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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 13:41:37 No.32717115 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32717141 >>32717346 >>32717380

>> http://www.smogon.com/articles/shafted-by-design

Why does GameFreak hate the best type so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 13:42:32 No.32717119 Report

Quoted By: >>32717212

Next gen better have a busted as fuck Ice pseudo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 13:45:41 No.32717141 Report

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>>32717115
>Why does GameFreak hate the best type so much.
because, surprise! they don't care
or they don't know what they're doing
really doesn't matter at this point, it's honestly a miracle the game is even playable

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 13:55:01 No.32717212 Report

Quoted By: >>32717223 >>32717266 >>32717410

>>32717119
>ice pseudo

Ice/Fire arctic volcano pokemon
110/105/130/120/80/55
Ability: Flame Body, Ice Body
Resistances: 2x grass, 2x bug, 4x ice
Weaknesses: 2x fight, 2x water, 2x ground, 4x rock
Boosting moves: Curse

Don't tell me this isn't EXACTLY how GF would do an ice pseudo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 13:55:20 No.32717216 Report

Quoted By: >>32717266

Dragon-types were supposed to be the strongest type in the game, so Ice-types (i.e. the only type with a SE STAB move against them aside from Dragon-types themselves) were always locked inside a late-game dungeon so it would be awkward to fit them into your team at that point in the game. They also made the deliberately shitty so that they wouldn't overtake Dragons as the strongest type in the game. Then when gen 6 came out and they wanted to nerf Dragon-types, they decided to create a brand-new type rather than buffing Ice-types. because a new type would make the games more marketable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 13:56:36 No.32717223 Report

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>>32717212
forgot the fairy resist there, but it still doesn't salvage anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:02:22 No.32717266 Report

Quoted By: >>32717282

>>32717212
I could totally see it happen. But with a Ice/Flying, Ice/Rock or Ice/Grass typing.

>>32717216
Reading that article made me sad. Game Freak needs to fire the one responsible for the Ice type hate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:04:35 No.32717282 Report

Quoted By: >>32717353 >>32717415

>>32717266
Went for Ice/Fire because it fits a few criteria for an ice pseudo
it's a unique type, it's a very good stab type that's just begging to be on something with a speed of over 100, on the other hand it's a terrible defensive typing with no option for recovery moves and it takes 50% from stealth rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:13:05 No.32717346 Report

Quoted By: >>32717363 >>32717377

>>32717115
Why does Smogon spend so much time and effort writing such articles? Nothing in there hasn't been said before and you really could summarize it in one or two paragraphs.

Or just in one sentence: "GameFreak is incompetent and doesn't care about stats, usefulness or movepools".

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:14:35 No.32717353 Report

Quoted By: >>32717382

>>32717282
We gotta sacrifice Masuda
We need something like this for the years we icefags have been ignored and disrespected.

Ice/Ground
Tough Claws/Adaptability
90/140/100/50/95/125
And a base 100 bp physical signature move, access Earthquake and Sword Dance.

You know I'm right. We deserve this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:15:59 No.32717363 Report

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>>32717346
Because it's fun. It's nice to read. People like doing things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:17:47 No.32717377 Report

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>>32717346
It's a great article and offers a lot of insight.

Can't call anyone incompetent without proof, and articles like that provide proof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:18:10 No.32717380 Report

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>>32717115
Make Ice resist OP Fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:18:35 No.32717382 Report

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>>32717353

Give it High Horsepower, that's more powerful than Earthquake after Tough Claws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:18:45 No.32717384 Report

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> inexplicably frozen valleys (here's looking at Kalos Route 17, which is on the same latitude as the region's desert)

Isn't Route 17 in the mountains, though? Perhaps they should've put more effort into making the height difference more obvious but latitude isn't the only thing that determines climate. Hawaii has snow-tipped mountains where you can freeze your nuts off after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:19:51 No.32717396 Report

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They need to make an ice-type snow leopard with fur coat as it's ability. Give it high attack and speed, a good movepool including ice shard, and maybe a second typing if there is a decent one that would fit thematically. I feel like that could at least be decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:21:02 No.32717405 Report

Quoted By: >>32717462

Hail also needs to be better.

Increase defense of ice types by 50% in hail or something. SOMETHING.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:21:25 No.32717410 Report

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>>32717212
>4x rock
IT'S SHIT

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:22:03 No.32717415 Report

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>>32717282
If only Mountaineer was an actual ability.......or pic related an actual pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:27:29 No.32717462 Report

Quoted By: >>32717481

>>32717405

Ice types take half damage from neutral hits under hail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:30:00 No.32717481 Report

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>>32717462
Now that would be interesting! I like it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:31:41 No.32717505 Report

Quoted By: >>32717524 >>32717676 >>32717747

>ice/fighting abominable snowman never.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:33:01 No.32717524 Report

Quoted By: >>32717676

>>32717505
Such a great offensive typing.

If only we could get some speed on out Ice types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:43:29 No.32717600 Report

Quoted By: >>32717637

>Refrigeration Blast
>special
>75 base damage
>75% accuracy
>75% chance to cause freeze
>75% chance to freeze user if not an Ice type

boom I just fixed the Ice type

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:48:54 No.32717637 Report

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>>32717600
Knowing GameFreak it would be a signature move from a single stage pokemon with the stats of Sunkern.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:54:46 No.32717676 Report

Quoted By: >>32717709

>>32717524
>>32717505
72/108/76/98/62/77
does not learn icicle crash

does this sound about right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:58:44 No.32717709 Report

Quoted By: >>32717716

>>32717676
Typical GameFreak.

Hey, let's give Ground types a 100 BP 100% accurate move! Be sure to make it a TM so that everyone can learn it.

Hey what about ice types?

Give them an 85BP move with only 90% accuracy. Be sure to keep the distribution low, we wouldn't want to disrupt competitive play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 14:59:48 No.32717716 Report

Quoted By: >>32717769

>>32717709
while we're at it, better power gem distribution when?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:03:27 No.32717747 Report

Quoted By: >>32717760 >>32717777

>>32717505

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:04:28 No.32717760 Report

Quoted By: >>32717777

>>32717747
thats a crab/boxer. it is in no way a snowman, abominable or otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:05:53 No.32717769 Report

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>>32717716
When we get a Ice type variant of Earthquake.

AS A TM, only learn able by true ice types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:06:15 No.32717777 Report

Quoted By: >>32717794

>>32717747
>>32717760
it's an abomination alright, that's for sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:09:04 No.32717794 Report

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>>32717777
I like Crabominable, but those quads have spoken.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:13:59 No.32717832 Report

Quoted By: >>32717885 >>32718029

*saves ice types*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:20:42 No.32717885 Report

Quoted By: >>32717902

>>32717832
So that's why GF hasn't announced them? Gotta continue crap on Ice pokemon for a few more years.

Watch them buff Delibird with a +10 bst boost and call it a day for the next 10 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:23:22 No.32717902 Report

Quoted By: >>32717922

>>32717885
and while they're at it make scald SE against ice types

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:26:21 No.32717922 Report

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>>32717902
Wouldn't even come as a surprise anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2017 15:40:39 No.32718029 Report

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>>32717832
RIP Ice-types ;-;7

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