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ITT: things that got indirectly shafted by buffs

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2017 22:50:40 No.32662830 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32662987

Pic related: Toxic boost is simply inferior to guts, especially with the burn nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2017 22:59:03 No.32662876 Report

Quoted By: >>32662983 >>32663155

>Make 2 shitmon that are supposed to be rivals
>Literally nobody ever uses them because they suck
Why do they keep doing this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2017 23:01:29 No.32662891 Report

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alakazam/gengar and the elemental punches

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2017 23:16:24 No.32662983 Report

Quoted By: >>32663110 >>32663155 >>32665986

>>32662876
>WAAAAH! Why isn't every single pokemon designed with competitive in mind?
Some pokemon just exist to make the pokedex "interesting", ya know.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2017 23:16:56 No.32662987 Report

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>>32662830
>physical special split
>leaf blade is physical
Could be worse, I guess. At least the mega is decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2017 23:35:55 No.32663110 Report

Quoted By: >>32663155 >>32665980

>>32662983
>interesting
>two shitters nobody ever used ingame or competitive is now interesting
>they just have the copy paste lore of mongooses and sneks we already knew
ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2017 23:40:42 No.32663155 Report

Quoted By: >>32663178 >>32663253 >>32663263

>>32662876
>>32662983
>>32663110

>Give Zangoose Tough Claws as a HA, +10 HP
>Give Seviper +25 speed, Dragon Dance, and Corrosion as HA

would this make them at least RU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2017 23:43:15 No.32663178 Report

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>>32663155
Gunk Shot

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2017 23:46:13 No.32663198 Report

Quoted By: >>32665591

Confusion nerf fucked up its only niche. It's like GF can't decide if they like Machamp or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2017 23:56:38 No.32663253 Report

Quoted By: >>32664951

>>32663155
why the fuck does everyone want to give corrosion to frail offensive mons, like how stupid are you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2017 23:58:09 No.32663263 Report

Quoted By: >>32664951

>>32663155
Give Seviper Adaptability or Sheer Force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 06:30:11 No.32664951 Report

Quoted By: >>32665652

>>32663253

Imagine how cancerous that ability would be on someone like Toxapex.

>>32663263

Sheer Force on Seviper would actually be pretty cool, since it would then be able to avoid ever giving Zangoose its Toxic Boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 10:29:58 No.32665591 Report

Quoted By: >>32665602

>>32663198
how so?
does machamp benefit from confusion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 10:33:36 No.32665602 Report

Quoted By: >>32665649

>>32665591
Because Dynamic Punch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 10:58:56 No.32665649 Report

Quoted By: >>32665834

>>32665602
confusion was not nerfed that much

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 10:59:49 No.32665652 Report

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>>32664951
Corrosion or Regenerator would be a Lando-T level mindfuck for the opponent. It'd be irritating for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 12:26:40 No.32665834 Report

Quoted By: >>32665853

>>32665649
When your only selling niche is a 50:50 confusion that becomes like 1/3 chance instead to disrupt and your competition comes along with new abilities, better bulk, and/or greater offenses, you'll be indirectly outplayed

Ironically, the burn nerf makes his Guts set more viable, but why run Guts Machamp when you can run Guts Conkeldurr?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 12:30:58 No.32665853 Report

Quoted By: >>32665861 >>32665867

>>32665834
Because Conkeldurr looks really, really ugly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 12:32:14 No.32665861 Report

Quoted By: >>32665866

>>32665853
What a tired insult. Im one of the biggest Machamp fags aroud but come on. Conkeldurr's role is to smash things and not look pretty

i use them both in my party

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 12:33:43 No.32665866 Report

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>>32665861
There's not many pokes that I'd consider especially ugly, but somehow Conkeldurr presses all the buttons.
I really do not like its design, at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 12:33:47 No.32665867 Report

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>>32665853
>>32665853 #
What a tired insult. Im one of the biggest Machamp fags around but come on. Conkeldurr's role is to smash things and not look pretty

i use them both in my party

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 12:36:32 No.32665880 Report

Quoted By: >>32665885 >>32665920 >>32666757

Idk if it was meant to be a buff or what, but giving Gengar Cursed Body instead of Levitate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 12:39:50 No.32665885 Report

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>>32665880
There's no way it was supposed to be a buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 12:52:03 No.32665920 Report

Quoted By: >>32665979 >>32665994

>>32665880
It's a nerf but Gengar doesn't care all that much. It's such a good mon regardless

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Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 13:03:38 No.32665979 Report

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>>32665920
Sure it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 13:03:44 No.32665980 Report

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>>32663110
>>two shitters nobody ever used ingame
They are completely viable in a play through, autist. Just don't be a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 13:05:14 No.32665986 Report

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>>32662983
them baits are going hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 13:06:46 No.32665994 Report

Quoted By: >>32666027 >>32666757 >>32666763

>>32665920
Sure it does. They took away one the best immunities in the game from him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 13:16:50 No.32666027 Report

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>>32665994
And? It is a nerf, yes, but again, it isn't as huge as people originally believed. Gengar is still perfectly viable in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 16:00:36 No.32666660 Report

Quoted By: >>32666770 >>32666781

I love Zangoose as a Toxic Orb user since he has serviceable Speed and a nice Attack stat. But with low Defenses AND Speed, I fail to see how Seviper could be good at anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 16:21:43 No.32666757 Report

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>>32665880
>>32665994
>Gengar fags complaining about getting shafted

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 16:22:33 No.32666763 Report

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>>32665994
>him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 16:23:29 No.32666770 Report

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>>32666660
>>32666660
easy: it can't and it isn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2017 16:25:46 No.32666781 Report

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>>32666660
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