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>>32775304
The problem is this isn't how Gamefreak rolls and we all know it. The Switch won't even use half of it's potential until the remakes/second set of games come out for the system.

We'll be getting 3DS assets in a non shit resolution and while it will look better, not look amazing.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 05:56:41 No.32775330 Report

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>>32775325
Oh yeah, for sure. GameFreak won't be able to manage it at first. My point was the Switch could definitely handle it.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 05:57:35 No.32775334 Report

Quoted By: >>32775359

>>32775304
There aren't, but okay.

The game will also likely continue the 3DS visual direction of trying to emulate the official artwork, since the hardware is actually capable of improving that style a lot. Possibly not, though, a lot of people want the plastic meme.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 05:58:25 No.32775339 Report

Quoted By: >>32775359

>>32775330
The 3DS could actually do a little better than Sun/Moon as well, though admittedly not by an amazing amount, but that didn't really stop them from being lazy.

Like I get it, HD pokemon on a dedicated home console, but holy shit they're getting their expectations far too high.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:01:40 No.32775356 Report

Quoted By: >>32775374

We're getting the same models as in Gen VI, Gen VII, and GO. But their resolution will be equal to or greater than GO's models.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:02:08 No.32775359 Report

Quoted By: >>32775372

>>32775334
Haha, I too know that Mario Kart, Fire Emblem Warriors, and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 have had no footage shown on Switch whatsoever!
That'll probably be the overall direction, but they will definitely move to higher quality models (like the one shown in the picture) eventually.
>>32775339
Yeah, there's no way it'll look as amazing as some people expect. I'm just expecting Sun/Moon stuff in HD, preferably with a stable 60 fps docked and undocked.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:05:09 No.32775372 Report

Quoted By: >>32776242

>>32775359
None of those games have models as high of quality as that in the OP. I bet you believe the PS2 had games that looked as good as Toy Story, too.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:05:40 No.32775373 Report

Quoted By: >>32775378

>>32775279
Probably not, i mean do you really expect every pokemon to have their own model and animation?

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:05:54 No.32775374 Report

Quoted By: >>32775375

They already look like that, you just don't notice due to the shit resolution, lighting, and textures.

>>32775356
There's no such thing as "model resolution". You mean the screen resolutikon

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:06:40 No.32775375 Report

Quoted By: >>32775480

>>32775374
>There's no such thing as "model resolution"

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:07:30 No.32775378 Report

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>>32775373
They already do. The only change is the lighting

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:08:44 No.32775382 Report

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ITT: People who don't understand how models, graphics, or anything even remotely related to 3D works.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:24:38 No.32775444 Report

Quoted By: >>32775480

The fact that we know GF will not tap into the potential of the Switch's graphics pisses me off

I just want a core Pokémon game with really good graphics

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:34:02 No.32775470 Report

Quoted By: >>32775505

>>32775296
If you think Breath of the Wild is the extent of the hardware, you're sadly mistaken.

If we can get a game like Battle Revolution running on fucking Wii then there shouldn't be any problem getting OP's image to work.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:37:17 No.32775480 Report

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>>32775375
He's right though.

You can increase or decrease polygon counts, but what makes or breaks how a model looks are the textures and shaders.

>>32775444
They really don't have to do much. If the game is just Gen VII styled environments with more detail while everyone is Gen VI battle model quality, their work is good as done

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:43:22 No.32775497 Report

Quoted By: >>32775505 >>32775506

The models in XY and SM have very high polygon count, that's why they look so good at higher resolutions in emulators and run so bad on a console that can't render them well enough to maintain a stable framerate.
We'll be stuck with these for a long time.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:45:37 No.32775505 Report

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>>32775470
What the hardware can do isn't relevant.
What the hardware can do for Pokemon is slightly more.
The topic of the day? What the hardware will do for pokemon.

>>32775497
Yes.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 06:45:51 No.32775506 Report

Quoted By: >>32775617

>>32775306
>>32775497
These guys got it.

I would suspect the first games on the Switch, probably gen 8's first games, will basically look like what SM does on an emulator, maybe with improved textures.

Which is also why, even considering Gamefreak's gross incompetence, I still suspect the framerate will be stable.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 07:10:51 No.32775617 Report

Quoted By: >>32776254

>>32775506
>>32775306
3DS can handle between 7 and 15 million polygons per second max.

PSVita maxes out at 133 million and is built on archetecture that the Tegra X1 exceeds 2-3 generations.

Tegra X1's geometry is supposed to be reasonable high for a mobile chip. Anywhere between 300 million and roughly 1.7 billion polygons per second. This is a demo running on a SoC that's almost evenly matched with the Tegra X1 just to give an idea of what the system can do on a good day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq9FcOEI4M8

It's fair to say Switch isn't going to struggle as much with the amount of Pokemon models on screen.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 07:16:49 No.32775636 Report

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>>32775311
Too realistic. I prefer the pic i posted in the OP because it is clean .

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 08:23:41 No.32775838 Report

Quoted By: >>32776538

why do people always point to stadium of what pokemon animations should look like over pokken

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 10:11:05 No.32776242 Report

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>>32775372
they literally do anon it's time to stop

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 10:12:52 No.32776254 Report

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>>32775617
THIS
anyone who really thinks the switch game is ACTUALLY going to lag is an utter moron

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 11:09:55 No.32776538 Report

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>>32775838
Because they're epic and funny and totally not out of place like dancing Rhydon and melting Jynx and certainly they don't make a battle last four time longer than it should hahaha

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 11:27:30 No.32776613 Report

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>>32775279
>still runs at 15 fps

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 12:41:39 No.32776829 Report

Quoted By: >>32777066

>>32775311
>>32775279
>mfw switchfags actually believe the pokemon switch game will fully utilize the hardware

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 12:44:41 No.32776837 Report

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>>32775279
It'll literally look like SM with minor tweaks.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 13:06:51 No.32776916 Report

Quoted By: >>32777080

People who thinks it's gonna be a huge jump not gonna hsppen.

I don't even think it's gonna be Pokken level. That's 21 Pokemon.

They have to animate 800 Pokemon + the new Pokemon in gen 8. Then all the 100s of moves etc.

The reason the pokemon have high number of polygons in 3ds games is because makes it future proof

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 13:15:16 No.32776943 Report

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pokemon battle revolution graphics were great, they should use those

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 13:52:16 No.32777066 Report

Quoted By: >>32777099

>>32776829
It doesn't matter if it fully utilizes the hardware or not. It won't take much of its power to be a major step up from the 3DS generation and people will eat that shit up.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 13:54:41 No.32777080 Report

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>>32776916
Most Pokemon move animation is a Pokemon making one out of several gestures that conjures the move animation/effect. The only exception to this would be signature moves.

They can easily recycle move animations and add or change some things.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 13:57:50 No.32777092 Report

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>>32775279
I unironically hope they just make a normal looking pokemon game with higher resolution assets and a third person camera

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 13:58:28 No.32777099 Report

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>>32777066
The move away from 240p and 5rps will be enough for alot people

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 13:59:06 No.32777103 Report

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Simply having Pokemon on a system that doesn't have shit tier resolution would make me pretty happy to be honest.

I think this is what they call Stockholm Syndrome.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jun 2017 19:09:14 No.32778922 Report

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>>32775279
Nope, the overworld will be better but the battle models will look the same yet.

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