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>>32814071
yes.
>>32814028
it would suck.by arceus form standards anyways.
you can get a "close enough" effect just by running normal type and then you get to enjoy using a better item. It'd be better than ice or bug arceus for example, but that's not saying much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 02:19:15 No.32814088 Report

Quoted By: >>32814106 >>32814110

>>32814028
It would be one of the weaker forms. No weaknesses sounds nice, but it's not worth having no STAB or resists. Might be worth running for some very gimmicky stall sets, but otherwise he's better off just running as a Normal type if he wants to hit and get hit by most things for neutral damage.
It would probably be used for something like Rest/Toxic stall, or maybe a weird stat boosting set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 02:21:04 No.32814096 Report

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If it doesn't need an Item it definitely becomes an amazing stall wall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 02:22:23 No.32814106 Report

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>>32814088
Just imagine a ???um z set, no safe changes to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 02:22:42 No.32814110 Report

Quoted By: >>32814307

>>32814088
>>32814043
wouldn't judgement be stab?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 02:46:00 No.32814307 Report

Quoted By: >>32814364

>>32814110
Oh shit, you're right. That does change things a lot.
With a STAB 100 base power move coming off 120 Sp. Atk, ??? Arceus would be a god damned monster that nothing would really want to switch in on thanks to nothing in the game resisting it (and only one Pokemon being immune). Remember, Dragon was one of the best attacking types for a long time for a very similar reason. Probably becomes the best Arceus form, maybe even beating out Normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 02:54:46 No.32814364 Report

Quoted By: >>32817557 >>32817594 >>32818853

>>32814307
Scratch that, for sure beats out Normal Arceus.
Most viable ??? Arceus set probably becomes
>Calm Mind
>Judgement
>Recover
>Sub or Dark/Fire/Ghost/Rock/Flying coverage
or
>Rest
>Sleep Talk
>Calm Mind
>Judgment

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 13:00:07 No.32816840 Report

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Bump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 15:36:38 No.32817518 Report

Quoted By: >>32817594

What happens if it uses curse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 15:43:37 No.32817557 Report

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>>32814364
CM/Recover/Wisp/Judgement can be a thing. Protects it from both sides and you only worry about being toxicd

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Tue 20 Jun 2017 15:51:53 No.32817594 Report

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>>32814364
Recover/fresh > Resttalk

>>32817518
Nothing because Arceus doesn't learn Curse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 18:50:06 No.32818807 Report

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>>32814028
judgment is crazy good on this thing. you know how good zygarde is with Tarrows in OU? it'd be that in ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 18:58:51 No.32818853 Report

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>>32814364
Normal Arceus is amazing because of Extremespeed you pleb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 19:13:11 No.32818954 Report

Quoted By: >>32819105 >>32819370 >>32823971

>>32818853
I know you dumb kek.
Unresisted super strong STAB > STAB with decent power and priority
The difference is that only one has things that can switch in on it reasonably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 19:31:26 No.32819105 Report

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>>32818954
>STAB with decent power

Boy, stop

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 19:52:57 No.32819281 Report

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>>32814043
Perfect Defogger, I guess. Takes Arceus-Water's place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 20:04:52 No.32819370 Report

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>>32818954
Won't dethrone extreme speed arc

2 arc team go

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 20:27:51 No.32819518 Report

Quoted By: >>32820151 >>32823827

>>32814028
Assuming the ??? Plate is a thing, it'd be on par with Extreme Killer Arceus.
Now, let's take this one step beyond, what if ??? was a full type, what moves would be of that type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 22:19:19 No.32820151 Report

Quoted By: >>32820642 >>32820821

>>32819518
Bullshit gimmick moves like curse with diffferent effects depending on which type uses them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 23:30:00 No.32820642 Report

Quoted By: >>32820821 >>32822280

>>32820151
>tonnes of average moves like Bubble or Tickle, ones easily outclassed by others, turn out to have an additional ??? effect
>???-Arceus can run a seemingly useless moveset cause the moves now do completely different effects when used by it
>also means they can't be Mirror Move'd or reflected etc by other pokemon as they'd just become the regular crap moves

>"???-Arceus used Poison Powder - Toxic Spikes and Spikes were laid down!"
>"Espeon bounced it back - Espeon used Poison Powder!"

Its so crazy it might just work.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2017 23:52:10 No.32820821 Report

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>>32820642
>>32820151
Brilliant

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 03:02:10 No.32822280 Report

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>>32820642
>Tickle used by ??? Types paralyze the enemy and lowers Defense/Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 08:37:36 No.32823827 Report

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>>32819518
Curse
Hidden Power
Techno Blast
Judgement
Revelation Dance

You know, moves whose effect or type depends on the user's type.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 09:24:28 No.32823938 Report

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>>32814034
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Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 09:36:48 No.32823971 Report

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>>32818954
E-Killer was ranked higher than Mega Fug in AG you moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 09:39:19 No.32823983 Report

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>>32814028
It's not very effective against any type.

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