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Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 19:10:22 No.32795625 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32796576 >>32796730 >>32796745 >>32796760 >>32796762 >>32796783 >>32796798 >>32796885 >>32796894 >>32796968 >>32800601 >>32800805 >>32800807 >>32801554

Best case scenario:
>Story thats balls to the wall compared to SuMo
>More Alola forms, Z moves, Megas, and Ultra Beasts
>Facilities that help you level up quickly like Blissey Bases
>A real postgame

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 19:12:58 No.32795643 Report

Quoted By: >>32800577

I think we're gonna get a game that has tons of features. Last games on 3ds I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 19:16:18 No.32795658 Report

Quoted By: >>32796753 >>32796772

just give me the goddamn gyms back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 21:39:39 No.32796576 Report

Quoted By: >>32797672 >>32797983

>>32795625
>wanting more Z moves

They're terrible though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:08:29 No.32796730 Report

Quoted By: >>32796890 >>32796912

>>32795625
How good is Popplio line? I kinda want to get it, because I fucking adore Popplio. But Tiger Mask is the best starter. Also if Lillie becomes the Rival my Autism thinks that she should get popplio line.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:11:53 No.32796745 Report

Quoted By: >>32800562

>>32795625
>SuMo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:12:44 No.32796753 Report

Quoted By: >>32796774

>>32795658
this game is still set in Alola, their culture is all about trials, captains and kahunas.

At least they were kind enough to give you a Pokemon League.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:13:48 No.32796760 Report

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>>32795625
>wanting story and more ultra beasts
No, fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:14:23 No.32796762 Report

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>>32795625
Worst case scenario:
>We've already seen everything that's new in the game
>Yearly rereleases become a thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:15:16 No.32796772 Report

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>>32795658
This, desu. I've been wanting them to try and break free feom the established formula forever, but somehow they made it even worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:15:46 No.32796774 Report

Quoted By: >>32796794 >>32800610

>>32796753
It's obvious they're going to add gyms. Trials were a failed experiment, though to be fair they should have tried to make them different rather than 'come here and press A'

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:16:41 No.32796783 Report

Quoted By: >>32796814

>>32795625
>more Alola forms
>best case scenario
The best case scenario has Alola forms retconned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:18:14 No.32796794 Report

Quoted By: >>32796813

>>32796774
in which way is a gym different?
>come here and press a
>move cursor there and press a
>receive badge and press a

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:19:01 No.32796798 Report

Quoted By: >>32796822 >>32796831

>>32795625
>he wants new megas

megas were a shit concept and should be removed the franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:21:25 No.32796813 Report

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>>32796794
It was different because some of them had small puzzles and trainer battles are much better than beating a single wild pokemon. Also, Gym Leader fights can be challenging since they get to heal up their pokemom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:21:37 No.32796814 Report

Quoted By: >>32796854

>>32796783
How is it possible to not like alola forms holy fucking shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:22:27 No.32796822 Report

Quoted By: >>32796843

>>32796798
Careful with all that edge, you might cut yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:24:17 No.32796831 Report

Quoted By: >>32800745

>>32796798
Megas for fully evolved Pokemon and starters are fine, but giving pokemon like Sableye and other not fully evolved pokemon Megas instead of evolutions really rustles my jimmies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:25:12 No.32796836 Report

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I can see new Alola forms and possibly new Megas, but not new Ultra Beasts. Ultra Beasts are separate Pokemon altogether, complete with their own Pokedex number -- Alola forms and Megas are different forms of existing Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:25:54 No.32796843 Report

Quoted By: >>32796892

>>32796822
They are a shit concept and did nothing but fill the meta with unanswerable offensive threats. Same goes for Z-moves. They should've been done away with and replaced with proper evolutions.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:27:34 No.32796854 Report

Quoted By: >>32796878 >>32796922 >>32796924 >>32796979 >>32797997

>>32796814
Most people don't. It's just recolored pokemon from the first gen made to pander to the genwunners. They offer nothing new to the game. Their typing, abilities and stats should have been used on new fresh pokemon designs instead of the same old shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:29:47 No.32796878 Report

Quoted By: >>32796923

>>32796854
But anon, they will probably make "alola" variants of Pokemon from every gen in the future.

We have over 800 Pokemon by now, giving old pokemon new variants is a better option than inflating the Pokedex even more than it already is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:30:18 No.32796885 Report

Quoted By: >>32800778

>>32795625
These and
>SKIPPABLE CUTSCENES
Jesus fuck we get it you throw the ball at the Pokemon and you catch it holy shit.

Also do something to make the Tapus less broken. But seeing as this is GF, they'll probably do something fucking stupid like give Lele Earth Power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:31:15 No.32796890 Report

Quoted By: >>32796990

>>32796730
The best starter is Popplio. Water/Fairy is amazing defensive typing as well as offensive coverage. Shutting down Dragons, resisting Fighting and Dark, that's a shitload of priority moves you won't worry about.

Decidueye isn't bulky enough and is weak to Ghost/Dark in addition to all the grass weaknesses. Though Sword Danced Spirit Shackle is great.

Incineroar is slow and is outclassed by Arcanine and Mega-Houndoom and its modest bulk contradicts its speedy offensive typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:31:25 No.32796892 Report

Quoted By: >>32796921

>>32796843
>b-but muh meta
The meta needed to urgently be changed prior to gen 6 and megaevolutions greatly improved it. The solution to their OPness is not to remove them but to include more ways to counter them, that includes new original megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:31:53 No.32796894 Report

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>>32795625
there will be some new alolan forms for sure but your bro still won't get anything :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:34:18 No.32796912 Report

Quoted By: >>32796990

>>32796730
Competitively, Primarina > Decidueye > Incineroar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:35:36 No.32796921 Report

Quoted By: >>32796942

>>32796892
>The meta needed to urgently be changed prior to gen 6
>power creep is the only way to do this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:35:39 No.32796922 Report

Quoted By: >>32796933

>>32796854
>it's just recolored genwun
>the only actual recolors are Vulpix and Meowth, which still have little differences

lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:35:47 No.32796923 Report

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>>32796878
And why does the number of pokemon matter? I play new pokemon games for the new pokemon, not to see old pokemon recolored. Most people do so too. If we get over 1000 pokemon that is not a problem. Besides, Alola forms don't fix or change the old pokemon, An Alolan Vulpix is not the same as a regular Vulpix, so old Vulpix is not getting the spotlight again, Alolan Vulpix is. Alola forms don't change that old pokemon are forgotten and neglected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:35:49 No.32796924 Report

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>>32796854
Aren't only two or three Alola forms more viable than their regular forms?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:37:05 No.32796933 Report

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>>32796922
Right, because giving Diglett some hair is that much different from a recolor. Off yourself gamefreak cocksucker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:38:50 No.32796942 Report

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>>32796921
>things that were never said: the post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:43:57 No.32796968 Report

Quoted By: >>32796989 >>32796991

>>32795625
new alola forms are confirmed at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:45:28 No.32796979 Report

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>>32796854
You aren't most people anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:47:30 No.32796989 Report

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>>32796968
Not that I disagree, I definitely feel like there's going to be new Alola forms, but where was this confirmed? Don't use the movie hat Pikachu as your confirmation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:47:35 No.32796990 Report

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>>32796890
>>32796912

But doesn't get the game too easy? I know I know muh child rpg.

But sun was fucking hard thanks to having some disadvantages.

I meant more like is it fun and can you do a good team? Inceniroar is super bro type but I kinda wanna reverse it now.

Oh btw. Do you guys think mallow will again be moon exclusive or will they change that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:47:40 No.32796991 Report

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>>32796968
[citation needed]

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:50:52 No.32797007 Report

Quoted By: >>32797017 >>32797021 >>32798004

Somewhat related but why are people worried it won't be good? When has a third version ever been bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:52:17 No.32797017 Report

Quoted By: >>32800622 >>32800674

>>32797007
Because we didnt get good games since XY. Masuda and Ohmori are ruining everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Jun 2017 22:52:27 No.32797021 Report

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>>32797007
When has a remake ever been bad? That's right since the 6th gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 00:19:23 No.32797672 Report

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>>32796576
I hope that z-moves will not be in gen8.
please let this shit be gen7 exclusive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 01:05:22 No.32797983 Report

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>>32796576
I think they're still gonna add more Z-Moves like how OR/AS added more megas. It's mostly because of how Blazikenite was event-only in X/Y but was then more accessible in OR/AS, so I think we'll see something very similar with Snorlium Z (and possibly Mewnium Z, since I don't think you can transfer items via bank, or if you can make a Pokemon hold a Z-Crystal and then trade it).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 01:06:39 No.32797997 Report

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>>32796854
I do like the idea conceptually since it seems more like real-world evolution rather than Pokemon's version of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 01:07:40 No.32798004 Report

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>>32797007
Yellow and Crystal were pretty bad looking back on it as an adult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 09:33:12 No.32800562 Report

Quoted By: >>32800662

>>32796745
what do you think would happen if you googled "Pokemon S&M"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 09:37:41 No.32800577 Report

Quoted By: >>32800764

>>32795643
>I think we're gonna get a game that has tons of features. Last games on 3ds I think.

I think we wont. Its been only a year and SM felt unfinsihed and had very little content

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 09:46:54 No.32800601 Report

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>>32795625
Thwy will include more ridiculous Alola forms like garfield-persian, wig-dugtrio or long-neck exeggutor and people will be like "OMFG this is so much new content and these are super cool and creative!"

Dont expect actual content though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 09:50:59 No.32800610 Report

Quoted By: >>32800667

>>32796774
How were they a 'failed experiment'? Many people loved the trials. They had their flaws (particularly the last one, which was far too simple), but it's good that they're trying new things.

For one, the trial battles themselves had the potential to actually be challenging. Mimikyu and Lurantis paticularly. Even if you were carrying around a Pokémon that had super effective moves you weren't necessarily going to plow through the battle with that on your own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 09:55:01 No.32800622 Report

Quoted By: >>32800668

>>32797017
How can Masuda ruin anything when frlg, rs,dp and bw were fucking good games??

Also I personally loved SM, only oras was shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:06:50 No.32800662 Report

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>>32800562
probably some shitty 3dpd taserplay

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:09:09 No.32800667 Report

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>>32800610
>Even if you were carrying around a Pokémon that had super effective moves you weren't necessarily going to plow through the battle with that on your own.

I did

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:09:37 No.32800668 Report

Quoted By: >>32800754 >>32800788

>>32800622
ORAS is carried by its huge region and great music, SM is mostly known for its drawn out cutscenes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:13:02 No.32800674 Report

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>>32797017
>XY were good games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:32:21 No.32800745 Report

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>>32796831
Indeed. No Pokémon without two stages already should've gotten one.

Concept was fine, but they put it into action in a shitty way.

There should be more Megas though, they just need to make sure they don't ruin single stage species with them anymore (and preferably retcon those they did, but the other will do).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:35:38 No.32800754 Report

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>>32800668
>SM is mostly known for its drawn out cutscenes
Cutscenes are fine, even if long assuming it makes sense.

What doesn't make sense is forcing people they know damn well have been playing over 20 years to go through the most handholdingly long opening I'm aware of in a game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:38:23 No.32800764 Report

Quoted By: >>32800798 >>32800800 >>32800814

>>32800577
Not to mention we're butting up against technology limitations of the 3DS and space limitations of the 4GB card with it being unlikely they'll start producing 8GB ones at this point in the system's life for what would likely be only these games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:45:14 No.32800778 Report

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>>32796885
>they'll probably do something fucking stupid like give Lele Earth Power.

Considering the Tapus' species name is Land Spirit, that's not particularly stupid for any of them to learn, actually because like it or not it matches thematically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:48:45 No.32800788 Report

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>>32800668
>oras carried by its huge region
you mean streamlined oras right? Dude Gen 3 is one of my most loved Gens (thanks to nostalgia), and ORAS just completly streamlined the whole game.

>m-muh cutscenes
literally every pokemon game has cutscenes. ORAS is also full of them. E.g. catching cover legendary then having a 5 hour conversation until you can play again. SM made this right. It was much tighter, the only downsides: no skipping and to less which involves hau and gladio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:52:25 No.32800798 Report

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>>32800764
Yup. GF couldnt do properly developed region during the 2 year break between ORAS and SM

Its pretty obvious the new game will be tweaked here and there with few more extra gimmicks (new alola forms, z-moves and pokefinder spots) and slightly altered story.

If anyone's is expecting Platinum, BW2 or even Emerald they will be sorely disappointed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:53:35 No.32800800 Report

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>>32800764
whew anon, thank you. You literally crushed all my hopes of this beeing emerald or bw2 thank you.

If that is really the case then I won´t buy these games and just pirate it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:57:21 No.32800805 Report

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>>32795625
>Best case scenario
>More Z moves and megas

Just stop, please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:57:58 No.32800807 Report

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>>32795625

The real Best case scenario would be Game freak introducing more new Pokémon in future generations of Pokémon.

Everything else, don't really matter.
Only new Pokémon matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 10:59:27 No.32800814 Report

Quoted By: >>32800816

>>32800764
Then use the extra SD space like some other Nintendo games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 11:00:16 No.32800816 Report

Quoted By: >>32800822

>>32800814
What do you mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 11:01:52 No.32800822 Report

Quoted By: >>32800828

>>32800816
>Insert Cart
>Boot game
>Please wait while data is being downloaded

Literally every game does this now, with day one patches on top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 11:03:22 No.32800828 Report

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>>32800822
But I think GF is too conservative for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jun 2017 14:40:07 No.32801554 Report

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>>32795625
Like B2W2, as the last games on the 3DS I expect something special. A revisit to the region hasn't happened in 5 years and I trust them to at least treat it with the proper respect.

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