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>>32705760
>>32705758

Come on, this is what give personality to the character, I don't know why pokemon doesn't do it. just look at good games like Fire Emblem or Rune Factory it helps a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 13:48:47 No.32705788 Report

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>>32705743
Make the portraits smaller and it's good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 13:49:28 No.32705795 Report

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>>32705783
>look at good games
>Fire Emblem
Kek?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 13:52:55 No.32705819 Report

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>>32705795
It's better than Pokemon at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 13:55:38 No.32705841 Report

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>>32705743
I want to kiss every single part of lana's body

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 13:56:43 No.32705850 Report

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>>32705819
>shallow dating sims are better than a full-fledged monster taming RPG
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 13:58:47 No.32705863 Report

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>>32705783
>ugly generic anime portraits
>personality
>thinks Fire Emblem is good

Pottery

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:01:14 No.32705883 Report

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>>32705819
Yeah sure...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:01:30 No.32705884 Report

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>>32705850
>monster taming
You just capture them and make them fight, taming my ass.

>shallow dating sims
That's not the focus of those games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:02:35 No.32705893 Report

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>>32705884
Yeah, the focus is that stellar plot ;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:03:38 No.32705904 Report

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>>32705863
>complaining about a Japanese game having anime portraits.

Dude what?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:04:33 No.32705909 Report

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>>32705850
>FE is a dating sim
Spot the Awakening/Fates newfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:04:41 No.32705911 Report

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>>32705904
Don't worry. He's retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:05:16 No.32705915 Report

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>>32705783
A picture of the character gives personality to the character? That seems really shallow and one-dimensional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:07:24 No.32705931 Report

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>>32705743
>projecting

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:07:29 No.32705933 Report

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>>32705893
The plot is here!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:09:47 No.32705955 Report

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>>32705743
yeah it's not a bad idea if they're gonna go more story based in the future. just put the portrait in the bottom left and fit it better. good idea OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:11:29 No.32705970 Report

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>>32705933
Wow, I wish Pokemon plot was a godly written as this!

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:22:35 No.32706066 Report

Quoted By: >>32706497

Fire Emblem 3DS are an aberration.
The GBA ones are a gamer's treat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 14:57:53 No.32706309 Report

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>>32705743
I remember they did this briefly in BW and i thought they'd do it even more going forward
I guess they're all in on these shitty lifeless models though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:03:02 No.32706343 Report

Quoted By: >>32706438

>>32705904
>Japanese
>sushi
>geisha
>edo theatre
>anything related to the country and culture of Japan and its people
>b-but it HAS to be anime!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:12:05 No.32706405 Report

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>>32705743
No, pokemon is about the pocket monster, not the anime waifus.
Also the problem with the ''soulless character's interaction'' came from the MC not reacting like everyone else did, all of the other characters have more than enough expression to make them look like regular human beings, portraits like those are totally unnecessary and out of place

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:17:20 No.32706438 Report

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>>32706343

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:19:31 No.32706458 Report

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>>32705743
If you actually think this is an improvement then you are the cancer that is killing both Pokemon and Fire Emblem. The soulless character interactions stem from the shitty writing and the protagonist's vacant expression throughout the game. Putting a character portrait is just a way of distracting players from the fact that the developers couldn't be bothered to do proper character animations in 3D.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:22:14 No.32706478 Report

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>>32705909
>literally playing FE3 right now
OK
>tfw your brother attacks you like a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:23:26 No.32706484 Report

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>>32705909
Modern FE practically is though

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:24:28 No.32706497 Report

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>>32706066
>implying Conquest didn't have god-tier maps
the door is that way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:26:11 No.32706505 Report

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>>32705743
Literally all they have to do is bite off Zelda with a bunch of NPC monosyllabic sound takes and grunts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:30:15 No.32706537 Report

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>>32706478
He looks like that one kid from yu-gi-oh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:32:05 No.32706552 Report

Quoted By: >>32706594 >>32706631 >>32706788

my god you dumbshits really will defend any aspect of this sorry excuse for a video game to the death

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:34:17 No.32706566 Report

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>>32706484
Echoes doesn't have any of it though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:38:39 No.32706594 Report

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>>32706552
Indeed, it's kinda creepy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:39:06 No.32706599 Report

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>>32705783
because it's a terrible fucking idea that should stay in equally terrible hentai games

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:43:02 No.32706619 Report

Quoted By: >>32706656 >>32706678

I didn't know PMD was a hentai dating sim

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:44:14 No.32706631 Report

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>>32706552
>idiot plasters some random fan art over an ingame image
>it looks stupid
>whole thread thinks it's stupid
>not only that but portraits have no place in fucking Pokemon
>"waaaah stop defending the game"

I disliked SM and what the retarded OP did and suggested improves on it in no way whatsoever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:44:19 No.32706632 Report

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>>32706566
That's because it was a remake and they couldn't force a MU into the game because the story focused around two separate protagonists. Expect FE Switch to return to the usual waifu-pandering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:45:13 No.32706641 Report

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>>32705743
Why weaboos turn everything into dating simulator?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:45:27 No.32706644 Report

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>>32705743
this would've been a good idea 3 generations ago

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:47:55 No.32706656 Report

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>>32706619
Or Conquest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:49:43 No.32706671 Report

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>>32705783
You know what works better than portraits? Actually using the model to convey fucking body language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:51:08 No.32706678 Report

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>>32706619
>>32706656
Yeah, but why use my brain when I can just generalise everything like a fucking retard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:51:08 No.32706679 Report

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>>32705743

>soulless

SM has the most personality filled characters

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:52:13 No.32706689 Report

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>>32705909
>>32706484
I never understood this "complaint".
Do the people who say this get their information from /v/ or something?

Because there's no dating sim elements to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:53:28 No.32706702 Report

Quoted By: >>32706729 >>32706745

>>32706689
There's no point in arguing semantics, you know what people mean by dating sim, don't play dumb.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:53:56 No.32706704 Report

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>>32705783
>good games
>FIRE FUCKING EMBLEM

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:55:06 No.32706712 Report

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What is best girl Kris upset about /vp/ ?

Is it the return to glorious 240p?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:55:15 No.32706714 Report

Quoted By: >>32706964

>>32706631
>not only that but portraits have no place in fucking Pokemon

Portraits give a great help in a character development something that could be helpful in Lillie's story, it also did well in Conquest, even worked fine in B/W you have no point.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:56:51 No.32706727 Report

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What makes OP's pic bad is that Sun and Moon's camera angles don't have portraits in mind. Along with that, the portrait used in the image gets in the way of what's going on behind it.
Other games that use portraits, if done correctly, still have the characters express themselves through models, but have the portraits show the character's facial expression. Here, the character speaking is slumped forward, talking to the player character, which shows his body language, and the upset portrait shows his face.
Even the side series Pokemon games sometimes make use of portraits, like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. That game also does a decent job at it by making them small, so they can be placed in areas that don't detract from what's going on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:57:01 No.32706729 Report

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>>32706702
>you know what people mean by dating sim

They mean not a dating sim?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:59:10 No.32706745 Report

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>>32706702
>you know what people mean by dating sim
Dating sim usually refers to multiple choices leading to a certain outcome. Like Persona's social links.
In FE it's just boosts to paired units with a cutscene you can't influence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 15:59:48 No.32706753 Report

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>>32706678
So you just hate progressing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:03:34 No.32706788 Report

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>>32706552
>>32706594

Your idea is stupid, get over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:06:45 No.32706822 Report

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>>32706497
>C-C-C-Conquest is good lads I swear.
Tired of this fucking meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:07:05 No.32706827 Report

Quoted By: >>32706902

>>32706753
Portraits aren't progression it's a lazy alternative to real expression using the models already available. After all, they don't exactly have to animate anything for those scenes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:10:10 No.32706862 Report

Quoted By: >>32706902

ITT: Mainlinefags who have never played a good Pokemon game before.
Pick up Explorers of Sky already

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:11:16 No.32706874 Report

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>>32706822
It is good. It needs a sequel so it can be even better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:13:16 No.32706891 Report

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>>32706822
You will keep hearing it until newfags play an actual good FE like Thracia. But that'll never happen, so they get to pose as oldfags while sucking Camilla's futa dick.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:14:32 No.32706902 Report

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>>32706862
It's like they only play Pokemon.

>>32706827
I prefer those "lazy" portraits than robotic moves with a pixelated mess anytime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:15:04 No.32706909 Report

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GF can make portraits in a breath since their art departament is a god tier one, but instead of that they try with models. Well for once the aren't being lazy right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:15:05 No.32706910 Report

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OH MY GOD
YOU CAN USE BOTH
there is no reason why they coudln't have portraits and models working together
as the models are now they are shit and there is not much they can do with them
adding portraits would allow for a wider range of expression and allow them to use the models in other ways than staring right at the screen so you can see one of their 3 exaggerated faces and a goofy 1 second looped dance when they're happy

>>32706727
nails it and you morons just completely ignore it

christ this board is full of actual, retarded children

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:18:14 No.32706941 Report

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>>32705743
Portraits are the epitome of laziness and unprofessionalism, and they should be avoided at all costs if you want to be taken seriously as a video game developer.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:20:08 No.32706950 Report

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>>32706941

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:22:06 No.32706964 Report

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>>32706714
>even worked fine in B/W you have no point.
>weren't the portraits in BW just the characters blinking showing no emotion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:22:53 No.32706970 Report

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>using Fire Emblem-esque portraits for cutscenes

At least give the PC expressions, then we can talk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:24:44 No.32706986 Report

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>>32706950
Not him but the portraits are a pretty lazy alternative, i can't imagine the rage if the next entry in the series uses it, buu GF is the laziest game developer buu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:27:15 No.32707008 Report

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I don't give a shit if Pokemon has portraits or not but you'd have to be a serious drone if you're telling me Gen VI/VII's animations aren't lazy at all. Every single person in SM reuses the same cheerful hopping animation and exaggerated talking animations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:27:45 No.32707011 Report

Quoted By: >>32707064

>>32706438
Hang yourself weeb
>>32705743
OR YOU COULD JUST FUCKING ADD ACTUAL RPG MECHANICS YOU STUPID FUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:33:48 No.32707064 Report

Quoted By: >>32707074

>>32707011
Do yo know Pokemon is Japanese? senpai?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2017 16:34:52 No.32707074 Report

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>>32707064
Be mindful, he's one of the special needs children from /co/ that thinks Pokémon is a cartoon.

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