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Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:40:38 No.32747356 View View Reply Original Report

How would you rescue the rock dogs from PU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:41:45 No.32747359 Report

Quoted By: >>32753738

>>32747356
Special z move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:42:01 No.32747361 Report

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>>32747356
Euthanize them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:42:41 No.32747363 Report

Quoted By: >>32747408

>>32747356

Boost their BST to 525 to put them on par with Lcuario and the Eeveelutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:44:20 No.32747370 Report

Quoted By: >>32747384

They learn Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:45:41 No.32747379 Report

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>>32747356
I wouldn't. Midnight is a edgy furry verlis piece of shit and Midday is just fucking boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:46:02 No.32747381 Report

Quoted By: >>32747394

Give Midnight 112 Speed and 125 attack. Give Midday 132 Speed, no idea for other 20 points maybe in HP?

Also replace Keen Eye with Sturdy for both

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:46:20 No.32747384 Report

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>>32747370
Also This

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:48:06 No.32747393 Report

Quoted By: >>32748669 >>32749019

>>32747356
Nightroc gets Accelrock, Dynamicpunch, Inferno, Zap Cannon, some other shit

Dayroc gets an exclusive hold item that allows it to evolve into Nightroc on level up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:48:20 No.32747394 Report

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>>32747381
Too much anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:49:01 No.32747398 Report

Quoted By: >>32747403

>>32747356
> Sun gets intimidate
> Moon gets sandstorm
> Accelerock gets +20PP
> Moon form gets its own signature move, stone 50pp, 50% chance to boost defense
>both get a 2nd type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:50:04 No.32747403 Report

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>>32747398
oh and I forgot
>both learn earthquake and/or close combat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:51:43 No.32747408 Report

Quoted By: >>32753627

>>32747363
Do this with every final evo below 500 BST then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:51:52 No.32747410 Report

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>Z move
>EQ
>Super power

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:53:05 No.32747414 Report

Quoted By: >>32747421

Make everything else in the game worse to compensate. Anything over 500 BST has its stats chopped in half.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:53:57 No.32747421 Report

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>>32747414
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 22:58:21 No.32747441 Report

Quoted By: >>32747452 >>32750390

I remember I got Sun/Moon and played it blind.

Caught an Adamant Rockruff very early on and evolved it into Midnight Lycanroc.

Boy, did that thing suck major ass. I kept it throughout my entire playthrough, and I don't think it ever did anything of note for me. I knew it was going to end up in NU or worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 23:00:23 No.32747452 Report

Quoted By: >>32747517 >>32747592

>>32747441
Day form has a chance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 23:09:27 No.32747517 Report

Quoted By: >>32747539

>>32747452
-in low tier NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 23:12:00 No.32747539 Report

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>>32747517
Thats why they need EQ and Super power and maybe z move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 23:19:24 No.32747592 Report

Quoted By: >>32748023

>>32747452
I used Day form in my ingame run and it was one of the things that made me regret getting Sun instead of Moon

There were other reasons i regretted getting the game period but after playing with Midday I definitely knew I made a mistake

>>32747356
Rockruff:
>Type becomes Normal/Rock
>Learns Quick Attack

Midday Lycanroc
>Type is Normal/Rock
>Now learns Extreme Speed, Ice Fang and Earthquake
>Change its Hidden Ability from Steadfast to Sheer Force

Midnight Lycanroc
>Type is Dark/Rock
>Now learns Knock Off, Ice Fang, and Superpower
>Change its Normal Ability from Keen Eye (redundant with No Guard) to Tough Claws

done

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Jun 2017 23:24:18 No.32747632 Report

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Day form can have sturdy as an ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 00:24:44 No.32748023 Report

Quoted By: >>32750147

>>32747592
>Making both dogs even more susceptible to Fighting
OP said save

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 00:29:05 No.32748047 Report

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>>32747356
Nightrock gets Dynamic Punch and a rock type pursuit
Dayrock gets Technician and Ground coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 00:29:40 No.32748052 Report

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>>32747356
Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 00:31:30 No.32748067 Report

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Moves for starters
Really that's what I'd do for most alola mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 00:33:06 No.32748080 Report

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Give Midday Intimidate, boost attack to 120. Have it learn Drill Run, Flare Blitz, and U-Turn.

Give Midnight Close Combat, Dynamic Punch, Accelerock, U-Turn and Close Combat. Also give it 120 attack and +10 in both defenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 00:38:23 No.32748125 Report

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Not a competitive player and night was fun ingame for me/battle tree.

Gonna echo everyone else though. Give these things some freaking coverage moves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 00:43:42 No.32748162 Report

Quoted By: >>32748176

High jump kick
Head Smash
Drill run
Knock-off

that reminds me. Does no guard bypass flying immunities/levitate when using a ground attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 00:45:19 No.32748176 Report

Quoted By: >>32748207

>>32748162
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 00:48:45 No.32748207 Report

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>>32748176
Figured. Wouldn't want to outclass moldbreaker I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 00:50:44 No.32748228 Report

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Rock Head + Head Smash

Superpower to hit steels

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 01:22:22 No.32748484 Report

Quoted By: >>32749761 >>32749785

>>32747356
>night dogo

add ghost type and tough claws and boost atk to 125

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 01:31:04 No.32748548 Report

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>>32747356
DAYROC
Rock/Ground, learns EQ and Spikes and shit. A shitty defensive type combination doesn't matter very much when you're fast and can hit hard. See: Weavile if it actually had an ability.
Also, I really want a fast Rock/Ground-type.
NIGHTROC
Rock/Fighting, learns Close Combat and Dynamic Punch and Mach Punch and shit.
BOTH
Coverage, like Wild Charge and Play Rough. Keen Eye changed to Adaptability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 01:37:54 No.32748612 Report

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>>32747356
You don't. They are both to shitty to be in play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 01:41:51 No.32748644 Report

Quoted By: >>32748666

>/vp/ always does too much
Fucking autistic cunts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 01:45:10 No.32748666 Report

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>>32748644

This.

The thread was "rescue them from PU," not "make them OU." It wouldn't take a drastic change to simply get them out of PU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 01:45:54 No.32748669 Report

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>>32747393
Fuck off fur fag dayroc is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 01:56:32 No.32748731 Report

Quoted By: >>32750160

>>32747356
Make a fast fire flying type pokemon super meta and make him the most optimal counter to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 02:04:24 No.32748792 Report

Quoted By: >>32749006

>>32747356
>EQ
>Day gets fangs and strong jaw
>Night punches and iron fist
>Get bumped to a 525 bst
>Midday 75/115/80/65/70/120
>Midnight 80/120/95/65/80/80

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 02:39:15 No.32749006 Report

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>>32748792
>Night
>take ingaway 5 points of health
>adding 10 useless special attack for both
>taking 2 points of speed
>adding too much defenses over speed
>day is now 40 points faster instead of 30

What is wrong with you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 02:40:43 No.32749019 Report

Quoted By: >>32749045

>>32747393
Why would you give the shittier version those moves? Dayroc deserves the good moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 02:43:46 No.32749045 Report

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>>32749019
Reasonably the werewolf with semi human hands would obviously have access to punching attacks compared to the regular wolf. Either way day may fuck up night learning any punches since they share a species sadly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 02:49:27 No.32749081 Report

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>>32747356
Give EQ and ice fang to both

for day dog give extreme speed and sturdy, change speed to 120

night dog gets 90 health and 85 in def and sp. def, along with spikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 04:29:50 No.32749761 Report

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>>32748484
>ghost type
NOW we're talking, much better than giving it Dark and a double Fighting weakness

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 04:35:05 No.32749785 Report

Quoted By: >>32750154

>>32748484
>add ghost type
I was about to disagree, but compared to grass owl this actually makes so much more sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 06:12:37 No.32750147 Report

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>>32748023
>Fighting being prevalent anymore since the rise of Fairies and fall of Darks
Unique/underused typings always come before competitive use

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 06:15:44 No.32750154 Report

Quoted By: >>32750253

>>32749785
Don't Hawaiian myths believe owls are spirits, or at least guardians of the deceased's' souls?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 06:16:34 No.32750157 Report

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>>32747356
remove pokemon bank

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 06:16:57 No.32750160 Report

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>>32748731
>him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 06:16:58 No.32750161 Report

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>>32747356
Midnight gets one solid use of No Guard with STAB Stone Edge... Other than that, what? Rock Climb? ffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 06:18:44 No.32750173 Report

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>>32747356
Just give them better moves that suit their play styles and increase their stats so that they don't die in 1 hit from Peck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 06:21:16 No.32750187 Report

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>Wolf pokemon doesn't learn any bone based move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 06:34:27 No.32750253 Report

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>>32750154
Yeah but none of the flavor text even references any of that, Dartrix never hinted towards anything ghostly-related, and Decidueye's design barely communicates its ghost-typing. It's like they weren't even trying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 07:12:10 No.32750390 Report

Quoted By: >>32750401

>>32747441
Moon actually pulled its weight.

I chained for a HA one and it was glorious, heck I was using cheese shit like Tsareena and Magnezone and night rock was still pulling its weight.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 07:17:11 No.32750401 Report

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>>32750390
Big booty Judy and the Police are NOT bunk, pal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 07:35:44 No.32750446 Report

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>>32747356
Turn Lycanroc-Midday into Aerodactyl without the flying-type
Turn Lycanroc-Midnight into Rampardos with an extra dark-type

their base stat totals and their distributions are both shit, neither of them hit hard enough and they're pitifully frail.
Rock type is terrible so they'll always be bad, but better stats would at least give them some function

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 07:48:39 No.32750470 Report

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>>32747356
Intimidate Abillitu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 12:49:14 No.32751276 Report

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Sundoggo is fine desu. Only reason it has trouble is priority cancer everywhere

Nightwolf needs like one move it can abuse No Guard with tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 12:53:28 No.32751299 Report

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>>32747356
They don't need to be rescued. It's where they belong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 18:36:11 No.32753399 Report

Quoted By: >>32753438 >>32753479

Why is Rock such shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 18:40:55 No.32753438 Report

Quoted By: >>32753479

>>32753399
Because normal hasn't been a relevant attacking type since gen 1.
And its weakness to ground, water, steel and fighting are too big in comparison to it resisting fire, flying and poison.

And offensively, most rock types are slow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 18:43:05 No.32753454 Report

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>>32747356
Verlis gets Head Smash upon evolution.
I don't know if that would help, but it has a large rock spike on the front of its head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 18:45:44 No.32753479 Report

Quoted By: >>32753512

>>32753399
What >>32753438 said, plus there's fewer Rock moves than any other type and they tend to have higher miss rates than similarly powered moves of other types. Stone Edge is unreliable and there's no accurate alternative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 18:50:10 No.32753512 Report

Quoted By: >>32753709

>>32753479
Dragon actually has the fewest moves of any type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 19:08:27 No.32753627 Report

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>>32747408
I see nothing wrong with this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 19:22:33 No.32753709 Report

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>>32753512
Still? I mean I know Rock and Dragon were 17th and 18th in terms of most moves last gen, but there was like a 1-2 move difference and Gen VII introduced three Dragon moves to Rock's one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 19:28:25 No.32753738 Report

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>>32747359
HAHHAHAHAH

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