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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:30:16 No.32839057 View View Reply Original Report

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*blocks your path*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:31:39 No.32839071 Report

Quoted By: >>32839081 >>32839082 >>32839129 >>32839506 >>32843022

>>32839057
Could some one tell me why dugtrio is now stall?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:32:29 No.32839081 Report

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>>32839071
Arena Trap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:32:35 No.32839082 Report

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>>32839071

Arena Trap

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:36:34 No.32839129 Report

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>>32839071
>now
Were you not around for ORAS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:39:28 No.32839150 Report

Quoted By: >>32839464 >>32839644

>>32839057
I wanna try this sometime just to make some random faggots and assholes feel the salt I've been feeling everytime I encounter a mentally retarded autist using this team

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:39:50 No.32839154 Report

Quoted By: >>32841408 >>32841409

>>32839057
>turn 360 degrees
>walk away

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:52:46 No.32839264 Report

Quoted By: >>32839469

>Taunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 01:57:01 No.32839297 Report

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>>32839057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmysKMwWQYg

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:05:12 No.32839359 Report

Quoted By: >>32839420

The rise of trick room thanks to Magearna made me really appreciate this fucker

>+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Crabhammer vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Sableye-Mega: 364-429 (120.1 - 141.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 304-359 (100 - 118%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Crabhammer vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 335-395 (100.6 - 118.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 754-889 (107.2 - 126.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Crabhammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Clefable: 260-307 (65.9 - 77.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Dugtrio can be a problem if you couldn't get rocks up unless its ebin z-move and Aqua Jet blows it away. At least its not that hard to scare Sableye nowadays with Mawile and Magearna being in the game.

I love this retarded crab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:11:18 No.32839407 Report

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>>32839057
press x

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:12:48 No.32839420 Report

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>>32839359
We need more pokemon like this

120 attack with Adaptability seems kind of retarded until you factor in everything else

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:14:36 No.32839433 Report

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>>32839057
*slaps your ass*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:15:48 No.32839449 Report

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>>32839420
adaptability has always been a high attack thing though
one of the 2 original users was porygon-z with it's 135 base sp-atk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:17:29 No.32839464 Report

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>>32839150
>If ya can't beat em, join em.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:17:29 No.32839465 Report

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>>32839057
I feel like you only need either Chansey or Clefable, why not add baton pass staller and end it quick?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:17:46 No.32839468 Report

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>>32839057
i tried almost the same team with gliscor and suicune the last gen, most of my wins were early forfeits with zero damage. Pretty fun to use as in meme material, but it isn't amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:17:50 No.32839469 Report

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>>32839264
>magic bounce

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:18:28 No.32839474 Report

Quoted By: >>32844631

>>32839057
*presses Forfeit*

I'm not about to waste 10 days to play through one match

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:18:46 No.32839479 Report

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>>32839465
>baton pass
>OU
anon...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:20:42 No.32839491 Report

Quoted By: >>32839500

>>32839479
>OU
>OU only allows 1 baton passer
Smogonfag plz go

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:22:00 No.32839500 Report

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>>32839491
>OU
>allows 1 baton passer
anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:22:42 No.32839506 Report

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>>32839071
Dugtrio is on stall because it can take care of pretty much every wall breaker if Hazards aren't up on your side and if they aren't a flying type. So instead of having multiple sponges that do nothing else, Stall now just uses something that doesn't just soak up damage, but rather dishes out damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:42:08 No.32839644 Report

Quoted By: >>32839745

>>32839150
Use Gliscor. Specifically this:
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 12 Def / 196 SpD / 56 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Taunt
- Toxic
- Roost
- Earthquake
With something that can take Ice Memes and Quagsire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:55:36 No.32839745 Report

Quoted By: >>32839773 >>32840316 >>32840318

>>32839644
question, poison heal breloom could be viable too?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 02:56:49 No.32839751 Report

Quoted By: >>32840765

>>32839057

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 03:00:26 No.32839773 Report

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>>32839745
No taunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 04:15:59 No.32840316 Report

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>>32839745
In older gens as a niche, but not today with the standards for bulk and speed being way higher and Clefable (on stall) screwing Breloom over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 04:16:04 No.32840318 Report

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>>32839745
Breloom isn't very bulky in stats or typing, so no not really

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 04:51:28 No.32840586 Report

Quoted By: >>32840613 >>32840642 >>32841605

>>32839057

Somewhere before Sableye becoming OU, stall was fine. The game played like an RPG should. You had Sweepers/Wallbreakers Tanks/Walls and misc support in the form of Phazers and Annoyers. Now everything meta is a Wallbreaker plus some annoyers with 2 or 3 goto walls.

I think Gen 5 started the slippery slope. Cant put my finger on what exactly did it.

Also Klefki was a faggot too.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 04:56:14 No.32840613 Report

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>>32840586
>Cant put my finger on what exactly did it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 05:01:04 No.32840642 Report

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>>32840586
>Now everything meta is a Wallbreaker plus some annoyers with 2 or 3 goto walls
Your describing a balance team. Balance teams are pretty much dead in gen 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 05:18:22 No.32840765 Report

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>>32839751
Is Gengar supposed to beat Tox Dug and Sableye?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 05:28:04 No.32840820 Report

Quoted By: >>32841422 >>32841635

This is why I stopped playing Smogon rules. Stall always dominates. Haven't played it all since Gen 7 came out and I already know the top ranking players are using it. Just checked and I was right, player with the top GXE right now is Super big noob. A stall player

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-592809159

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 07:18:11 No.32841390 Report

Quoted By: >>32841404 >>32844907

Stall is more intelligent than HO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 07:24:27 No.32841404 Report

Quoted By: >>32841715

>>32841390
BO > balance > stall > HO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 07:25:52 No.32841408 Report

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>>32839154

>turns full HD
>moves forward

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 07:26:29 No.32841409 Report

Quoted By: >>32841462 >>32841611

>>32839154
If you turned 360 degrees, you'd be facing the same way, idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 07:29:57 No.32841417 Report

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>>32839057
*forfeits immediately*
Heh... not today kid...
Battle Factory best meta[/spoiler:lit]

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 07:33:06 No.32841422 Report

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>>32840820
To be fair. The guy he was fighting was pretty retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 07:45:14 No.32841462 Report

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>>32841409

it's a xbox 360 reference

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 08:18:55 No.32841605 Report

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>>32840586
Prankster is a degenerate ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 08:20:28 No.32841611 Report

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>>32841409
Every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 08:24:55 No.32841635 Report

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>>32840820
Who the hell keeps a Zapdos in on a Greninja? And more importantly, who runs Taunt on Greninja?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 08:49:15 No.32841715 Report

Quoted By: >>32841774

>>32841404
The hell is BO? Body odor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 09:05:16 No.32841766 Report

Quoted By: >>32841821

>>32839057
How dk you deal with stall teams? I want to play online but don't want to play 90 turn matches?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 09:07:53 No.32841774 Report

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>>32841715
bulky offensive

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 09:24:07 No.32841821 Report

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>>32841766
There's a lot of ways to break stall, but what it all boils down to is running powerful physical attackers with good coverage, hazard setters that can get past Sableye, and Taunt users/setup sweepers that can pressure the team. Alolan Marowak is one of the best stallbreakers seeing as how he already meets the first two criteria.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 14:14:21 No.32842844 Report

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Why is Clefable so perfect, /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 14:55:52 No.32843022 Report

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>>32839071
>now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 18:35:57 No.32844499 Report

Quoted By: >>32844878

What about Magearna? Remove Chansey and Magearna rapes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 18:52:21 No.32844631 Report

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>>32839474
>not looking for another match and taking the longest time possible to make a move on the stall game
The best way to do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 19:22:12 No.32844878 Report

Quoted By: >>32844891

>>32844499
>remove Chansey
That's the biggest issue, son.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 19:23:45 No.32844889 Report

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>>32839057
*unzips pants*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 19:23:58 No.32844891 Report

Quoted By: >>32844901

>>32844878
Screech + Groundium Z Duggy does the job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 19:25:19 No.32844901 Report

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>>32844891
*reveals shed shell*
HA! I tricked you. Maybe you should look closer next time to see that my Chansey was actually a Blissey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2017 19:26:10 No.32844907 Report

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>>32841390
I tried both and Stall is definitely the easier one.

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