves. Inferior Ground STAB, inferior coverage, no priority. It simply can't use its special stat effectively compared to its physical stat, in spite of the small numerical difference. And while it might have three other signature moves, none of them are Dragon type

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 11:29:27 No.32647056 Report

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>>32646574
A flaming tackle?

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 11:35:49 No.32647076 Report

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Turning this into /m/

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 11:37:18 No.32647081 Report

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>>32646548
>Xerneas used Geomancy!
>Core Enforcer does fuckall even if it does hit fairies in this new continuity OP creates
It's not about smogon, dumbass

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 11:39:07 No.32647090 Report

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 12:15:21 No.32647184 Report

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If anything it'd be surprising if the current Zygarde in Alola is still incomplete and GF's next revisit with it will again change it. In recent memory this is the most inconsistent legendary regarding lore and in-game mechanics.

10% is temporary due to only 1 core operating it
>Is permanent in the games

Complete form is being maintained by all 5 cores and 95 cells for in-game reasons
>Isn't permanent in the games and can't do what it is supposed to vs its counterparts

It is fine that the 10% forme is permanent, but then the same should be for the Complete form and just keep Aura Break.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 14:13:44 No.32647548 Report

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>>32647056
It isn't. It's always depicted as a flaming sphere or whirl. It certainly isn't a tackle as it doesn't even make contact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 14:26:54 No.32647580 Report

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>>32647081
It wouldn't even be a 2hko if it were physical either. What's your point?

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 18:11:22 No.32648685 Report

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Why can't GF ever deliver?

Is because of all the hype and insanely interesting theories that fans come up with that cucks Game Freak's official vision of things?

Or is it simply that their execution of things just aren't always as smooth as one could hope for?

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 19:15:19 No.32649021 Report

Quoted By: >>32649049

>>32646548
reminder that they changed water shuriken to special just for nigger frog

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 19:20:15 No.32649038 Report

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>>32648685
It's because Zygarde's concept is garbage and they're riding the Pokemon Go/modern casual money wave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 19:21:46 No.32649049 Report

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>>32649021
its almost like its his signature move

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 19:24:18 No.32649066 Report

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>>32644149
Why are Zygardefags so autistic? It's already a good mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 19:31:04 No.32649093 Report

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>>32644149
geomancy moon blast from xerneas = gg

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 19:48:38 No.32649165 Report

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>>32649038
Its concept of being a buildable and literally a creature built of off cells is neat imo and the 2 first form changes are fine, problem is the gimmick with the 100% form. It's just so anticlimactic.

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