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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 14:42:17 No.32751945 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32752040 >>32752247 >>32752539 >>32753050

OK, I had the liberty of see the tier list that all staters are right now (including Megas and Ash-Greninja). Here is the list:

RU Venusaur
PU Meganium
PU Sceptile
PU Torterra
BL Serperior
RU Chesnaught
UU Decidueye
OU Mega Venusaur
UU Mega Sceptile

PU Charizard
PU Typhlosion
Uber Blaziken
UU Infernape
NU Emboar
NU Delphox
PU Incineroar
OU Mega Charizard X
OU Mega Charizard Y
Uber Mega Blaziken

RU Blastoise
RU Feraligator
UU Swampert
UU Empoleon
PU Samurott
OU Greninja
UU Primarina
UU Mega Blastoise
UU Mega Swampert
OU Ash-Greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 14:44:08 No.32751954 Report

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Were you hoping to make a point with this?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 14:52:32 No.32752015 Report

Quoted By: >>32752024

So Grass types suck, Fire sucks without Megas and Blaziken, and Water is great no matter what.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 14:53:39 No.32752024 Report

Quoted By: >>32752290

>>32752015
>Water is great no matter what
>still no shell smash

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 14:55:38 No.32752040 Report

Quoted By: >>32752058

>>32751945
>consistently been good for 20 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 14:57:10 No.32752054 Report

Quoted By: >>32752075 >>32752226 >>32752247 >>32752296 >>32752565

Let's do Battlespot:

#2 - Charizard
#7 - Blaziken
#13 - Greninja
#21 - Primarina
#27 - Venusaur
#34 - Serperior
#54 - Swampert
#78 - Blastoise
#109 - Infernape
#115 - Sceptile
#133 - Decidueye
#136 - Empoleon
#164 - Delphox
#178 - Incineroar
#205 - Feraligatr
#210 - Typhlosion
#211 - Chesnaught
#227 - Torterra
#297 - Meganium
#327 - Emboar
#340 - Samurott

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 14:57:30 No.32752058 Report

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>>32752040
Venusaur alone gives me great nostalgia for the older anime just because of the highlights on its body

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 14:59:25 No.32752075 Report

Quoted By: >>32752116

>>32752054
Now do Battle spot doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:00:19 No.32752081 Report

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Everyone already knows this. Water starters are the most balance, Fire is only good because of mega which is gimmicky, grass can't do much because it's not a good offensive typing, which is why bulky mega venusar is run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:05:49 No.32752116 Report

Quoted By: >>32752247 >>32752296 >>32752333

>>32752075

#5 - Charizard
#34 - Greninja
#36 - Venusaur
#42 - Swampert
#46 - Blastoise
#53 - Blaziken
#70 - Primarina
#74 - Incineroar
#78 - Infernape
#79 - Sceptile
#94 - Serperior
#97 - Typhlosion
#137 - Empoleon
#162 - Delphox
#191 - Decidueye
#267 - Torterra
#275 - Samurott
#286 - Feraligatr
#317 - Chesnaught
#349 - Meganium
#372 - Emboar

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:12:53 No.32752159 Report

Quoted By: >>32752253

You should probably wait until after USM/USUM, the meta is still a little hectic and unstable.
Plus, Alola starters are still missing HA and move tutor which is a big thing, there's Ash-Greninja and it's move tutor moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:26:33 No.32752226 Report

Quoted By: >>32752234

>>32752054
Is this from after the Hoenn starters' megastones were released? Mega Scept is doing worse than I expected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:28:06 No.32752234 Report

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>>32752226
Yep

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:31:10 No.32752247 Report

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>>32751945
>>32752054
>>32752116
>the best starter of its generation continues to be the best of its typing
Where are my Venusaur bros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:32:36 No.32752253 Report

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>>32752159
>You should probably wait until after USM/USUM
As it they'll add anything.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:40:06 No.32752290 Report

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>>32752024
Something tells me they regret making Samurott. I can understand it was the result of artist block, but could they at least throw it a bone? It feels bad that it tarnishes an otherwise soild record of water starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:40:33 No.32752296 Report

Quoted By: >>32752329 >>32752334 >>32752357 >>32754901

>>32752054
>>32752116
>Zard
Fuck you. Fuck you so fucking hard. It's only there because of two Megas. Otherwise, it's a shit fucking Pokemon. So fuck you, you little fucking princess and every single fucker that likes you. Fuck all of you. Blaziken deserves first. Greninja deserves first. Venusaur deserves first most of all. But no, the fucking snowflake with two megas get the first all the fucking time. Fuck it all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:45:51 No.32752329 Report

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>>32752296
Are you okay anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:46:33 No.32752333 Report

Quoted By: >>32752344

>>32752116
>Incineroar that high
y tho

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:46:39 No.32752334 Report

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>>32752296
>being this mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:48:50 No.32752344 Report

Quoted By: >>32752404

>>32752333
Incineroar's better in doubles. Primarina being higher in that same format confuses me though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:51:33 No.32752357 Report

Quoted By: >>32754901

>>32752296
>It's only there because of two Megas. Otherwise, it's a shit fucking Pokemon.
I mean, you can say that for all of them. Blaziken is only Uber because of its HA, otherwise it's an average Pokemon. Same for Greninja, which might be a shit Pokemon. And same for Vanisher.
The reason Zard is more shit than them is because it didn't get a good HA like all of those, and because it had SR fucking it up. Imagine, a world where SR is replaced with a move that damages Water-type on entry and Greninja had Magician for HA. It would be shit. Now imagine, a world with a Drought Zard, with no SR. And a world where Sunlight was actually more useful. See? If there's anyone getting unfair treatment, it's Zard. The only good thing to ever happen to it was getting two Megas. And after being fucked in the ass for so long by getting the shittiest treatment, yet having fans who didn't give up on it, I'd say it deserved it.

So calm down, anon. Please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 15:59:14 No.32752404 Report

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>>32752344
It's quite mediocre without intimidate and it's missing key moves, hopefully from move tutor.
While Primarina (and Decidueye for that matter) are pretty much set from the get go, their HAs are only useful for gimmicks, and move tutor can't expand much on their already perfect movesets (maybe give Decidueye a fighting type move), so basically they can't get any better than they already are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 16:28:37 No.32752539 Report

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>>32751945
mons that might be banned/rise at some point this gen:
sceptile -> NU/BL4/3
serperior -> OU
typhlosion -> NU/BL4
delphox -> NU/BL4
shit, I think that's it
kind of sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 16:34:53 No.32752565 Report

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>>32752054
>Primarina 4th out of all starters despite useless abilities and no mega
Maybe GF was right to gimp its ability and movepool a bit.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 17:49:24 No.32753050 Report

Quoted By: >>32753145

>>32751945
Now that Meganium has a lot of friends in PU, including arguably the most popular starter Charizard, is it now no longer considered the worst starter ever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 18:00:18 No.32753145 Report

Quoted By: >>32753457

>>32753050
Mega venusaur is OU just like lando t. Do you think venu is as good or better than lando t?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 18:43:23 No.32753457 Report

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>>32753145
No but at least Meganium won't be the poster child for worst starter competitively. :^(

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 22:03:19 No.32754901 Report

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>>32752357
This.

>>32752296
>Muah Muah a pokémon I don't like is popular and used a lot
Kys faggot. What a fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 23:23:02 No.32755528 Report

Quoted By: >>32755536 >>32755549

Is speed boost blaziken still that broken?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 23:23:58 No.32755536 Report

Quoted By: >>32755549

>>32755528
It isn't broken on Battle Spot, but still really good.
It's Ubers on Showdown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2017 23:24:51 No.32755549 Report

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>>32755528
yes.
>>32755536
battlsespot is basically 3v3 Ubers without the box legends

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