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/heg/- Hacking and Essentials General

Max !DimbyEO7nQ Tue 06 Jun 2017 20:45:31 No.32695896 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32698210 >>32699093 >>32715000 >>32718806 >>32728476 >>32748478 >>32752496 >>32753707 >>32773337

N's Strange Journey Edition

Discord: https://discord.gg/HfWa4Dg
IRC: irc.rizon.net #romhacking

Rom hacking
>Notable romhacks: http://pastebin.com/GfJ9zhqx
>Making a romhack: http://pastebin.com/fjGZfMzP
>Gen 4-6 hack tools: https://pastebin.com/WvTzcdPR
>Disassemblies: https://github.com/pret/pokered https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal https://github.com/pret/pokeruby

RMXP/Essentials
>Engine: http://pastebin.com/G5PdvaGD
>Wiki: http://pokemonessentials.wikia.com/wiki/Pokémon_Essentials_Wiki
>Tilesets: http://www.mediafire.com/download/sd99pug37y4v4se/Ziddy%27s+DS+Style+Tilesets+RMXP+.rar
>WIP Gen 5 tiles: http://imgur.com/a/CiudS

Places to share fangames:
>http://www.pokecommunity.com/
>http://reliccastle.com/

TOTT: what kind of REFERENCES do you like or at least accept in a fangame?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2017 20:46:35 No.32695915 Report

Quoted By: >>32696185

fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2017 21:04:09 No.32696185 Report

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>>32695915
you fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2017 23:00:15 No.32697974 Report

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bump?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2017 23:14:59 No.32698210 Report

Quoted By: >>32698335 >>32699172 >>32699183 >>32699743 >>32714227

>>32695896
Working on a rom hack of Crystal using disassembly
I'm having trouble adding a script that will add Entei and Raikou "SEEN" entries to the Pokedex. I want it to operate the same way HGSS does where you can see them after releasing them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2017 23:22:57 No.32698335 Report

Quoted By: >>32699172 >>32699743

>>32698210
On top of this question
I'm trying to remove the checks to see if the 3 beasts were captured before receiving the rainbow wing

what scripts do I need to remove?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2017 23:59:08 No.32698885 Report

Quoted By: >>32699050

How do I get the least amount of lag with Essentials? Does removing redundant features in the code help or is it inevitable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 00:07:35 No.32699013 Report

Quoted By: >>32699039

I want to hack/modify Pokemon Platinum to play on a 2ds/3ds/old ds/whatever.

All I really want to do is change some of the Pokemon available or a starter here and there as I please.

I don't want to emulate on a computer because I want to play on any handheld.

Is this possible?

What would I need?

I find it on google because I don't know how to word it well and google isn't very accurate at times.

What would I need?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 00:09:13 No.32699039 Report

Quoted By: >>32699138

>>32699013
If you can edit the rom on a computer I don't see how it wouldn't be possible if there are tools for it. As for playing it on a handheld just get a flashcart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 00:09:32 No.32699050 Report

Quoted By: >>32700869

>>32698885
Avoid map connections wherever you can and use gates. The lag is the worst when you're near a connection because the game is effectively loading multiple maps at once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 00:11:34 No.32699093 Report

Quoted By: >>32704268

>>32695896
How do I run MEH on my Mac? I can't see any .jar files.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 00:15:04 No.32699138 Report

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>>32699039
Flashcarts should be playable on a normal old ds?
Any repercussions to using one on an up to date new 3ds xl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 00:17:41 No.32699172 Report

Quoted By: >>32699743

>>32698210
>>32698335
and another...
how can you make buying Moomoo Milk something that happens more than once

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 00:18:17 No.32699183 Report

Quoted By: >>32699240

>>32698210
Does Gen 2 have any scripts that do that automatically? I'm pretty sure Gen 1 does with things like the Eeveelutions at Bill's House.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 00:24:30 No.32699240 Report

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>>32699183
I thought there'd be a script similar to when you encounter a wild pokemon, it gets an empty dex slot if you don't catch it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 00:59:35 No.32699743 Report

Quoted By: >>32699810 >>32699924 >>32714227

>>32698210
Do this:
writebyte RAIKOU
special SpecialSeenMon
To make it look good, do this first:
refreshscreen $0
pokepic RAIKOU
cry RAIKOU
waitbutton
closepokepic

>>32698335
In TinTower.asm, remove:
special SpecialBeastsCheck
iffalse UnknownScript_0x185050

>>32699172
In Route39Farmhouse.asm, remove:
checkitem MOOMOO_MILK
iftrue UnknownScript_0x9cf08

To avoid asking more questions for every little edit you want to make, try this. Skim engine/scripting.asm and engine/specials.asm to see what functions are already available to you. Read map scripts to see how they work. If you want to change something that happens in Tin Tower, read the scripts for Tin Tower and figure out, line by line, what they're doing and why. If something exists that's similar to what you want to do, try copying it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 01:04:32 No.32699810 Report

Quoted By: >>32699994

>>32699743
First, thank you for all the help! Seriously, I've hit a wall

Second, in regards to the first part, this will add Raikou to the dex in the same way encountering it in the wild would, correct?

Yeah, I've done a lot of what you're referring to. It's how I added in the GS Ball and Pokeflute with complete functionality. But reading a different version of "UnknownScript_-------" every line is mind numbing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 01:12:19 No.32699924 Report

Quoted By: >>32699994

>>32699743
so if I could get your opinion for a second, where do you think the Raikou script would look best within BurnedTowerBF1.asm?

Would it look better as each one leaves, or at the end after they've left

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 01:16:30 No.32699994 Report

Quoted By: >>32700074

>>32699810
Yeah, pokecrystal still has quite a few UnknownScript+UnknownText left to do.

>>32699924
I'd replace the cries that are already there with cry+pokepic+register as seen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 01:23:24 No.32700074 Report

Quoted By: >>32700142 >>32714227

>>32699994
>this is what I got and repeats with Entei. Thoughts?
playmusic MUSIC_NONE
pause 30
appear $3
spriteface $0, $1
pause 5
disappear $6
pause 15
cry RAIKOU
writebyte RAIKOU
special SpecialSeenMon
refreshscreen $0
pokepic RAIKOU
waitbutton
closepokepic
appear $4
spriteface $0, $1
pause 5
disappear $7
pause 15
cry ENTEI

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 01:29:37 No.32700142 Report

Quoted By: >>32700253

>>32700074
Are you using a very old version of pokecrystal? You're using raw hex values instead of the NPC constants defined at the top of the file, like BURNEDTOWERB1F_RAIKOU1. Same goes for $1 instead of DOWN in spriteface.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 01:39:05 No.32700253 Report

Quoted By: >>32700277

>>32700142
it's tppcrystal251pub on GitHub

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 01:39:51 No.32700270 Report

Quoted By: >>32700302

what size tiles (in pixels) do people like to work with the most?
is there a preferred generation of art?
how many of these tiles fit on screen at a time (e.g. 15x20)?
are people opposed to enlarging screen size in a build or is that frowned upon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 01:40:39 No.32700277 Report

Quoted By: >>32700332 >>32700759

>>32700253
Yeah, the main pokecrystal repo has been updated a lot since then. There's more use of named constants and sensible labels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 01:42:25 No.32700302 Report

Quoted By: >>32700392

>>32700270
Are you talking about Essentials? Any ROM hack, whether for GBA, GBC, or NDS, has a fixed screen size and tile size for its hardware.

I like 16x16 tiles, since Gen 2 and 3 use them, and 32x32 is harder to do well given four times the area.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 01:44:33 No.32700332 Report

Quoted By: >>32700759

>>32700277
Does that mean the edits you came up with won't work for me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 01:48:56 No.32700392 Report

Quoted By: >>32700406 >>32701030

>>32700302
I eventually said fuck it, I don't want to make a game, I just like pretty maps. And the options on mac are pitiful. So I'm making myself a very basic mapmaker from scratch in Java. Also I'm relearning Java since I have to do that anyway.
Just throwing out a straw poll survey to see what kinds of preferences people have for different styles to see if I ought to cover a few options or just build something very rudimentary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 01:50:36 No.32700406 Report

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>>32700392
also i was hoping someone here might know the screensizes per release offhand so I wouldn't have to go search for them all. I started with 20 wide by 15 tall and it seems massive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 02:02:57 No.32700579 Report

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alright bitches

who here got the gen 1/gen 2 style custom tilesets

anything please anything ill suck your dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 02:14:56 No.32700759 Report

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>>32700277
>>32700332
Just let me know anon!
Haven't saved the script for the tower yet, so I cant close out without making any changes if it won't work

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 02:22:09 No.32700869 Report

Quoted By: >>32700917

>>32699050
>use gates
That explains DPP. Is that the only thing? Is it the event loader? Or the quality of the sprites?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 02:25:20 No.32700917 Report

Quoted By: >>32701004 >>32709116

>>32700869
Sprite quality shouldn't matter as long as you're not changing the hardcoded sprite scaling, but weirdly enough using the default music files makes the game run noticeably slower, I guess because they're coded in? Replace those with new music or new files whenever you can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 02:31:57 No.32701004 Report

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>>32700917
Thanks a lot. I want to make sure it runs as smooth as possible, so I'm trying my best to optimize this crazy code.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 02:34:33 No.32701030 Report

Quoted By: >>32701242

>>32700392

Cool! Good luck with the project.

Some platform screen sizes in pixels and tiles:
GBC: 160x144 → 10x9
GBA: 240x160 → 15x10
DS: 256x192 → 16x12
RM2K: 320x240 → 20x15 (Anyone remember RM2K?)

I think GBA would be a good compromise. Larger sizes are more fun to play on a PC, but then you have to design larger maps with bigger paths+buildings+features and more local detail. Expanding the visible area on a RBY or GSC map just shows too much stuff at once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 02:49:54 No.32701242 Report

Quoted By: >>32701387

>>32701030
cheers man, just what I was after.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 03:00:53 No.32701387 Report

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>>32701242
I expect you'll be able to parameterize that anyway. Design the engine so you can set a window size and it'll expand the viewable area to compensate. (Resizing the window after it's created would stretch the area, not change it.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 04:15:30 No.32702331 Report

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bump

coraldev

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coraldev Wed 07 Jun 2017 04:23:19 No.32702422 Report

Quoted By: >>32703198 >>32703206

If that anon that mentioned that I should add some flowers to Glint Grove last night is here, does this look better? I added the flower tiles from R/B/Y.

Also, as for the big tree. I was just using it to give you the feeling that you've reached the end. I was going to put the Gym Leader there if I go with the idea of having to go to the forest first. I tried putting on the small island at first, but the way collision works it made it weird. You would either run into the tree from too far out, making it look like there was an invisible wall, or you would go too far in and be standing on some of the leaves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 06:05:14 No.32703198 Report

Quoted By: >>32703306

>>32702422
That is better!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 06:05:57 No.32703206 Report

Quoted By: >>32703306

>>32702422
Holy shit this looks amazing. Which romhack is this?

coraldev

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coraldev Wed 07 Jun 2017 06:24:10 No.32703306 Report

Quoted By: >>32703355 >>32704397

>>32703198
Cool. One more question. Do the blue flowers look better yellow? I kinda think the blue clashes too much with the rest of the palette.

>>32703206
Thanks.
It's called Coral version. I've been working on it for the last few months. No demo yet, but I'm working on one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 06:30:21 No.32703355 Report

Quoted By: >>32703745 >>32704397 >>32715522

>>32703306
It's very pretty dude, keep at it. Can you tell me more about it? What are you planning to do and stuff.

>I kinda think the blue clashes too much with the rest of the palette.
I kind of agree but the blue flowers are much more noticeable and eye-catching.

coraldev

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coraldev Wed 07 Jun 2017 07:42:03 No.32703745 Report

Quoted By: >>32706558

>>32703355
Just trying my hardest to make everything as comfy as possible. Replacing a lot of Pokemon with some newer gen ones that fit the aesthetic. A few Alolan forms (Raichu and Marowak as alt evos and Exeggutor as a gift mon). I'm also going to try to update base stats and learnsets (to an extent) to gen VII.

Here is the world so far. Don't really know what else there is to tell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 09:20:43 No.32704268 Report

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>>32699093
Please respond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 09:49:06 No.32704397 Report

Quoted By: >>32715522

>>32703355
>>32703306
How about a more pastel blue? The blue and pink combination does look good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 10:17:47 No.32704536 Report

Quoted By: >>32715522

Yo coraldev are your alolan forms separate entries in the dex too? I assumed you just added them in like normal?

Also would anyone mind rating my GBC hack dex if i shared it? Which site should i use to share it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:00:19 No.32705878 Report

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Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:33:08 No.32706558 Report

Quoted By: >>32715522

>>32703745

looks amazing so far. is the coral region based off somewhere in the real world?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:54:42 No.32706707 Report

Quoted By: >>32706725 >>32706913 >>32707224

Speaking of maps, is there a requirement that all the world map segments sync up perfectly? Asked the same question on discord and so far the response what I've assumed thus far: it's a standard to reach for but won't break the game if it doesn't match up perfectly.

Would like to see if anyone has a more confident answer here though, don't want to edit the size of maps and then later learn they need to be revamped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:56:39 No.32706725 Report

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>>32706707
Seeing the whole game map like this makes me realize how small it is in reality. Dungeons are really important when you see things from this perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:15:34 No.32706913 Report

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>>32706707
It's pretty much what they said. You can make route 1 twice as long and it won't affect the bike path or anything else on the right.

It would be a bitch if it did matter though. Maps only care about what they are connected to and not what they are not connected to. It's a good idea to make the world map close so things aren't odd for even a player to notice.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:49:57 No.32707218 Report

Quoted By: >>32709059

What was the Fire Red romhack that guy was making? Pic related was one of the maps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:50:18 No.32707224 Report

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>>32706707
absolutely no logistical reason they need to line up. in fact they could overlap, be twice as long as they ought to be (maybe you are creating an interdimensional space area), but the designers have always made sure that they do align for reasons of aesthetics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 18:33:44 No.32708175 Report

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Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 19:57:01 No.32709000 Report

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Don't tell me what to do

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 20:04:26 No.32709059 Report

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>>32707218
That map's pretty bad desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 20:12:02 No.32709116 Report

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>>32700917
>weirdly enough using the default music files makes the game run noticeably slower, I guess because they're coded in?
They're midi. Nowadays computers don't support them by default; they have to first load up special codecs and sound fonts or something, which takes time.

Mp3 is your best bet for audio (or wav, I guess). Oggs are 10 times slower to load than mp3s, which can be noticeable for BGMs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 20:18:17 No.32709159 Report

Quoted By: >>32709228

Does anyone have a working Nova Sun/Umbra Moon version? I've been trying the 1.7 .3DS method, by I get a compression error.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 20:28:43 No.32709228 Report

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>>32709159
install sun/moon as a cia
use the drag and drop method with luma
if you actually buy into retarded TRANNY SOLD US OUT shitposting on /hbg/ then kys

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 20:32:24 No.32709260 Report

Quoted By: >>32709272 >>32709341 >>32720317

I'll preface this that I have no formal programming expertise, I just follow tutorials and reverse engineer whatever piece of technology I can.

I'm using the pokered assembly for my hack, fiddled around with RBMap yesterday and quickly realised that I'd like more blocksets to make more use of the tiles already available. I could find no tutorial on it, the below thread was the closest thing I could find that directly corresponds to it, but the people involved were already programming wizards so they never talked about how they'd go about it.

https://hax.iimarckus.org/topic/1584/

After looking at the .bst files in Hex Editor and comparing the bytes to the blocksets visualised in RBMaps (pic very much related), I'd like to post my theory and then go ahead with it if other anons who are actually competent can verify it.

>each row is one blockset, each four bytes being one tile, and each byte being one tile fragment
>the last line seen in the Hex Editor corresponds to the last coherent blockset in RBMaps (house wall with 8 windows), everything below it isn't written and thus interpreted by RBMaps as a garbled mess
>if I make note of which byte name corresponds to which tile fragment, I can just add more lines to the .bst file and give RBMaps/the game more blocksets to work with
>I can't exceed 256 blocksets, but since that would be literally twice the amount of blocksets already in that .bst file, I should be fine in that regard

y/n?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 20:33:28 No.32709272 Report

Quoted By: >>32709341 >>32720317

>>32709260
cont because text length limit

If the above is correct, I'd still be somewhat concerned with this line by Sawakita (from thread I linked above):

"You'd have to repoint blocksets if you're going to extend them; it shouldn't be too complex if you're using the disassembly, it has already all the tilesets stuff disassembled and labeled. Maybe you don't even need to repoint them if the bank that contains the blockset is completely disassembled and has enough free space to handle the expanded data)."

Am I right about what I've typed above, or are there more things I should be aware of? Would love some reassurement or corrections.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 20:37:09 No.32709309 Report

Quoted By: >>32711093

thoughts on this for an evil team base?
red/green things are gates you need to open with the switches
blue x's are trainers with the x/circle being the boss before the legendary encounter

coraldev

coraldev Wed 07 Jun 2017 20:39:29 No.32709341 Report

Quoted By: >>32710556 >>32720317

>>32709260
>>32709272
I use crowdmap for pokecrystal so things might be different, but what you greentexted seems right.

By "blocksets" I'm assuming you mean the 32x32 blocks. In pokecrystal those are called metatiles. I can't seem to add more than 7F (127) metatiles before they stop working.

As far as I can tell, no repointing is necessary, at least in pokecrystal. Every tileset that I've added new metatiles to seems to work perfectly fine with them.

Again, this is all based on a different disassembly, but it seems similar enough. Just back up your stuff and try things.

Max !DimbyEO7nQ

Max !DimbyEO7nQ Wed 07 Jun 2017 22:38:06 No.32710512 Report

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BUMP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 22:44:03 No.32710556 Report

Quoted By: >>32710563

>>32709341
Here's how you can have 256 metatiles:
https://hax.iimarck.us/topic/5991/

And here's a rough guide to adding more tiles; I've managed to get 240 usable ones.
https://hax.iimarckus.org/topic/7020/
https://hax.iimarckus.org/topic/7080/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 22:45:41 No.32710563 Report

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>>32710556
that last link should have been this:
https://hax.iimarckus.org/topic/7050/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 23:27:41 No.32711093 Report

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>>32709309
>legendary is a part of the main story
dislike this current trope desu

Max !DimbyEO7nQ

Max !DimbyEO7nQ Thu 08 Jun 2017 02:09:08 No.32712744 Report

Quoted By: >>32712921

the traffic is too damn high

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 02:24:57 No.32712921 Report

Quoted By: >>32712931

>>32712744
max if ur gonna tripfag can u at least make music for my hack for zero monetary compensation

Max !DimbyEO7nQ

Max !DimbyEO7nQ Thu 08 Jun 2017 02:26:03 No.32712931 Report

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>>32712921
Already doing it for three other games, so no I can't :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 03:08:21 No.32713396 Report

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I'm playing Pokemon Prism rn, just wondering what other really polished/well done rom hacks there are that are set in a new region for Gen 3/Gen 4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 04:36:02 No.32714227 Report

Quoted By: >>32714610

>>32698210
>>32699743
>>32700074
I still need help with the scripting for the Pokedex
halp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 05:38:15 No.32714610 Report

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>>32714227
would the SetSeenMon script work?
not exactly sure how to implement it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 05:49:48 No.32714686 Report

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Anyone know if I could use
>SpecialSeenMon:
> ld a, [ScriptVar]
> dec a
> call SetSeenMon
> ret
where ScriptVar could be Entei and Raikou

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 06:44:47 No.32715000 Report

Quoted By: >>32715006 >>32715012

>>32695896
/heg/, tell me to quit being a faggot and work on my game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 06:46:35 No.32715006 Report

Quoted By: >>32715032

>>32715000
Why bother, it will never be finished. What a waste of your time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 06:47:22 No.32715012 Report

Quoted By: >>32715032

>>32715000
Your game is probably shit desu
Give up and fap

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 06:51:54 No.32715032 Report

Quoted By: >>32715041

>>32715006
>>32715012
I really appreciate your support.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 06:54:18 No.32715041 Report

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>>32715032
We've always got your back

coraldev

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coraldev Thu 08 Jun 2017 08:46:12 No.32715522 Report

Quoted By: >>32718006 >>32720317

>>32703355
>>32704397
Here it is with pastel blue. Thoughts?

>>32704536
I haven't actually added them in yet, but the plan is for them to be separate entries.

>>32706558
Nah. I have a basic shape for the map and I'm just adding things that feel right.

Also, I have a Soundcloud now. I'm going to start uploading the music on there. In fact, here's the song for Daybreak Village already inserted in game.

https://soundcloud.com/coraldev/daybreak-village

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 12:13:19 No.32716650 Report

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Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 13:43:39 No.32717128 Report

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Bump
Anyone experienced in working with disassembly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:07:22 No.32717783 Report

Quoted By: >>32718160 >>32718193 >>32719059 >>32719646 >>32721307

Reminder the ROM Hacking vs Essentials debate is moot, the true patrician console war is FireRed vs Emerald

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:14:32 No.32717838 Report

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I'm too lazy making a proper release, so I'll just post it here.
Just a small hack for Pokemon Gold and Silver that turns off the music, leaving only the sound effects.
This could be useful for people that stream those games or just want to listen to something else that 8-bit farts.

Here are the IPS patches with fixed checksums:
http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/wcK9q4kz/file.html

Have a nice day!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:37:14 No.32718006 Report

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>>32715522

great job on the soundcloud! i cant wait for the demo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:55:40 No.32718124 Report

Quoted By: >>32718756

I'm too lazy making a proper release so I'll post it here again, because I fucked something up first time.
It's just a small hack for Pokemon Gold and Silver that turns off the music, leaving only the sound effets.
This can be useful for people streaming these games or for those who want to listen to something else that 8-bit farts.

Link for IPS patches with fixed checksums:
http://www19.zippyshare.com/v/IQr1ghxZ/file.html

Have a nice day!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:59:21 No.32718160 Report

Quoted By:

>>32717783
pokeruby wins

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 16:03:44 No.32718193 Report

Quoted By:

>>32717783
>not hacking Ruby

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 17:12:32 No.32718756 Report

Quoted By:

>>32718124
Also, chaning byte at address 0x0A69 to C9 will remove the beep sound while scrolling dialogues, it will still appear in all sorts of menus as it was intended.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 17:17:09 No.32718806 Report

Quoted By: >>32721506

>>32695896
I downloaded pokecrystal to my computer
I got everything set up to build the rom
I made a bunch of changes to the .asm files
I can build the rom, but none of the changes are taking effect
it's still regular crystal

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 17:46:51 No.32719059 Report

Quoted By: >>32719547 >>32719988 >>32757997

>>32717783
Reminder that you're just a butthurt romhackfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 18:36:14 No.32719547 Report

Quoted By: >>32720004

>>32719059
None of those games are finished tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 18:47:01 No.32719646 Report

Quoted By: >>32721237 >>32721307

>>32717783
Fire Red. It can just be hacked to look like Emerald anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 19:25:35 No.32719988 Report

Quoted By:

>>32719059
All those shitty fakemon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 19:26:56 No.32720004 Report

Quoted By: >>32754154

>>32719547
Uranium is finished.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 20:00:23 No.32720317 Report

Quoted By:

>>32709260
>>32709272
>>32709341
Tried making one more blockset/metatile, and then assembled the rom, but was met with this error message in Cygwin:

Section 'bank19' is too big (old size 1520 0 + 1200 > 16384)

Whelp, I'm stumped. Any way to free up space in bank19 or write the new blocksets in a different bank?

>>32715522
I'd say the new color blends in better while still being a nice splash of color, so keep it. Also listened to your Vs Wild Pokemon soundcloud, pic related. Keep up that good work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 21:42:20 No.32721237 Report

Quoted By: >>32721307 >>32721408

>>32719646
But doesn't Emerald have more content than FireRed, like the Frontier? I know you can theoretically port the Frontier to FR but nobody's done it yet, have they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 21:48:49 No.32721307 Report

Quoted By: >>32721328

>>32717783
>>32719646
>>32721237
One word:
pokeruby

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 21:51:16 No.32721328 Report

Quoted By: >>32721417 >>32721900

>>32721307
Pokeruby is too pure for this world but we're talking about FR v. Emerald.
Has anyone done anything cool with pokeruby yet like they have for the Gen 1 and 2 disassemblies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 22:01:16 No.32721408 Report

Quoted By:

>>32721237
That's true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 22:02:17 No.32721417 Report

Quoted By: >>32721430

>>32721328
WHat's pokeruby? Is it just Pokemon Ruby but trying to glorify it for how shit it is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 22:03:47 No.32721430 Report

Quoted By: >>32721608 >>32722060

>>32721417
It's an in-progress disassembly of Ruby (and Sapphire), similar to what Red, Yellow, and Crystal have.
https://github.com/pret/pokeruby

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 22:14:24 No.32721506 Report

Quoted By:

>>32718806
What might be happening:
* You're loading the wrong gbc file in your emulator
* You're running "make crystal" in a different directory than the one you're editing
* The compiler output an error message and din't change the ROM, but you thought it did

What's not happening:
* What you just said

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 22:26:08 No.32721608 Report

Quoted By: >>32721615

>>32721430
>Ruby (and Sapphire)
and emerald, apparently

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 22:27:24 No.32721615 Report

Quoted By:

>>32721608
pokeemerald is its own thing I think, unless they merged. I know a lot of the code for pokeruby can be transferred to pokeemerald because of how much of the ROMs are similar, so working on the former does progress the latter, but I think they're two different githubs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 22:56:33 No.32721900 Report

Quoted By: >>32722826

>>32721328
It's less than half finished, so I don't think anyone's made major hacks with it yet. Although the more ambitious Gen 3 hacks and patches *do* use C and assembly. IDA Disassembler lets you work with small parts of the ROM; pokeruby will disassemble the whole thing and give it meaningful function names and comments and all that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 23:14:44 No.32722060 Report

Quoted By: >>32723155 >>32723968

>>32721430
So what's better about disassembly than whats been worked on for Fire Red, Emerald, and somewhat Ruby in the past? Like the tools and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 00:36:44 No.32722826 Report

Quoted By:

>>32721900
I want to clear this up. I've been hearing it a lot lately.

pokeruby is already completely disassembled. It's not annotated, but everything is there. The code is all there in assembly. The work that's left is translating the assembly to C so that it's easier to make changes. But it's already "complete" in the sense that it's the whole thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 01:23:39 No.32723155 Report

Quoted By: >>32723331

>>32722060
Not much at this time. Once the projects are in their final stages however, it'll make doing hard things a lot easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 01:45:40 No.32723331 Report

Quoted By: >>32723968

>>32723155
Now is Ruby simply the game used to make all Gen 3 games easier to work with or is everything limited to Ruby?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 02:56:30 No.32723848 Report

Quoted By:

I'm thinking about adding in Lucario and Munchlax in that Updated Emerald game I've been making but where would be the most appropriate place for them to be revealed? I'm gonna try and make Gen 3 sprites for them the best I can.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 03:08:34 No.32723968 Report

Quoted By: >>32724001

>>32722060
Basically, disassembly is the reverse-engineered source code. You don't have to worry about shit like hard-coded pointers or managing free space in a complete disassembly.
>>32723331
If/when the other Gen 3 games get disassembled any code made in pokeruby could be easily transported to the other games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 03:11:09 No.32724001 Report

Quoted By: >>32724084

>>32723968
hoenn gen 1/2 style demake when

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 03:20:41 No.32724084 Report

Quoted By:

>>32724001
Never, because it's a ton of work and nobody wants to do it (I can't blame them because I wouldn't want to do something so huge either).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 07:31:37 No.32725746 Report

Quoted By:

Bumpperoni

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 12:44:48 No.32726725 Report

Quoted By: >>32727629

What are some really good rom hacks? I usually end up getting bored and need something fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 15:46:52 No.32727629 Report

Quoted By:

>>32726725
Clover

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 17:43:28 No.32728476 Report

Quoted By: >>32730540

>>32695896
Is their a 802 gen 2 rombase?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 17:49:48 No.32728524 Report

Quoted By: >>32728538

>zero (0) romhacks or fan games have come out of this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 17:50:44 No.32728538 Report

Quoted By: >>32728636

>>32728524
Both the guy who made Gaia and the guy who made Polished Crystal lurk here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 18:04:28 No.32728636 Report

Quoted By:

>>32728538
I think I've seen Mateo (the guy who made Pokémon Christmas and Red++) here as well, though he mostly just made his own thread for the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 22:24:15 No.32730472 Report

Quoted By:

bump

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 22:33:43 No.32730540 Report

Quoted By: >>32731897

http://picosong.com/7bcU/
I haven't worked much on music because this intro is fucking killing me. I've managed to improve it quite a bit since I started the song but it's still not good. Any feedback or suggestions for it?
I think I'm going to upload ASM for the song with and without the intro anyway since vanilla Gen 2's audio engine starts the song over after every battle and that shit would get annoying. If I remember correctly Polished Crystal specifically has the same engine tweak as TPPAC that stores the position of the song during a battle and picks up where it left off so it won't be a problem for that hack, but I should be considerate of anyone who doesn't want to implement that and wants to use the song so the no-intro version makes the best of both worlds.
>>32728476
Gen 2 currently has a limit of 253 Pokémon due to Pokémon indexes being one byte. Expanding that amount to two bytes wouldn't be extremely difficult though it would be tedious; someone's already done it to Red and they say it took them about three weeks to do it, so it's definitely feasible, just nobody's done it. You'd probably want to do the same to moves (similarly feasible but tedious) just so you don't have to make up movesets using only old moves for later-gen Pokémon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jun 2017 23:47:33 No.32731180 Report

Quoted By:

How's it coming so far? I kinda cheated and copied the stance off of it's artwork.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 01:16:47 No.32731897 Report

Quoted By: >>32731920

>>32730540
Ok ill wait

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 01:20:25 No.32731920 Report

Quoted By:

>>32731897
I think everyone who wants it is waiting for someone else to do it, which is why it hasn't gotten done.
Maybe one day I'll do it, but I've been saying that for like two years and haven't even started attempting it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 04:45:45 No.32733227 Report

Quoted By: >>32733231 >>32733256

Using crowdmap, I edited the New Bark Town map to a 17x18 size, changed it all up, and everything's fine. No problem.

But then when I edit Route 29 to be 33x30 and make any edits to the right side (connection still touching the New Bark Town map), then go back to New Bark, I get the popup message in crowdmap "../maps/Route29.blk has changed! Are you sure you want to reload it?" When click "OK", the Route 29 map reverts to the 33x30 map without my edits.

What has gone wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 04:46:47 No.32733231 Report

Quoted By:

>>32733227
pokecrystal btw

coraldev

coraldev Sat 10 Jun 2017 04:50:25 No.32733256 Report

Quoted By: >>32736092

>>32733227
You've increased the size of the map, but the .blk file doesn't have any data for the new area you added. This confuses crowdmap.

The way I fix it is to first change the dimensions of the map to what you want them to be, then go into crowdmap and take any metatile and replace all of the tiles with that one. Like start at the top left and go right then go to the next line. Do it all the way down and don't skip a single tile. Then when you hit save, it fill in all the missing data. Now you can make your edits and they should save correctly.

You could also open the .blk file in a hex editor and add in the missing tiles that way, but I'm not sure if that would work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 09:04:27 No.32734268 Report

Quoted By:

bump

coraldev

coraldev Sat 10 Jun 2017 09:22:26 No.32734328 Report

Quoted By: >>32734396 >>32735909 >>32748598

So I'm trying to make it so that the low health sound only plays a few times and then stops like in the newer games. I looked at the code for Polished Crystal as I know that hack does the same thing. I copied the code into my "audio/engine.asm" file, and it works. Mostly.

Now I'm getting a problem that when the sound stops playing, Channel 1 doesn't start playing the song's notes again. After my Pokemon faints, the music changes back to normal. The same thing happens when I run away. Any idea what's causing the issue?

Here's a video of the problem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p73R2dZ2DpU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 09:48:18 No.32734396 Report

Quoted By: >>32748598

>>32734328
If you test Polished Crystal, you'll see it has the same glitch. :P
https://github.com/roukaour/polishedcrystal/issues/13
If you fix it, please post your solution.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 15:04:59 No.32735850 Report

Quoted By: >>32735909 >>32736096

Bumping thread with a revamp of Route 1. Never been a fan of mandatory patches of grass, particularly since you'd assume the main roads between towns would be fairly easy to travel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 15:16:22 No.32735909 Report

Quoted By:

>>32734328
Try looking at the script for TPP Crystal

>>32735850
You'd also assume that you wouldn't be sent out in the world all on your own to catch monsters and fight at 10 years old. But you'd be wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 15:39:43 No.32736092 Report

Quoted By: >>32736125

>>32733256
M'kay, so that worked within crowdmap.

Now, when I go back to cygwin make try to "make" the new ROM, I get this:

>rgbasm -o maps.o maps.asm
>error: Section 'Map Blockdata 1' is too big (old size 16089 + 360 > 16384)
>make: *** [Makefile:52: maps.o] Error 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 15:40:21 No.32736096 Report

Quoted By:

>>32735850
I understand where you're coming from, but mandatory patches of grass are kind of a necessary evil, if you don't want to get the feeling that you're grinding.

coraldev

coraldev Sat 10 Jun 2017 15:44:07 No.32736125 Report

Quoted By:

>>32736092
Google my dude.

http://creativiii.com/guide-pokecrystal-disassembly/
Look in the bugfixes section at the bottom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 17:25:11 No.32736777 Report

Quoted By: >>32736910

Which is your favorite fangame or romhack aesthetic? Gen 1, 2, 3 ,4 or 5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 17:45:15 No.32736910 Report

Quoted By: >>32737969

>>32736777
Gen 4 and 5 have barely any ROM hacks, and what does exist mostly upgrades the existing region+plot instead of making their own.

Gen 3 encompasses more than one aesthetic. Some people use Emerald's music and tiles, some use FireRed's, some import DPPt's, some make their own of varying quality...

Gen 1 and Gen 2 have similar options available for graphics and music. The only real difference is color. GSC itself used RBY tiles and music remixes for its Kanto region, and Red++ uses GSC's Johto tiles for Kanto. Prism borrows tiles from other video games, but they mostly fit with the Pokémon originals because the color limits guide design more than in Gen 3.

I'd have to say Gen 2 is my favorite, especially when people take the time to use custom palettes for unique maps (like the Ice Path did in Crystal). But I'm biased, Gen 2 was my first.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 19:48:14 No.32737822 Report

Quoted By: >>32737914

done

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 19:59:24 No.32737914 Report

Quoted By:

>>32737822
Pretty good!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jun 2017 20:10:48 No.32737969 Report

Quoted By:

>>32736910
I feel like Gen 1 and 2 have the most charm. It excels in it's simplicity and while Gen 3 is technically more advanced and has more colors and detail I feel like that works against it as custom stuff, or stuff imported from other games, is much more noticeable and out of place as most of the time they aren't as high quality. It's harder to discern such things with Gen 1 an 2 stuff as they are of technically lower quality if you get what I'm trying to say here.

Max !DimbyEO7nQ

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Max !DimbyEO7nQ Sat 10 Jun 2017 21:57:50 No.32738742 Report

Quoted By: >>32749722

https://soundcloud.com/dimbus-maximus/silph-co-executives-theme

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 01:29:46 No.32740505 Report

Quoted By: >>32740557 >>32740570 >>32740657 >>32744192 >>32747036 >>32752005

Port city based on the North Korean city of Wonsan. It would be the first city a player entered (Starter Town > First Route > This).

Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 01:37:46 No.32740557 Report

Quoted By:

>>32740505
bretty gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 01:40:25 No.32740570 Report

Quoted By:

>>32740505
id probably try to make 1 wide alleys for a regular door entrance into the two city buildings instead of the pink squares, but it looks very nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 01:52:28 No.32740657 Report

Quoted By:

>>32740505
That's really fucking nice man. Like the buildings placed more vertical over horizontal.

Max !DimbyEO7nQ

Max !DimbyEO7nQ Sun 11 Jun 2017 05:16:58 No.32742111 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 13:47:48 No.32744025 Report

Quoted By:

Bump bump bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 14:16:58 No.32744192 Report

Quoted By:

>>32740505
The buildings on the rocks are sick, I'd be peeved I couldn't get into them though. Or that little patch of water above the rightmost house, as well as the house with a fence right in front of it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 18:04:11 No.32745512 Report

Quoted By: >>32746001 >>32746058

Realised today that there are multiple completely white tilefragments that I can fill up with something else and make all the white spaces in the game use the null one. However, filling in the bottom right corner doesn't work and only results in a glitched mess, so I presume I actually need to tell the game how many graphics that file contains for it to use.

tl:dr how to I expand tilesets

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 19:15:38 No.32746001 Report

Quoted By: >>32746058 >>32746262

>>32745512
The ".t2" at the end of the filename tells the compiler not to include the last 2 tiles. Also, I believe that the bottom-right tile (or maybe the top-left) has to be blank, because it gets used as the space in text boxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 19:24:35 No.32746058 Report

Quoted By: >>32746262 >>32747112

>>32745512
>>32746001
Also, you can expand the tileset:
https://hax.iimarckus.org/topic/7020/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 19:57:51 No.32746262 Report

Quoted By:

>>32746001
That makes total sense, but when I remove the "t2." from the filename the assembler doesn't even realise that a change has been made, and even if I change a different file and reassemble the game it still doesn't include the last two tiles.

Pic related is what I see when I open the corresponding 2bpp file, the last row is for the 5D offset, and if the last two tiles had been included they'd been the 5E and 5F offsets respectively. I'd type in the last two rows myself if I knew what hex values to add, but I see no rhyme or reason for the other tiles already in that file.

>>32746058
Read this one before, will give it a second try once my current problem is resolved since so far I haven't even gone into the area of the garbage letter data mentioned in that thread.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 21:38:21 No.32747036 Report

Quoted By: >>32749564 >>32749659

>>32740505
Hashed out half of the exterior Route 2. Obviously, the tileset will be edited to accommodate for the iffy stuff. This is just to test placement.

Thoughts? The only thing the irks me with this (other than the grassy bits on the mountain tiles) is that the white pathways that lead to the two cave entrances seem a bit empty to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 21:49:49 No.32747112 Report

Quoted By:

>>32746058
is this possible for gen 3?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 23:05:54 No.32747490 Report

Quoted By: >>32752433 >>32752814

Does he look enough like a rich asshole from Kalos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 01:21:51 No.32748478 Report

Quoted By: >>32748553

>>32695896
Does anyone know how difficult it would be to replace a pokemon in Crystal using disassembly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 01:31:40 No.32748553 Report

Quoted By:

>>32748478
Just replacing one is easy, it was one of the first things I did when I figured out how to use it. You just need to replace their data and sprites, which is all organized neatly.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 01:36:13 No.32748598 Report

Quoted By: >>32749387

>>32734328
>>32734396
Polished Crystal and TPP Crystal have the same glitch, but Prism does not. You can just use their PlayDanger routine.

coraldev

coraldev Mon 12 Jun 2017 03:32:35 No.32749387 Report

Quoted By: >>32749473

>>32748598
Still doesn't work. Copied directly from Prism's source code and check it line by line with that picture you posted. Same results in game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 03:45:05 No.32749473 Report

Quoted By:

>>32749387
Actually TPPCrystal does work...not sure why people are saying it's glitched
Download and try the latest version yourself
I'm currently in the middle of a playthrough and can confirm that the low health sounds do stop and regular battle music continues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 03:56:16 No.32749564 Report

Quoted By:

>>32747036
Could use some more water. The building in the nook is cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 04:10:02 No.32749659 Report

Quoted By: >>32750091

>>32747036
Place some of the small headbutt trees along some of the paths
Use smaller separate stones along the paths to break things up
Add small patches of green tiles to the white walk ways
Put water in inaccessible areas on top of the rocks
Flowers in the areas that already have grass
Even adding water next to some trees or grass
Stones/Trees in the way that would have a hidden item
More ledges to jump down
Trees on top of the mountains

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 04:21:15 No.32749722 Report

Quoted By:

>>32738742
Sounds like something I'd hear from Aether, nice track.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 04:37:01 No.32749793 Report

Quoted By: >>32749804

I'm looking for a very difficult rom hack. What I mean is, I feel like in recent games, you take your starter and just run from Gym to Gym, no need to grind levels, as any "tough" battles are just due to you having bad RNG in IV's and you gain a level in the battle so you go back and win easily. I want the opposite, I want to grind and work and even then struggle in the fights. Gen III or later is preferred, but if it's FR/LG or HG/SS that's good too, as I mostly just want updated graphics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 04:39:13 No.32749804 Report

Quoted By:

>>32749793
Vega.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 04:49:03 No.32749845 Report

Quoted By: >>32749936 >>32749953 >>32753568 >>32757214

Has anyone figured out how to implement these yet?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 05:15:30 No.32749936 Report

Quoted By: >>32758162

>>32749845
Pic related are emimonserrate's RBY party sprites that eevee added to the game

https://github.com/eevee/pokered/tree/new-icons

Probably unrelated to those sprites you posted, but I can only assume the mechanics involved are similar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 05:19:22 No.32749953 Report

Quoted By:

>>32749845
didn't someone have a script for this?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 05:54:15 No.32750091 Report

Quoted By: >>32750108 >>32752689

>>32749659
I'll look into all this. Thanks.

Anyway, here's the western half of the route. Just finished it about 15 minutes ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 05:58:13 No.32750108 Report

Quoted By:

>>32750091
break up the flower patches
doesn't need to be wild grass or flowers only
add some smaller trees throughout, maybe some rocks

it's just too many flowers and way too much grass
use patches
add some ledges
add some berry trees

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 12:20:50 No.32751184 Report

Quoted By:

Bimp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 14:50:33 No.32752005 Report

Quoted By:

>>32740505

needs giant billboards of kim jong un, and collectible kim jong un action figures hidden in every location

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 16:04:14 No.32752433 Report

Quoted By:

>>32747490
No opinions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 16:18:12 No.32752496 Report

Quoted By: >>32752655

>>32695896
I added functionality back to the PokeFlute in Pokemon Crystal, but it never actually plays music
I tried looking at the scripts for Pokemon Red disassembly but it looks completely different

Any help?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 16:51:53 No.32752655 Report

Quoted By:

>>32752496
None of the code in items/item_effects.asm:PokeFlute is for playing music. You have to add that. And there are two "dummy" jumps that probably need some code filled in to complete the item's effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 16:57:48 No.32752689 Report

Quoted By:

>>32750091
MY EYES

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 17:05:05 No.32752735 Report

Quoted By: >>32752788 >>32753051

>Liquid Crystal
>Be warned, the plot takes a pretty hard beating, so avoid if you demand faithfulness to the originals.

How hard are we talking here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 17:11:33 No.32752788 Report

Quoted By:

>>32752735
obnoxious self insert

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 17:15:21 No.32752814 Report

Quoted By: >>32752875

>>32747490
His butt seems to be big
Also, maybe some shading on the belt?
Besides maybe the haircut, nothing seems rich about him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 17:24:10 No.32752875 Report

Quoted By: >>32752949

>>32752814
Thanks. For the butt, do you mean the hips or is it because of the pocket?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 17:35:54 No.32752949 Report

Quoted By: >>32752990

>>32752875
hips, look up some trainer sprites from the game for reference (esp. the Rich boy class)
Also, the belt is massive

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 17:42:07 No.32752990 Report

Quoted By:

>>32752949
Welp, I actually just modified a BW sprite. I'll definitely touch on the belt though. Thank you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 17:49:27 No.32753051 Report

Quoted By:

>>32752735
Two self insert rivals and two self insert OC villains take increasing prominence into the plot until they're the only thing going on in Kanto, and after Victory Road, Silver decides he wants to be completely evil and takes over Team Rocket as its leader, completely undoing literally everything the character was about in the original game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 18:17:29 No.32753274 Report

Quoted By: >>32754879

Can you guys make a list from 1 to 5 about your favourite rom hacks? I actually played a lot of them,so i would like to know your point of view and maybe find a rom hack that i haven't played yet. (must be a completed one ofc). Thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 18:58:09 No.32753568 Report

Quoted By:

>>32749845
Someone used them but I don't remember who
It had a special script

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 19:22:12 No.32753707 Report

Quoted By: >>32755288 >>32755439 >>32755500 >>32755636

>>32695896
how do you view a 2bpp file to see what it looks like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 20:22:09 No.32754154 Report

Quoted By:

>>32720004
It's also bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 22:01:11 No.32754879 Report

Quoted By:

>>32753274
>1 to 5
>must be completed

>implying 5 (good) completed ROM hacks exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 22:50:33 No.32755288 Report

Quoted By: >>32755439 >>32755500

>>32753707
I don't think you can view a 2bpp file
can you convert them to png?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 23:09:56 No.32755439 Report

Quoted By: >>32755485

>>32753707
>>32755288
Yes, you can.

>Convert them to PNG:
python gfx.py png gfx/[insert file name here].2bpp.lz
>Edit the PNG
>Convert back to compressed 2bpp:
python gfx.py 2bpp gfx/whatever.png
python gfx.py lz whatever.2bpp
>Recompile and test.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 23:16:13 No.32755485 Report

Quoted By: >>32755517

>>32755439
in cygwin??

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 23:18:00 No.32755500 Report

Quoted By: >>32755838

>>32753707
>>32755288
Yes, you can.

>Convert them to PNG:
python gfx.py png gfx/[insert file name here].2bpp.lz
>Edit the PNG
>Convert back to compressed 2bpp:
python gfx.py 2bpp gfx/[insert file name here].png
python gfx.py lz [insert file name here].2bpp
>Recompile and test.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 23:19:52 No.32755517 Report

Quoted By:

>>32755485
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 23:21:28 No.32755523 Report

Quoted By: >>32755532

Any decent romhacks that are actually fucking finished?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 23:23:20 No.32755532 Report

Quoted By:

>>32755523
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 23:23:50 No.32755535 Report

Quoted By:

haha http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen7randombattle-589972371

coraldev

coraldev Mon 12 Jun 2017 23:37:13 No.32755636 Report

Quoted By:

>>32753707
You can use YY-CHR.exe to view 2bpp files and see the tiles they contain.

https://www.romhacking.net/utilities/119/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 23:59:40 No.32755794 Report

Quoted By:

Looking for a 649/721/802 rom hack that also has shinies (if possible) and abilities up to gen 6 or higher in them. Preferably a gen 2/3 rom hack.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO kris_orig.7x7.png, 418B, 56x56

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 00:07:45 No.32755838 Report

Quoted By: >>32756123 >>32756131 >>32756342 >>32756549 >>32760673

>>32755500
I've converted all "azure" pics to the original Kris pics from Pokemon Crystal
The sprites work, the trainer card works, the back sprite works...
but when you battle against Kris, it's still the Azure trainer sprite.

ideas?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO IMG_8660.jpg, 37KiB, 640x647

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 00:52:46 No.32756123 Report

Quoted By: >>32756131 >>32756342 >>32760673 >>32763361

>>32755838
It works here...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 00:53:50 No.32756131 Report

Quoted By: >>32756342 >>32760673 >>32763361

>>32755838
>>32756123
But not here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 01:24:25 No.32756342 Report

Quoted By:

>>32755838
>>32756123
>>32756131
bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 02:11:51 No.32756549 Report

Quoted By: >>32756625 >>32756817 >>32756942

>>32755838
gfx/trainers/kris_orig.7x7.2bpp.lz

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 02:24:32 No.32756625 Report

Quoted By: >>32756942

>>32756549
I replaced that one
I replaced every occurrence of "Azure" with Kris

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 02:56:30 No.32756817 Report

Quoted By: >>32756942

>>32756549
I can convert every 2bpp file to a png and can't find that azure anywhere
I'm not sure what to replace

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 03:18:27 No.32756942 Report

Quoted By: >>32757173

>>32756549
>>32756625
>>32756817
Just went through and deleted each 2bpp and lz file, then converted each png back to 2bpp/lz and still no luck

I don't understand why it's just this one trainer sprite

what am I missing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 04:15:53 No.32757173 Report

Quoted By: >>32757193

>>32756942
Did you get both the Azure sprite in gfx/trainers and the sprite in gfx/misc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 04:22:26 No.32757193 Report

Quoted By:

>>32757173
Yes, that was the only way to get the back sprite replaced.
Back sprite works as well

And I actually replaced Azure on the title screen with Kris as well which is functional

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 04:26:06 No.32757214 Report

Quoted By:

>>32749845
found this but it makes no sense to me
I have the sprites if someone has the script

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 07:29:42 No.32757997 Report

Quoted By: >>32758008

>>32719059
What are some good essentials games for me to play? Is there a flowchart?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 07:33:33 No.32758008 Report

Quoted By:

>>32757997
>Good
>Essentials
Pick one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 08:29:23 No.32758162 Report

Quoted By:

>>32749936
>that missingno. party sprite
This makes me smile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 13:29:57 No.32759017 Report

Quoted By:

bump

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 15:44:51 No.32759783 Report

Quoted By:

https://soundcloud.com/dimbus-maximus/victory-silph-co-employee

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 15:45:33 No.32759787 Report

Quoted By: >>32759816

Guys, I'm making a Pokémon-like game heavily inspired by the first entries of the series. What kind of thing would you like to have in a Pokémon game? Any ideas that you'd like to see implemented but that are Impossible in an engine like essentials?

Thanks!

Max !DimbyEO7nQ

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Max !DimbyEO7nQ Tue 13 Jun 2017 15:46:04 No.32759793 Report

Quoted By:

https://soundcloud.com/dimbus-maximus/victory-silph-co-president

Max !DimbyEO7nQ

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Max !DimbyEO7nQ Tue 13 Jun 2017 15:49:00 No.32759816 Report

Quoted By: >>32760811 >>32761353 >>32761517

>>32759787
With Essentials, nothing is impossible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 17:07:29 No.32760673 Report

Quoted By:

>>32755838
>>32756123
>>32756131
is it possible that sprite is under a different reference?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 17:18:16 No.32760811 Report

Quoted By: >>32760841

>>32759816
Is it possible to have a stable 60 fps?

Max !DimbyEO7nQ

Max !DimbyEO7nQ Tue 13 Jun 2017 17:22:06 No.32760841 Report

Quoted By:

>>32760811
Actually yes, it's a completely editable program in and out on a PC
but, you'd be outta yoor gott damn mind if you think I'd work so hard to update such an old system to that degree

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 18:10:48 No.32761353 Report

Quoted By:

>>32759816
It was a bad choice of words. I'll remake the question: what do you wish a new (but retro) Pokémon game had?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 18:24:45 No.32761517 Report

Quoted By: >>32761588 >>32761655 >>32770459

>>32759816
How about actually completing a game?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 18:30:53 No.32761588 Report

Quoted By:

>>32761517

Max !DimbyEO7nQ

Max !DimbyEO7nQ Tue 13 Jun 2017 18:39:15 No.32761655 Report

Quoted By:

>>32761517
I'll reply to this post when my game is finished

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 18:55:46 No.32761813 Report

Quoted By:

Anyone have any seedy, dilapidated-looking city maps? I need inspiration.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 19:09:03 No.32761948 Report

Quoted By: >>32762004

Does anyone know how to get a save like this? links would be nice.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 19:14:57 No.32762004 Report

Quoted By: >>32766952

>>32761948
>37 sold

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 21:06:54 No.32763081 Report

Quoted By:

bamp

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 21:39:54 No.32763361 Report

Quoted By:

>>32756123
>>32756131
anyone have any ideas?
it doesn't make sense that this trainer sprite keeps appearing

I've changed the back sprite, over world sprite, trainer card sprite, even title screen sprite

It's just this battle picture that won't change

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jun 2017 21:52:59 No.32763443 Report

Quoted By: >>32765781 >>32766955

How would I best go about designing a pyramid-like building with GSC graphics/tiles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 01:08:33 No.32765150 Report

Quoted By:

bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 02:20:58 No.32765781 Report

Quoted By:

>>32763443
Carefully.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 05:05:40 No.32766952 Report

Quoted By:

>>32762004
normies r dum

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 05:05:50 No.32766955 Report

Quoted By: >>32771223

>>32763443
Multiple floors, shrink the dimensions of each floor slightly as you go up until you hit the top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 12:12:41 No.32768555 Report

Quoted By:

Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 12:18:46 No.32768581 Report

Quoted By:

Any good GBA rom hack that has been completed that you guys recom. play?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 15:25:01 No.32769474 Report

Quoted By:

Romhackfags the most desperate shitposters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 16:57:39 No.32770017 Report

Quoted By:

Any gen 4 or 5 romhack with gen 6 and 7 Pokemon added? I want to play old games emulated on phone but with newer Pokemon. Yes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 17:49:29 No.32770413 Report

Quoted By: >>32774614

I did some pokecrystal crowdmap editing on routes 1, 2, 29, and 30, and then tried to "make" the file. I got this whenever I shifted files (Route 30 or otherwise) between BlockDatas to deal with the issue of one being "too big":

>$ make
>rgbasm -o maps.o maps.asm
>rgblink -n pokecrystal.sym -m pokecrystal.map -o pokecrystal.gbc wram.o main.o lib/mobile/main.o home.o audio.o maps.o engine/events.o engine/credits.o data/egg_moves.o data/evos_attacks.o data/pokedex/entries.o misc/crystal_misc.o text/common_text.o gfx/pics.o
>error: Unknown symbol 'Route_30_BlockData'
>make: *** [Makefile:59: pokecrystal.gbc] Error 1

I checked all 4 BlockData_#.asm files (4th I added myself) for this mistyped "Route_30_BlockData", but it's not in any of those. Any ideas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 17:53:48 No.32770459 Report

Quoted By:

>>32761517
Where the hell do you think you are?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 19:37:29 No.32771223 Report

Quoted By: >>32771249 >>32775144

>>32766955
How does this look?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 19:41:35 No.32771249 Report

Quoted By:

>>32771223
Oh, I assumed you were talking about the interior.
Honestly, that doesn't look very good, but even if it did you wouldn't see most of the building in Gen 2 with its 160x144 screen. I think you wouldn't even see the second layer of the building unless you can walk around.
You might have to try doing custom tiles, I'm not sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 20:36:51 No.32771663 Report

Quoted By:

What makes a good plot/story in a hack/fan game? What makes for a bad one?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jun 2017 20:43:13 No.32771717 Report

Quoted By:

I'm trying to edit the placements of signs, warp points, and people in any given map in the pokered assemble. I've localised the place to edit that info (pokered/data/mabObjects) but I can't make sense of the coordinates for these things.

Take signs in Pallet town for instance:

db $4 ; signs
db $d, $d, $4 ; PalletTownText4
db $9, $7, $5 ; PalletTownText5
db $5, $3, $6 ; PalletTownText6
db $5, $b, $7 ; PalletTownText7

That last byte refers to the actual text content for the sign, but what decides the values for the first two?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 00:35:22 No.32773294 Report

Quoted By:

bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 00:43:06 No.32773337 Report

Quoted By:

>>32695896
hey /heg/ I wanted to give gaia a go but my file isn't working correctly.
>used 1635 - Pokemon Fire Red (U)(Squirrels)
>tried both of the patching applications included
>get error message both times but it can still patch and run
>get white fucked up voltorb instead of kabuto for professor intro
>can get starter fine
>get to second town and I suddenly can't interact with anything
I'm no computer whiz so it might be something dumb I'm doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 01:24:41 No.32773615 Report

Quoted By: >>32773750

>>>/v/380527308
>>>/v/380529203

What the heck was this guy talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 01:41:39 No.32773750 Report

Quoted By:

>>32773615
An "engine" that will never come to fruition. Shit like this is never finished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 03:36:51 No.32774497 Report

Quoted By:

Is there a changelog for the pokemon meme sapphire hack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 03:53:03 No.32774614 Report

Quoted By:

>>32770413
Anyone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 05:21:35 No.32775144 Report

Quoted By:

>>32771223
christ what is this...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:41:01 No.32775490 Report

Quoted By:

Not sure if this is the place to ask, but how does Graveler evolve in Liquid Crystal, and Slowpoke evolves into Slowking via sunstone I heard? Not 100% sure.

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