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Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 12:16:26 No.32653541 View View Reply Original Report

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>YRW they're gonna nerf Cynthia to hell and back with the Sinnoh remakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 12:50:54 No.32653626 Report

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They won't have to nerf her because with the new EXP share mechanics, mega evolutions and Z-moves you will outlevel all of her mons and have strong options available that she won't have access to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 12:52:57 No.32653629 Report

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>>32653541
They will give her signature mon a megastone to 'nerf it'

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 12:53:21 No.32653631 Report

Quoted By: >>32653679 >>32656583

>>32653541
Her Mega Garchomp will be Bulldoze Dragon Breath 2 empty move slots

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 13:07:45 No.32653679 Report

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>>32653631
Thanks for the laugh anon. You nailed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 13:12:38 No.32653697 Report

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>>32653626
>Mega Darkrai or Mega Moonbitch is a gift Pokémon you are forced to get after the 5th gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 13:13:54 No.32653701 Report

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>>32653541
Why would they need to do that? She's already one of the easiest Champions.

Besides, at least she'll finally be Champion in a good game. That's been a long time coming.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 13:15:23 No.32653707 Report

Quoted By: >>32653743 >>32654350

>>32653541
>Enitre Shinnoh league is nerfed to hell and back
>Little to no coverage in sets, weak teams and AI.
>It's all a breeze, but there's a twist with Cynthia
>Her Garchomp is the only Garchomp in existence to learn Dragon Dance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 13:27:45 No.32653743 Report

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>>32653707

>her garchomp becomes flygon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 13:38:52 No.32653765 Report

Quoted By: >>32654281

>>32653541
Cynthia was easy as fuck

The whole Sinnoh E4 was a joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 13:40:10 No.32653771 Report

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>>32653541
>NPC teams have level up movesets

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 15:44:58 No.32654281 Report

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>>32653765
thanks contrarian chan n_n''

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 15:55:06 No.32654335 Report

Quoted By: >>32654398

>>32654281
He's not being contrarian, though. Cynthia wasn't the EASIEST Champion (that'd be fucking Diantha), but she was still piss easy.
mfw our only competent female Champion was a fucking poo-in-the-loo spazfag with ADHD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 15:57:33 No.32654350 Report

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>>32653707

>due to AI being crappy it only uses it at 10% hp against opponent it already outspeeds, that used ice attack in the same turn

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 16:02:21 No.32654376 Report

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>>32653541
>>YRW

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 16:07:00 No.32654398 Report

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>>32654335
This. I had more trouble with Cyrus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 16:50:58 No.32654594 Report

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>>32653541
Mars will have a level 14 Glameow with only Scratch instead of a level 17 Purugly.
Jupiter will have a level 19 Stunky instead of Skuntank.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 17:20:14 No.32654731 Report

Quoted By: >>32654779 >>32654930 >>32654933 >>32654945 >>32654996 >>32656575

I'll tell you what. Back in my day I didn't grind for SHIT in platinum, and my entire party was above level 60. I swept through the e4 with ease. Now i replay the games, grind for hours, rematch trainers and all i end up with is a level 56 starter and the rest of my team is in the 40's. If cynthia's garchomp didnt somehow miss that one i wouldnt have made it. And guess what? Both times it was fun. Now we'll be forced to use megas and z moves and legendaries and SHIT. anyone who uses any of those three can't battle without handholding. Gen iv and early gen v competitive were the best days of competitive and anyone who disagrees with me is a stupid cunt who uses primal groudons shiny talonflames and mega pokemon who spam z moves and fuck all else because they can't win a normal battle unless they do so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 17:31:09 No.32654779 Report

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>>32654731
sh-shut up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 17:57:53 No.32654930 Report

Quoted By: >>32654977 >>32654983 >>32655160

>>32654731
Gen 5 literally gifting you a Lucky Egg and shoving stupid sexy audinos in your face was the beginning of the end.
Don't even get me started on those 4 Pokemon "elite" 4 teams and sitrus berry less "aces".
The fact that the biggest complains about Sinnoh were hms and battle speed shows how flawless that actual game level design was compared to the other games.
Too bad we'll have butchered remakes of DiaPer instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 17:58:01 No.32654933 Report

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>>32654731
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:01:15 No.32654945 Report

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>>32654731
>anyone who disagrees with me is a stupid cunt
so this is the average sinnohfetus

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:05:12 No.32654964 Report

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>>32654945
The first games i played were gold and silver but go ahead and call me that while you shill X/Y all day

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:07:24 No.32654977 Report

Quoted By: >>32655039

>>32654930
>battle speed
You mean game speed because everything was silky smooth 30fps

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:08:38 No.32654983 Report

Quoted By: >>32654985

>>32654930
>beginning of the end
>gen 5 punishes you for overleveling
>>beginning of the end

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:09:27 No.32654985 Report

Quoted By: >>32654999 >>32655004 >>32655007

>>32654983
>>gen 5 punishes you for overleveling
Huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:11:13 No.32654996 Report

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>>32654731

Agree on everything except z-moves being part of handholding. They're a gimmick at best, not worth the time. Conversion is probably the only broken one and usually if you KO with a damaging one, you would too or come close with a nonboosted version. Might be useful if you want to skip attack's secondary negative effect but this goes into the "gimmick" category.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:11:25 No.32654999 Report

Quoted By: >>32655029

>>32654985
Due to how EXP works in those games, ypu'd get shit EXP if you were overleveled even with a Lucky Egg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:12:16 No.32655004 Report

Quoted By: >>32655029

>>32654985

The experience calculation mechanics that included level differences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:12:39 No.32655007 Report

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>>32654985
The way gen 5 experience works is that you get less if the mon's level is higher than what you're fighting. At the same time if your mon is lower level you get more experience. It's a great way to incentivize the use of a full party and I've consistently found that I'm always 1-2 levels within a gym leader every time I play through BW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:16:04 No.32655029 Report

Quoted By: >>32655043

>>32654999
>>32655004
>>32655007
You already are overleveled.
The punishment by then is not even a slap in the wrist.
Audinos make that "punishment" an even bigger non-issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:17:59 No.32655039 Report

Quoted By: >>32655055

>>32654977
>fps issue in a turn based game
Meanwhile BW took a step back in every way except story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:18:20 No.32655043 Report

Quoted By: >>32655088

>>32655029
>1-2 levels beneath the gym leader
>>overleveled
Guess what faggot, you're not forced to grind Audinos either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:20:28 No.32655055 Report

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>>32655039
Yes, because gen 4 in general are the slowest games in the series. Everything drags on and DPPt make this worse by including (for some stupid fucking reason) places that slow you down even more without ways to remedy the issue. I know people are going to say "dude you just have ADHD" or some shit but that's a terrible excuse when the games are definitively slower and worse because of it especially compared to the previous games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:25:40 No.32655088 Report

Quoted By: >>32655091

>>32655043
>needing to grind when you're 1-2 levels below the final gym leader with only b3 pokemon, no sitrus berry and a dangerous combo of dragon dance + dragon tail
Are you supposed to be defending these half assed games?
Because you're doing as good a job as BW did at making any sort of positive impact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:26:30 No.32655091 Report

Quoted By: >>32655131

>>32655088
I'm saying you don't need to grind, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:31:47 No.32655131 Report

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>>32655091
People were stating BW wasn't a casual mess because "grind punishment" was a thing.
BW did everything wrong gameplay wise.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:37:09 No.32655156 Report

Quoted By: >>32656012

>>32653541
Or she'll be buffed by some future mechanic.

Let's say we get a future game that allows us to mega evolve multiple pokemon in a battle. Suddenly, Cynthia's battle is a double battle. She sends out Garchomp and Lucario. Mega evolves both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:38:32 No.32655160 Report

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>>32654930
Sinnoh's level design is mediocre as fuck with the exception of Mt Coronet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 19:12:34 No.32655312 Report

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>>32653541
>SM was easiest than Diamond and Pearl.
Fuck off i had more problems with Kukui beingn a grown man than Cynthia back in time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 19:50:25 No.32655526 Report

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>>32653541
I mean, Steven had a megagross. Pretty sure Cynthia can still be tough just by having a jacked up mega garchomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 21:24:19 No.32656012 Report

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>>32655156
hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 23:12:42 No.32656575 Report

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>>32654731
>Now we'll be forced
Stopped reading there. You aren't forced to use Megas or Z-moves or legendaries. You don't have to use anything the game gives you. Why can't you retards understand that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 23:14:27 No.32656583 Report

Quoted By: >>32656701

>>32653629
>>32653631
>mega
>implying they won't just give Garchomp a new Z-move

Z-moves were a mistake, enjoy your "hype season" where they don't have any new pokemon or megas to reveal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 23:28:21 No.32656646 Report

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Why would a fight that's already braindead easy need a nerf?

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 23:37:40 No.32656689 Report

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>>32653541
>Your face when as the Ace's signature Pokemon Garchomp is guaranteed to get a buff either in the way of a new Sinnoh Mega, exclusive Z-Move, Cynthia's Garchomp or new moves such as Shore Up, Dragon Dance or Thousand Arrows

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 23:38:52 No.32656701 Report

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>>32656583

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